From: Gerald Del Campo Area: Thelema To: Mike Pfeiffer 6 Jun 92 23:11:18 Subject: Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS UpdReq In a message dated 04 Jun 92 20:33:52, Mike Pfeiffer wrote: MP> Perot? Hitler changed people's minds about 3rd party MP> candidates too. You are aware that good ol' Ross wants to cordon off MP> poor neighborhoods and conduct house to house, warrantless searches MP> for drugs (or people with a better tan than say, George Hamilton). MP> He gave money to the Contras, and thought using private money MP> to circumvent Congress was just fine (not that Congress is competent MP> to run a lemonade stand, let alone a totalitarian superpower. I was not aware of this. It seem's as though he is purposely keeping quiet about his views. However, about his drug policies: Bush wants to have special prison camps for drug offenders...in fact some are already being erected, so as to not further crowd the jails with drug users. Is this info about Perot published anywhere? As far as the Contras are concerned: The Reagan Regime also thought using private money to circumvent Congress was acceptable as well...and he was elected twice. Kinda makes you wonder. MP> He may succeed in buying the election... You may have something there. Who do YOU think is the best bet? Love is the Law. Gerald ... RPSTOVAL Oasis: Badges? We don't need no stinking badges! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Gerald Del Campo Area: Thelema To: Mike Pfeiffer 6 Jun 92 23:17:18 Subject: Re: DMT UpdReq In a message dated 04 Jun 92 20:38:59, Mike Pfeiffer wrote: MP> The brain manufactures it. We found this out after we had MP> synthesized it artificially. Actually, the breain produces several MP> psychedlic molecules. It seems reasonable to argue that drugs MP> couldn't function at all without analogous receptor sites. Never saw MP> a movie with DMT, though. If this is true about the receptor sites, then it should be possible to stimulate those sites without the use of drugs, no? Wouldn't THAT piss off the "just say no" regime ;) MP> The best case histories of its psychedelic use occur among MP> indians of the Amazon. There are vines high in Dimethytryptamine and MP> 5 methoxy-DMT that they've been turning into snuff and vile potions MP> for millenia. The Amazon...it figures. There is SOOOOOO much about the things that live there. There is a bettle, that when eaten can take you on a 3 or 4 day trip. MP> I recommend the Psychedelics Encyclopedia on this and all MP> related subjects. I forget the authors. Coolness. I'll check the local library. Thanks for the info! :) Love is the Law. Gerald ... RPSTOVAL Oasis: Badges? We don't need no stinking badges! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Michelle Hass Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 8 Jun 92 06:08:06 Subject: The Perot Factor UpdReq On 06-02-92 Gerald Del Campo wrote to Mike Pfeiffer... 93, Gerald! GD> Perot might just change public opinion about third party GD> members. Keep your fingers crossed ;) I dunno about Ross The Boss, though. He seems too much like the "Man On A White Horse" for me. Trying to be all things to all people, and occasionally letting some dangerous prejudice (Homophobia) through. I have some questions for the man that I think all thelemoids need to have answered before supporting him: 1.) Do you believe that Christian Morality should be the basis of US law? 2.) Does your assertion "what a person does in private is their own business." also apply to minority religions like Wicca, Santeria, Goddess Religion, Thelema (it isn't a religion but a guiding philosophy, but it should be protected like a religion) and also apply to Atheists, Agnostics and Humanists as well? 3.) Where do you stand on victimless crimes like "soft" drugs (Marijuana, mild hallucinogens like MDMA, etc.) gambling and prostitution? How much of a committment do you have to the 1st Amendment, especially when applied to so-called "porno- graphic" materials? 4.) Where do you stand on AIDS research? Health Care Access? Preventing discrimination against HIV+ people? His answers to these four questions would be telling. GD> Information could lead to independent thought. I don't see GD> the powers that be going out of their way to see that we GD> are proprerly informed. The joke in the whole thing is GD> that most people wouldn't believe the truth about GD> government if it jumped up and hit 'em in the face. It is GD> easier to be sheep. Sad, but true. I have always thought that Hadit was actually lamenting a bad situation when He said: "The Kings will be Kings forever; the slaves will serve." It is a lot easier to have de- cisions made for you rather than calling your own shots. That doesn't mean everyone else's freedom should be put in jeopardy because of the majority. Beauty and Balance, Will and Love The Happy Heretic 93/93 ... OFFLINE 1.35 * Ren & Stimpy! Ren & Stimpy! ALL HAIL! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Michelle Hass Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 8 Jun 92 06:08:08 Subject: L-Tryptophan UpdReq On 06-02-92 Gerald Del Campo wrote to Mike Pfeiffer... 93 again, Gerald! GD> Have you ever toyed around with L-triptophane? Neato thing GD> for lucid sleep experiments. Sadly L-Tryptophan got pulled permanently from most US markets because of the adulterated powder that killed some folks. Right about now the best stuff for this sort of purpose is Kava Kava... or Poindexter's (remember Felix The Cat shorts?) old standby, warm milk. Careful about the Kava Kava, however...an OD can cause liver damage. B&B, W&L... HL 703 93/93 ... OFFLINE 1.35 * Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Michelle Hass Area: Thelema To: Tau Ursa 8 Jun 92 06:08:10 Subject: Testing... 1... 2... 3.. Rec'd UpdReq On 06-04-92 Tau Ursa wrote to Frater Almost... 