From: Frater M.'. O.'. M.'. Area: Thelema To: Loki 28 Jan 95 03:25:04 Subject: LBRP UpdReq Re: RE: Radical Religious Right > Larry: Did you ever get a satisfactory answer about your question > concerning the LBRP? I.e., about the bit by AC about "standing at the > intersection of Samekh and Pe", etc. It somewhat annoys me that one of the > most basic rituals is still kinda confusing. > Pax, > db The conclusion that I came to was, essentially, that I was trying to jam too many maps into my mental glovebox at once; trying to arrange all the darned angels and archangels in their proper places became rather wearisome. :) As I recall, most of the difficulty I was having with the visualization, or rather geography (as it were), resolved itself when I "reversed" the Tree, or rather my perspective thereof. All the typical stuff 'bout "backing into the Tree" resolved it--i.e., realizing that the Tree, when mapped onto the human form, is mapped as if the person providing the platform (so to speak) were standing *facing* you, you flip it 'round when (as in the LBRP) *you* are the Tree. At that point, one can simultaneously be "at the corner of Samekh and Pe", :), and have Raphael before you, Gabriel behind you, Michael on your right, and Uriel on your left, and have them agree with their "proper" (ha!) Sephirotic arrangements. Clear as mud, eh? That's what you get with 3 hours of sleep.... Larry 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 4 Feb 95 10:55:56 Subject: Radical Religious Right Rec'd UpdReq -=> Tony Iannotti sent a message to Michelle Hass on 31 Jan 95 15:30:00 <=- -=> Re: Radical Religious Right <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. TI> ttettet ??? Do we count those as Teths or Tavs? Love is the law, love under will. - V - ... O heart that art girt about with the coils of the old serpent, 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Fir Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 12 Feb 95 09:38:48 Subject: MASTER OF TEMPLE UpdReq Hi Josh, > ... INRI: Isn't Norton Rex Incredible? Groan. I was talking with a GD friend the other night about stations beyond Tiphareth. They really don't believe that incarnate beings reach the farther stations. Interesting contrast to past discussions on this echo. A tad more conservative perhaps. Regards, Fir 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718