From:    Astral Invader                         Area: Base of Set
To:      Lost Soul                               3 Sep 92 13:28:00
Subject: Re: L.H.P. Music                       UpdReq 

LS>  Jason, of course :-)
'Tis doubtful....heh....
/Astral/

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From:    Servant                                Area: Base of Set
To:      rakshasa                                3 Sep 92 15:58:00
Subject: Re: Gnostic gospels                    UpdReq 

ra>  They may pray until they're blue in the face asking Jesus to take
ra>  away that temptation to sleep with members of their own sex...and in
ra>  the process they definitely manage to make themselves neurotic
ra>  wrecks.  I've slept with at least one Presbyterian deacon and quite a
So you do not believe that God can take away their sins?  Interesting.
ra>  I would advise them all to come out of the closet--the light's better
ra>  out here!
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR LIGHT WON'T BURN OUT?
=)  Jeff

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From:    rakshasa                               Area: Base of Set
To:      Servant                                 3 Sep 92 17:11:00
Subject: Re: Gnostic gospels                    UpdReq 

        Se> So you don't believe God can take away their sins.
         I don't believe their homosexual desires are necessarily "sins..." so 
we may have a difficulty there.  I would ask you to clarify this statement by 
explaining more clearly how God "takes away" sins.  I suspect we may be 
talking about two different things--what I meant was that they wished God to 
make their sexual orientation different...what I think you mean is that they 
wish God to forgive them (which they do...but they want more than that as 
well.  The Catholic Church (which I grew up in) has always distinguished 
between sexual orientation and sexual practice.  One may be a celibate 
homosexual, or even a married homosexual...but still homosexual.
         I guess I would shoot that one at you...is sexual orienttaion without 
sexual practice necessarily sinful?
         Peace
        Rakshasa
        aka Setian Kevin T. Filan I*

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From:    Servant                                Area: Base of Set
To:      rakshasa                                3 Sep 92 17:33:00
Subject: Re: Gnostic gospels                    UpdReq 

ra>          I guess I would shoot that one at you...is sexual orienttaion
ra>  without sexual practice necessarily sinful?
But, if your sexual orientation was homosexual, wouldn't you practice it?
I guess, IF THERE EVER WAS A CASE, if they did not practice homosexuality
but had thoughts about men, it wouldn't be a sin.  Your thought life can
not sin - it is YOUR actions that sin - of course your ACTIONS are brought
upon by your thoughts - are they not?
            Peace, dude...
            Jeff Mccord

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From:    Grendel                                Area: Base of Set
To:      Jeff Mccord                             2 Sep 92 00:48:00
Subject: Gnostic gospels                        UpdReq 

 > ALL ANIMALS do not have SOULS - can you dispute that?
 Yes, easily. Animals have souls. There. I disputed it.
 >     Humans are the only "animal" that has a soul.  Since when did people
 > look at animal standards?  Animals eat other animals poop...  do you?
 Which animals eat other animals' "poop?"
 > I will admitt, how shocked I am/was to see a lot of people openly admitt
 > they are gay or are for the homosexual...  different... most societies
 > shun the thought.  Why is it so favored in here?
 Not all societies shun Homosexuality. In fact, many have embraced it as 
natural. I think you are showing your ignorance of history here, Jeffy.
 Wassail,
 Grendel


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