From: Tim Maroney Area: Thelema To: Gerald Del Campo 26 Mar 92 11:34:20 Subject: RE: Re: GOLDEN DAWN UpdReq It looks as if I could start a thriving business selling cheesecake photos of myself to occult electron-heads through the mail! Perhaps I should arrange for a GIF to be made available.... (But I'd probably have to hire a staff to cope with the marriage proposals.) (NOT!) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Steven Craig Area: Thelema To: Mark Newcomb 28 Mar 92 02:06:42 Subject: Re: Law UpdReq My view of the law Of Thelema is that it is an intensely personal thing;you comment that understanding the law lies in understanding the "governing forces" of Heru-Ra-Ha, wherein I think that Horus, while a useful symbol for Where We Are At, doesn't necessarily need to fit at the center of every Thelemite's sphere of experience. While I think Liber Al, and Crowley's ideas about Thelema, makes great source material, I do not see it as gospel in any sense other than that it should be respected in its original form; a courtesy I extend to any piece of writing. Also, you claim that Thelema is in no real danger of dogmatism because of the many strong-willed people in the movement; I don't see a correllation. I can easily see someone being both strong willed and dogmatic. 93 93/93, Steve Io 46! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Anthra Andromda Area: Thelema To: Steven Craig 27 Mar 92 14:13:00 Subject: Law UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. In your message to me you stated: SC>: What???? Are you accusing some Thelemites of being SC>: snotty anal-retentive nitpickers? I've had it up to here SC>: with you and Frater Achad and all the rest of ya dirty SC>: little heretics! :-) Hell yes! And, ME too. We all have our moments. SC>: Seriously, I can see the validity of capitalizing "Law", SC>: but I think that espousing that as the most important SC>: tenet of Thelema is a good sign that the person in SC>: question is rather missing the point of it all. I think SC>: that the distinction is an important one to see, but the SC>: central message of the statement is more important by far. I agree, there are laws and Laws. Yet there are some who would let a simple thing as the slip of a finger, or the 'case' value of a letter deter them in their path. They are hindered from learning. In doing so they dishonor not only the writer, but themselves too (and this is the real tragedy). The point here is the technical points of typography are of far less importance than Truth behind these sublime teachings. SC>: If it be my will to capitalize every frigging letter in SC>: the whole book _except_ that l, then that's my will, and SC>: that's just what I'm going to do (so long as I make it SC>: clear that it is my version, rather than the original). SC>: The thing I really like about Thelema is that it SC>: understands the need for each individual to have a unique SC>: path, and mandates this as the "one true faith". I think SC>: that when people start becoming that dogmatic about SC>: things, they invoke into play the comment about "centers SC>: of pestilence" (oops, was Pestilence supposed to be SC>: capitalized?) SC>: SC>: DO WHAT THOU WILT SHALL BE THE WHOLE OF THE lAW, SC>: Steve SC>: SC>: Io 46! Hear, hear!!! Love is the law, love under will. --Anthra-- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718