From: Adl Area: Base of Set To: Elemental 4 Dec 93 14:26:36 Subject: ToS UpdReq E> Hi Johnn, JP>To all members of T.O.S JP> JP>Do you feel you have to hide the fact that you believe JP>in Satanism? JP>i.e. are you forced to protect the nature of your chosen JP>worship from others? E> I am a very new member of ToS so there may be a bit of E> naivete in my answers. E> I have no problem being labeled Satanist, if you follow any E> path other than Christianity you have to expect to be E> regarded as a Satanist. E> Personally I don't call myself a Satanist and neither do E> any of my ToS friends. By describing yourself as a E> Satanist you also have to define the term as well - which E> is all but impossible because people already have their E> definition and usually won't be re-educated. The Satanic E> Bible has a perfectly good definition. E> I don't deny my religion but neither would I walk up to a E> stranger and volunteer the information - if someone walked E> up to you and stated "I am a Hindu" you would probably E> avoid that person thinking that they are probably a bore. JP>What do you think is a common aspect that leads people JP>to Temple of Set, or Satanism in general? E> Not a very well stated question. :-) E> 1/ I can't speak for anyone else. E> 2/ "Satanism in general". (loaded) E> The Temple works on two levels. E> The first is ethics and protocol. To be a member of the E> Temple you must have some basic social graces - these are E> to smooth your passage through life in society. To gain E> respect first you have to give respect and respect E> yourself. E> The Second is Spiritual. The Temple assists and encourages E> you to come into being totally. (Badly put, I will leave E> this up to people who are more erudite than myself.) Greetings, In the above you have mentioned that which struck a chord. "Protocol" was the term that you used ,as do I.It is considered a prime aspect of our traditions.I am curious as to what *specific* mannerisms and behaviours Setians,such sa yourself and associates/friends put in action to correspond with your protocol. Evolve and Become JP>(For the record)What is your opinion of the 'posers in JP>Satanism (the JP>heavy metal/teeny bopper types...the JP>hype) How do you protect your ranks within T.o.S. from JP>these people? E> By example. As I said above, the Temple expects a certain E> level of social grace. Simple things like politeness, E> please and thank you will automatically distance you from E> this element. JP>Have there been any scientific studies, that you know JP>of, of the magicks involved? E> This is not a direct answer but I now prefer the word E> "medicine" to "magick". E> My personal experience in magick involves a lot of ongoing E> work. It is not a matter of Set and forget. (pardon the E> pun) JP>What is the T.o.S.'s views on followers of other JP>religions? E> Personally I find it a waste of energy worrying about other E> peoples' beliefs. JP> These are a few questions I thought should only be JP>answered by members from within. If any of them are out JP>of line, just ignore them, but I would appreciate some JP>elaborated answers. Within the body of my research work JP>I will treat this as an anonymous interview, and JP>use what ever handle you post under as the source. JP> JP>Thanks for your help!! JP> JP>-A searcher of the Truth E> Beware: Where there is Truth there is also a Lie - E> You have to work out which is which. E> Good luck with your poll. E> Quintin. E> --- ELEMENTAL The (free)Sydney Pagan NewsLetter --- E> --- Ezycom V1.02 03fa004b E> * Origin: Morning Star BBS +61-2-833-1848 (666:3/0) E> SEEN-BY: 3/0 120/418 125/33 128/50 101 132/117 147/1077 161/453 244/3208 E> SEEN-BY: 259/212 260/112 287/506 323/110 382/502 620/242 666/119 777/0 E> SEEN-BY: 3611/19 3800/17 4152/9 9008/0 9060/0 9100/0 E> 9110/300 301 303 9130/0 E> SEEN-BY: 9160/0 100 9600/0 E> PATH: 3/0 9110/300 620/242 382/502 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ardat Lili Area: Base of Set To: Moderator 8 Jan 94 05:54:32 Subject: Testing UpdReq Greetings, I am conducting a test for the Back Eagle BBS.There may be a problem with our mail messages reaching their intended receivers or with the responses getting through to our system.As with the NightSide echo,I spend a large portion of my BBS time reading this echo, and rather appreciate interaction with other users as opposed to mere posting of messages.I ask that a response be given to this message as soon as possible so that this situation can be evaluated and proper actions taken to correct this possible problem. Thank You , Anxiously awaiting a response, ArDaT lIlI 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ardat Lili Area: Base of Set To: Michael Aquino 9 Jan 94 05:30:36 Subject: Testing UpdReq Greetings, I am conducting a test for the Back Eagle BBS.There may be a problem with our mail messages reaching their intended receivers or with the responses getting through to our system.As with the NightSide echo,I spend a large portion of my BBS time reading this echo, and rather appreciate interaction with other users as opposed to mere posting of messages.I ask that a response be given to this message as soon as possible so that this situation can be evaluated and proper actions taken to correct this possible problem. Thank You , Anxiously awaiting a response, ArDaT lIlI 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Whitefang Area: Base of Set To: Trakka 25 May 94 22:36:38 Subject: The End. Sent UpdReq Very nicely said, but would you be interested in getting more specific? It's difficult to exchange a dialogue when using terms like "niggle" and "wibble." Unless you prefer to remain obtuse and therefore irrefutable; it's safer. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718