From: Ar Aakhu-t Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 30 Jul 94 04:23:00 Subject: William Bloom Rec'd UpdReq 93- TI> Thanks, Grendel had clued me into the name, but I did not TI> know that he had TI> written other books. Do you have a list or a sample? The only title I know offhand is "Angels, Fairies, and Devas", which was written after 'Sacred Magician'- interesting ideas on the subject, essentially being manifestations of the general field of life energy, whether as individual organisms or a whole ecosystem or whatever. He went on to be involved with the Findhorn project, as I recall. But he's got a number of others on metaphysical subjects- probably Grendel can fill in tyhe titles, since I know they've got several of them down at the shop. His novels I don't know much about, except that we had some of them in the English Lit section of the bookstore I worked at (Jocundry's in E.Lansing) and I was surprised to discover it was the same William Bloom. 93/93 /\ . . \./ \,/ -AR AAKHU-T X >< X /'\ /`\ bb125@scn.org \/ 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ar Aakhu-t Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 30 Jul 94 04:27:00 Subject: Bloom Rec'd UpdReq 93- TI> I got a copy of the earlier edition in '76 when I was in TI> London, and TI> had not thought of getting the newer edition, though thanks for TI> the info. TI> Is there anything added to it, other than the new preface or TI> frorward where TI> he explains his earlier use of the pseudonym? Yes! Only a few pages, but very important ones at the climax of the operation. Apparently earlier he was too fresh and raw from the experience to tell the whole story of what happened at the climax, what the entry was that he was so embarrassed as to have torn it out of his record and not includ4ed in the first edition. Then more details of what happened afterwards, how he got hepatitis and was in a near coma for 6 months. Next time you're at Weiser's take a look at the climax chapter. Pretty interesting. 93/93 ,-----. . . / H \ -Ar Aakhu-t | H | bb125@scn.org | H | \ ===^=== / `._____,' 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ar Aakhu-t Area: Thelema To: Keith Schurholz 30 Jul 94 04:40:02 Subject: Archives & History UpdReq 93- KS> We have also gotten a lot of info from "regular" Freemasons. Do KS> you have any KS> data on modern HBL survivors? There was an active HBL group in All we've uncovered is past history- earliest sites of HBL in the US and where their charter derives from, back to a couple of 'Masonic Templars' and 'Cathar Templars'. The speculation is that the first HBL initiate in the US was Ben Franklin, but without more evidence it's just conjecture. The reason I was asking is that we've been increasingly in contact with Freemasons in the area. I realize that some within the O.T.O. don't give a hott what the Masonsd or anyone else thinks of us, but I really feel that nothing but good can come from positive relations between our Orders. This leads, however, to pretty challenging questions about just what our relationship to Freemasonry is. Examining the history, it is not at all certain to me whether the charter from John Yarker was all that legitimate, or whether it did much good for the Order or our lineage. Again with the HBL lineage, which derives back to the French Rites and Cagliostro, who was viewed as doubtful himself. Now, all that comes from the usual sources of Masonic History (Mackey, etc) and is neccesarily pretty conservative. What I'm looking for is understanding of what we are in Masonic terms other than some kind of 'illegitimate' splinter. It seems pretty easy for a Freemason to examine our material, even the public stuff, say, in III:10, and conclude that we are a 'clandestine Lodge'. Now, that may natter to some Freemasons more than others. But the implication of that is some kind of illegitmacy or falseness, and I for one strongly feel there is much more than that to O.T.O. Good relations with the Masons is a good idea- we have much to learn from each other, and more than just the fact that Masonic Temples are great places for the Gnostic Mass! I'd really appreciate a copy of any research material you or others are willing to share. Thanks again! 