93 TU> How do you find out whether a sex partner is ticklish or not? You tickle them, silly! Just Do It... 93/93 HL 703 ... OFFLINE 1.35 * Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Farrell McGovern Area: Thelema To: Mike Pfeiffer 8 Jun 92 00:24:02 Subject: Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS UpdReq In a lo-rez cyberspace object, Mike Pfeiffer @1:103/175 texuralized the following thoughts onto the reality grid of my fav VR co-ordinates: MP> So, I am not alone. This is a good thing. Our other MP> weapon is knowledge of how the brainwashing works. If we can MP> teach people to see when and how they're being programmed, MP> perhaps they can learn to program themselves. Paradox and MP> nonlinear relationships would seem to be the key to this. Any MP> thoughts in this vein? -!- TBBS v2.1/NM A great source of information on this are books on NLP, and the works of Robert Anton Wilson. As well, a healthy doze of Dr. Keys' _Subliminal Seduction_ and the followup books is in order. Taken has a group, it is both a profoundly scarry and profoundly interesting field! ttyl Farrell 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Mike Pfeiffer Area: Thelema To: Fra.: Nachash 8 Jun 92 20:27:40 Subject: Re: DMT UpdReq Thanks! I will look into it. Don't know nothin' 'bout no Magick Plants echo. Tell me more... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Mike Pfeiffer Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 8 Jun 92 20:40:02 Subject: Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS UpdReq My solution? In order of preference: 1) Anarchist Utopia where everyone is cool to everyone else when at all possible, and never needlessly cruel. 2) A totalitarian police state run by my benevolent self. 3) Thermonuclear obliteration of all life on the planet except for my slaves, er dupes, er close personal friends... I think evolution will out, but if we do this right we could shave a good fifty million years off the learning curve. There will come a point in each of us when death is preferable to slavery. Let us hope we do simultaneously and in vast numbers... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Mike Pfeiffer Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 8 Jun 92 20:46:48 Subject: Re: DMT UpdReq Betel. Grows in India & Pakistan. tastes like shit & not really psychedelic. Almost as bad as Kava Kava but at least the dosage is smaller. Yes, I think you can learn to do it without drugs. Yogis have a higher concentration of certain psychedelics (10 methoxy harmalan, I think) in their pineal glands than control groups, as I recall. All this is probably tied in with sex and pleasure and programming and ... information ... That's why ideas get shit on, my man - they change consciousness. You see a pretty woman, light on your retina, which squirts hormones that make your dick hard. Information transcends neurochemistry... As for Perot: the drug camps are already operating in Maryland, It was Perot's money they were thinking about using, and it may be written down or not. Some I heard over alternative media airwaves (KPFK - Pacifica public radio), and some I got from Tom Tetzlaff, and he only ever says true things... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Almost Area: Thelema To: Frater Nachash 10 Jun 92 01:32:06 Subject: HOLINESS FROM THE LORD UpdReq Hagios Dio.... Hagios Iommi.... Hagios Appice.... AUMGN! AUMGN! AUMGN! The New Black Sabbath Album with the 1983 Lineup of players is coming out on or about the Solstice..... It sounds absolutely GREAT! It's called "Dehumanizer" and is going to make all of the GNR / METALLICA / DEF LEPARD crap look like the trash that it is......... Watch out! ;) Pax! 93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: James Heaton Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 10 Jun 92 02:25:02 Subject: Introduction etc. UpdReq > My interests are mainly in Crowley's system. Why? > because it works for me. I tried somoe of the GD stuff, > but it was rather mild...didn't like being picemealed :) >> I also have experimented with Enochian, but found it just > like any other magical system; so I stick with the > Qabalistic approach. My main interest nowadays is Tantra -- Tibetan style. Basically mind magic. No ritual, no mess, no fuss -- but a HELLof a lot of visualization work and single pointed concentration! I finally figured out the Quabbala was great in certain circumstances, but I don't like the complex ritual that's involved -- ESPECIALLY not when I can do the same thing without!! 93 James 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tony Iannotti Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 10 Jun 92 08:43:00 Subject: Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS Sent UpdReq -=In a missive of Sat 6 Jun 92 23:11, Gerald Del Campo said to Mike Pfeiffer=- (regarding Re: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS) GDC> In a message dated 04 Jun 92 20:33:52, Mike Pfeiffer wrote: MP> Perot? Hitler changed people's minds about 3rd party MP> candidates too. You are aware that good ol' Ross wants to cordon off MP> poor neighborhoods and conduct house to house, warrantless searches GDC> I was not aware of this. It seem's as though he is purposely keeping GDC> quiet about his views. However, about his drug policies: Bush wants GDC> users. Is this info about Perot published anywhere? GDC> As far as the Contras are concerned: The Reagan Regime also thought MP> He may succeed in buying the election... GDC> You may have something there. Who do YOU think is the best bet? I think this is getting a bit far afield of Political Correctness, and certainly off-topic for Thelema, unless you can tie it back in some how. Thanks! Da Moderator ... When Privacy Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Guns. WPIOOOWHG! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tau Ursa Area: Thelema To: Michelle Hass 10 Jun 92 21:45:38 Subject: Testing... 1... 2... 3.. You are correct. You tickle them silly! I do it with a feather. It's ducky! Tau 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718