From: Jon B Area: Thelema To: All 4 Apr 92 21:13:26 Subject: LIBER AL UpdReq 93 i am going to be sharing some of my thoughts etc on modem magick conferance room will be oasis april 8 << and 9 th if i have anything further that is worthwhile saying at 8 pacific time 9 mt 10 ct 11 et midnight atlantic time topic is obviously liber al preference given to chapter 1 93 jonathon modem magick # is 619-447-5010 pc pursuitable: c d/casdi/ atdt4475010 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Olorin Area: Thelema To: Adrian Greene 24 Feb 92 20:29:00 Subject: OTO UpdReq AG> It is pure rubbish to think that sports are an outlet for the AG>warlike tendencies in man. But rather, that they nourish war-like AG>attitudes in the young and keep a mind-set present in the populace, AG>suitable for a solider. AG> The military finds it highly desireable to have racial tension AG>within thier ranks. They passively encourage it. So does the Oval I will appologise for the flame session in advance as I agree it is counter productive, but.. FLAME ON...I can't speak for the Oval office but you obviously don't know how serious an offence it is under the UCMJ to so much as display any predjudice against anyone...I will pass it as coming from someone who knows little or nothing about the military after 1983.. I was there and some time before that and am still in. We HAMMER anyone who encourages racism or sexual discrimination.. throw them out on their collective ear on the first incident as we do with drug offenders and drunk drivers, spouse abusers of both genders. That is fact as I have done it! They only have one bugaboo left they still discriminate against Gays but that will change too. They are miles beyond even the most liberal businesses as we can enforce the rules. Law not whim in the military applies to all, and the exceptions are much fewer than I have seen in more liberally acceptable circles...flame off. Sorry but it hits a bit close when I spent all my adult life enforceing rules like that and going to bat for people who deserved it to have an obvious civilian accuse me of the opposite, Sorry I took it so personally ...I'll get over it. Peace. answer if you must and I will listen..honest..I'm OK now (GRRR) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Olorin Area: Thelema To: Merlin 30 Mar 92 17:44:00 Subject: nature of reality UpdReq ME>I also believe that there is order to chaos, as scientificaly proven, and at ME>the very of true order is utter chaos. What's difficult to express is the ME>harmony and the beauty whithin that balance. Reality is in the perceptions ME>that and the countless other harmonies which underpine the truths by which w ME>live. You mean like opposites generate out of each other and form a continuous circle as you approach the absolute end of evil it becomes the seed of the good? Yin and Yang?? wow what a concept even for being 5-6 thousand years manifest....yes just a little jib by way of agreement, I must find a way of amputating that Taoist half of mine...any suggestions (uproarous laughter and tearsof recognition):*) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Olorin Area: Thelema To: Merlin 30 Mar 92 17:44:00 Subject: will UpdReq ME>The force of will, my friend, is one's ability to focus our perceptions. ME>This ability is whithin us all and with it we are able to literaly create ou ME>own realities. Therefore, we are all equally empowered with this ability. When your reality colides with mine who wins? there are limmits to the concept of creation...at some level there must be coordination and aggreement...even for pagans agreement aludes us...interesting when you take it out of context ...cheers PAX CELTOI.. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718