93/93 /\ . . \./ \,/ -AR AAKHU-T X >< X /'\ /`\ bb125@scn.org \/ 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ar Aakhu-t Area: Thelema To: Christeos Pir 30 Jul 94 04:49:02 Subject: Magical Recordplayer UpdReq 93- CP> AA> A fine idea! Now, it seems like you could do this fairly CP> AA> easily with Hypercard, or under windows using Visual Basic CP> to write a CP> AA> front end and OLE with a WP, plus some kind of command CP> line or macro CP> Uh... obviously that's a generic "you"... Shoulda said 'we'- Me 'n God! No, I guess that's the same as 'I'... CP> LOL! Yeah, backup often, and print out hardcopies of the CP> really important CP> stuff. And keep ASCII copies as well, mebbe. I really like the Well, I'd say print it ALL out, because in some sense you can't tell exactly which parts are 'not valuable', certainly not at the time, I think. I'd rather have a complete set. For some time I've been keeping my record on individual sigantures, 8 1/2 x 14 pages folded in half in sets of 6 or 8 leaves. These I hole-punch and keep in a small ring binder with my schedule book etc. when I'm writing them, then replace with a fresh siugnature when full. I make sure each signature is clearly dated, and collect them in a pile to be bound, either by myself (though it's been a while since I've done any binding) or by a bookbinder I know- this is not a particularly expernsive proposition, by the way. But I do find I prefer to write at a keyboard, and do a much better job that way, so now I'm writing at the Mac and plan to print out in the form of similar signatures. One time I prefer handwritten entires, however, is when I'm taking notes while doing a magical operation of some kind, providing it's appropriate to be scribing during, as it sometimes is. CP> stuff. And keep ASCII copies as well, mebbe. I really like the CP> idea of CP> beautiful handwritten journals, but it never seems like mine CP> looks like CP> these gorgeous, colorfully illustrated, BOS-type ones other CP> people have. BOS= Book of Shadows, I get it. Yeah... but I bet most of the real thing aren't gorgeous either. I mean, how about those illustrations of spirits in Barrett's 'Magus'...? ,=====. -93/93 ===' _---_ . . ===<< () > -Ar Aakhu-t `---' /| bb125@scn.org `-' | 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ar Aakhu-t Area: Thelema To: Christeos Pir 30 Jul 94 04:53:04 Subject: Archives & History UpdReq 93- CP> Well, I've been reading "Holy Blood Holy Grail." Does that CP> count? CP> Actually, it's pretty funny... so full of swiss cheese CP> masquerading as CP> reporting, that it makes von Daaniken seem like the CP> Encylopaedia Britannica! Yeah... after HBHG, I STRONGLY recommend Eco's 'Foucault's Pendulum'. It's a rito. One bit I thought was particularly funny is when the main characters are writing their forged history and get stumped at one point, so they use random word generation to fabricate a historical link- their fabricated link is, in fact, the main premise of HBHG! Also don't miss the cameo mention of O.T.O.! 93/93 ,-----. . . / H \ -Ar Aakhu-t | H | bb125@scn.org | H | \ ===^=== / `._____,' 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ar Aakhu-t Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 30 Jul 94 04:55:04 Subject: Cinti UpdReq 93- You live near Cincinnatti, don't you? I'll be in town near the end of August- perhaps we could meet for coffee if you're able. 93/93 /\ . . \./ \,/ -AR AAKHU-T X >< X /'\ /`\ bb125@scn.org \/ 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Fir Area: Thelema To: Ar Aakhu-t 30 Jul 94 11:26:00 Subject: William Bloom UpdReq 93 Ar Aakhu-t, TI> Thanks, Grendel had clued me into the name, but I did not TI> know that he had TI> written other books. Do you have a list or a sample? AA> The only title I know offhand is "Angels, Fairies, and AA> Devas", which was written after 'Sacred Magician'- interesting Also listed in _The Sacred Magician_ are: Meditation in a Changing World Sacred Times The New Age The Seeker's Guide Doesn't speak to English lit. novels though. 93 93/93, Fir 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Grendel Grettisson Area: Thelema To: Ar Aakhu-t 30 Jul 94 17:25:00 Subject: William Bloom UpdReq > But he's got a number of others on metaphysical subjects- > probably Grendel can fill in tyhe titles, since I know they've got > several of them down at the shop. We do? Wassail, Grendel Grettisson Internet:mimir@io.com 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Thelema To: Julia Phillips 25 Jul 94 02:32:02 Subject: Leos?!? UpdReq pondering upon the musings of JULIA PHILLIPS JP>I bet you're a Capricorn. no. i'm just tired of all the leo's on this conference. there is one leo here that i'm not tired of. xan request pgp public key from jonathon jblake@heartland.bradley.edu * OLX 2.1 TD * Initiation?? But you haven't even jumped from the Tower 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 24 Jul 94 13:17:12 Subject: the key of it all UpdReq pondering upon the musings of JOSH NORTON JN> TI> -!---BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- JN>Hey Tony! PGP signatures aren't any good without a copy of your public JN>key. How do we know it's REALLY you putting up these messages? i guess i could also start signing my notes. here's my pgp 2.3a key. do you know where i can pgp 2.5? For those who live outside of the country that patents ideas --- ideas based on the fusion of gematria and factorization. ___--BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCNAiz2osEAAAEEAMgvRqBy2p/LYKwlQ3sALFdJAgcpFBWn3UDc1H16D2tZWByW l2s2sNv6vFpjqocgBN6QhYZqTIw7liELgX6/0xRselSjG8tswzgyDFoxkZAIW9CW plkTyPq9WNUWuMTqPGqsN51UNS11gzUsAg+2M38vNKDoSVQFpFijn5FFLFHRAAUR tEpqb25hdGhvbiBCbGFrZSA8PCBqYmxha2VAaGVhcnRsYW5kLmJyYWRsZXkuZWR1 IDo6ICBUaGUgVHVydGxlIFNoZWxsIEJCUyA+PrQOam9uYXRob24gYmxha2W0MUpv bmF0aG9uIEJsYWtlIDw8IGpibGFrZUBoZWFydGxhbmQuYnJhZGxleS5lZHUgPj4= =aL9y ___--END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- & for those that live within that country, where encryption is slated to be banned by 1996, if komrade billybob has his way. BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAi4tDhkAAAEEAMusjeIzEut80E3sgNND8sPawKpQfb6IG3z4NK35JRSw3+x8 cUzRz0vDMss1oyJOtsXr3VXYiKjJylfii9EnVcprnlBNrrlkLGtL0lAWBlTiaaWY AMIiTxn8hOUsp0aThtOPk32GadUku1O5iq45mEZCoY5mzTZ+uRsOK4e1v/cVAAUR tD9Kb25hdGhvbiBCbGFrZSA8PCBwaV9wc2lAbWNpbWFpbC5jb20gb3Igam9uYXRo b25ANjAuNDAwMC43LjAgPj4= =ETUw - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- xan request pgp public key from jonathon jblake@heartland.bradley.edu The Turtle Shell BBS +1-413-586-2413 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLjC0SxsOK4e1v/cVAQEpgAP+K8HmICPZyYeUCdq492Iigpk1RUp/A7RZ E77kOhshk6DB9UkHUNKuKsacPJsAGHNGmWsuBu0PwTIWySdS5qvd1823ZD/hvn4G QzOFC8zg9KLpqMHe4TGIdMMUuiQxTuAHkAY93bF5ahMZ150b3A9/a2nbAm/8JLy8 +4n0r48ftAs= =W5c8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- xan request pgp public key from jonathon jblake@heartland.bradley.edu * OLX 2.1 TD * Pour shame all over us; harden into a crust. - FNM 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 20 Jul 94 10:22:16 Subject: Bornless in the abrameli Rec'd UpdReq pondering upon the musings of TONY IANNOTTI TI> GG> William Bloom, _The Sacred Magician_ (which I am reading as we speak). TI> That's certainly the title. Thanks! Got a pubdate? I know I saw it show up The Sacred Magician: A Ceremonial Diary George Chevalieer St Albans UK, Paladin: 1967 << from my copy of it >> The 1990 edition by William Bloom is not listed in Books in Print, or at least the june 94 release. Nor is it in the 1994 Weiser Distribution Catalog. xan request pgp public key from jonathon jblake@heartland.bradley.edu * OLX 2.1 TD * Initiation?? But you haven't even jumped from the Tower 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 20 Jul 94 10:29:18 Subject: the key of it all Rec'd UpdReq pondering upon the musings of TONY IANNOTTI TI> So true. I'll try to post it. The last couple of times, though TI> pgpblue in it's infinite wisdom posted my secret key instead..... what is pgpblue? a signature verifier for bluewave? xan request pgp public key from jonathon jblake@heartland.bradley.edu * OLX 2.1 TD * Preaching to Hell's Angels. Pastor Redlight(1) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Thelema To: Julia Phillips 31 Jul 94 05:28:26 Subject: Web of Wyrd UpdReq pondering upon the musings of JULIA PHILLIPS JP>Can anyone who wants a copy, please either leave their JP>name/address in here, or send it PO Box A486 Sydney South send a copy for me to P O Box 31726 Seattle WA 98103 xan request pgp public key from jonathon jblake@heartland.bradley.edu =========================================================================== BBS: Mysteria Date: 07-27-94 (06:25) Number: 98 From: JULIA PHILLIPS Refer#: NONE To: ALL Recvd: NO Subj: Web of Wyrd Conf: (30) Thelema ___------------------------------------------------------------------------ JP>Greetings All! JP>The Web of Wyrd with the "Sexism/OTO" thread is now ready for posting :) JP>Can anyone who wants a copy, please either leave their JP>name/address in here, or send it PO Box A486 Sydney South JP>NSW 2000 Australia. I have addresses for Kevin, Rose, Fir, JP>Christeos/Alma and Rose (from memory!). JP>The article turned out pretty well (I think :) - JP>congratulations to all those who took part :) :) :) JP>B*B Julia JP>--- GoldED 2.42.G1114 JP> * Origin: Morning Star BBS +61-2-833-1848 (93:9004/1) * OLX 2.1 TD * Spcok, that man is a politician. Set phasers on KILL. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718