From: Crat Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 13 Jul 92 07:13:00 Subject: Re: Lucifer myths UpdReq JN>Since the "Gaea" theorists first pointed it out, it has become fairly JN>obvious that the same principle extends through several stages to the JN>level where the whole planetary biosphere can be seen to act as an JN>individualized entity. You might want to read the works of Teilhard du Chandin (I hope I have the spelling right), the French RC philosopher who propounded that the earth and the humans upon it were evolving into a type of group or "meta" entity. In some circles he is seen as a father of the Gaeans. ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Crat Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 13 Jul 92 07:13:02 Subject: Re: POLITICAL STUPIDITY UpdReq JN>state, and a technological economy is simply not subject to JN>micro-management. Someone forgot to tell the US Congress. ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Vitriol Area: Thelema To: Steven Craig 15 Jul 92 07:15:06 Subject: Re: Creation/Destruction UpdReq -=> Steven Craig sent a message to Kreizenski on 07-14-92 12:15 <=- -=> Re: Creation/Destruction <=- SC> "A man who had studied much in the schools of wisdom SC> finally died in the fullness of time and found himself at SC> the gates of eternity. ...This sounds like a Nasrudin story. SC> God beheld the limitation and said "Not!") This was after talking to Bill and Ted? 418 * BWave/QWK v0.96 * Love is the law - don't make me call a cop! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Azoth Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 16 Jul 92 23:39:00 Subject: Mandrake Press UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. GD> I was wondering if you had the address of Teitan Press AND GD> Mandrake Press. I'm dying to get my hands on a catalog. :) I'm cross-posting my reply, since there may be some general Thelemic interest served by having these addresses listed all together: The Teitan Press, Inc. 339 W. Barry Ave., Suite 16B Chicago, Illinois 60657 USA .Thelema Publications PO Box 1393 Kings Beach, CA 95719 USA .93 Publishing Ltd JAF Box 7865 New York, NY 10116-4634 USA .Samuel Weiser, Inc. Box 612 York Beach, Maine 03910 USA .New Falcon Publications 7025 E. 1st Ave., Suite 5 Scottsdale, AZ 85251 USA .Temple Press Ltd & Mandrake Press Ltd are handled through: MANDRAKE Distribution PO Box 250 Oxford OX1 1AP (UK) .Gerald Duckworth & Co. Ltd The Old Piano Factory 43 Gloucester Crescent London NW1 7DY .Most books from the above publishers are available through Magickal Childe, Abyss, Serpent's Occult or Cursive Serpent Productions. BTW, Symmond's _Medusa's_Head_ from Mandrake (subtitled 'Conversations between Aleister Crowley and Adolf Hitler') is a scream, and lacks the acid idiocy of his _King_of_the_Shadow_Realm_ from Duckworth (which is still worth reading, just for the gory details after the period of the _Confessions_.) Do you by any chance have a mailing address for the Yogi Publication Society, other than just Chicago, Ill.? They've got AC's _Collected_Works_ and some of Achad's early stuff, and the _Suggestive_Inquiry_ and I'm wondering what else.... Love is the law, love under will. ___ X BABBLE v1.0 X There is no law beyond. Do what thou wilt. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Crat Area: Thelema To: Steven Craig 16 Jul 92 07:16:02 Subject: Symbols UpdReq SC> Another thing to take into consideration: someone made the point that any SC>sublime symbolic truth could be expressed in plain, SC>unambiguous language which anyone can understand. I do SC>not argue with this, but I think that such a process SC>inevitably waters down the idea to the point where it SC>loses all potency. A good example is to be found in zen I think it was Albert Einstein who argued that one did not truely understand a concept until one could explain it to a 4 year old. ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Gerald Del Campo Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 18 Jul 92 02:31:32 Subject: Re: POLITICAL stupidity UpdReq In a message dated 15 Jul 92 12:09:04, Josh Norton wrote: JN> Well, despite all my suggestions, I don't really have much confidence JN> in the elective process myself. After seeing the government from inside JN> for ten years, it became apparent to me that the actions of government JN> have very little relation to either legality or "the will of the people". JN> Most of the real power is held in places where its users are almost JN> totally immune from accountability. Elective procedures won't touch JN> them. In your opinion; what are the necessary steps The People must take to get control of a goverment which was inteded for them? Love is the Law. Gerald ... RPSTOVAL Oasis: Badges? We don't need no stinking badges! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tony Iannotti Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 18 Jun 92 22:48:48 Subject: Re: OTO or other Thelemic groups in the Seattle areaSent UpdReq TI> Test TI> --- Maximus 2.01wb TI> * Origin: BaphoNet-by-the-Sea: 718/499-9277 (0:0/0) TI> SEEN-BY: 0/0 TI> --- Maximus 2.01wb TI> * Origin: BaphoNet-by-the-Sea: 718/499-9277 (666:666/1) TI> SEEN-BY: 666/1 TI> --- Maximus 2.01wb TI> * Origin: BaphoNet-by-the-Sea: 718/499-9277 (666:666/1) TI> SEEN-BY: 666/1 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718