From: Frc Area: Base of Set To: Nrrys 6 Apr 92 06:31:00 Subject: Re: Green Egg letter (2 UpdReq Nr> Thanks for the quote. Saved to permanent storage! Nr> X SLMR 2.1a X Jimi Hendrix uses a Purple Hayes modem. And I saved this tag line....great! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Linda Beebe Area: Base of Set To: Nrrys 6 Apr 92 08:15:00 Subject: Re: Satanism in General UpdReq Hello... Good to hear from you... Nr> Well, we still have hope for him... For Pale Rider?...hmmm...he seems willing to learn... Nr> Ack!! A new-ager! Well, we'll try to "save" you! I HATE that term....I am NOT a new ager....actually most the things I really hold at "truth" are quiet old...grin Nr> LB>Stranger in a strange land...ever read it? Nr> Oh, I'm a sort of a member of the Church of All Worlds. Some people Nr> thought Nr> that the church as described in the book was kind of cool, and made Nr> it Nr> for real (but it has evolved quite a bit since then!). I guess you Nr> have never read _Drawing Down the Moon_ or any other Neo-Pagan books? Nr> You might want to check out that one for an "overview". I'll do that...and NO, I've not read a lot of "pagan books"... guess I should... Nr> Did you know that many Amerinds are kind of pissed at the new-agers Nr> ripping off their religious stuff? I haven't ripped off anything, I simply think their spiritual concepts were very evolved, for "heathens"...grin They have every right to be pissed at each and every white person in the country, in my opinion... Nr> LB>phenomenias and don't want to advance...if you know what I Nr> LB>mean... Nr> There is hope for you, yet! (chuckle) Nr> Maybe "aspects" of a greater one truth? all things have purpose...all things were created by the same force... Nr> LB>it appears respect for truth has no dark or light side, in Nr> LB>a matter of speaking... Nr> You're getting closer! (IMHO) why thank you....it's so good to know I'm on the right track...(grin) Nr> LB>LIE...a huge, all incompassing LIE...and I've found it's Nr> LB>roots through my knowledge seeking...and it does exist... Nr> Now, this is interesting! Tell me about these roots that you have Nr> found? WELL...since YOU ask...grin IT all started some years ago, when I was looking something up in the Bible, and it dawned on me that the "Snake" wasn't a "bad guy", he was trying to help... He was trying to "free" those symbolic people from something... And trust me, it's take a lot of digging, and research to find out the reason for this...and it's like a puzzle, little pieces have come from many places, no one book, or train of thought... the story of Eden goes back to Surmeria... and it does appear the Surmerians were a "slave" race to some degree...with the "gods" controling them, yet living among them... it also appears that this highly evolved race of people just kind of suddenly appeared, with music, math, astronomy, ships, temples...etc... they knew the solar system, the distance of the planets, the sizes, the colors..some of this we did not know for sure till Voyager went by them a couple of years ago... TO make a long story short, our evolution got tampered with... the lie is a complicated combination of distracting us from our true spiritual nature and keeping us "tied" to the plane, in ways... I work out of my home, and I must make some calls...more later... L 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Azrael Area: Base of Set To: Almighty God 6 Apr 92 09:16:00 Subject: Re: left-hand? UpdReq First, let me say thanks for your informative responce. In paragraph one you explained part of my question on "figure head" however, you failed to mention anything as to the why of this particular figure head. It seems to me (please correct me if I am wrong) that if the choice of Satan as a figure head is designed to seperate from the masses. Then a much more open stand of beliefs is required than I have seen in most Satanists. Or is "mystery and secrecy" sought after? Is that a part of the appeal? In paragraph two you opened the door of enlightment on that subject. It is a shame that Pale Rider and Astral seem unable to respect each others right to choose as much as you apparently do. I find this most curious, everything that I read (on this board) screams of individuality, yet two of the most out-spoken members of this area of thought seem to not respect the other's right to individual choice. Is it personal? Why oppose without when there is plenty to oppose without? I guess that this just proves that whenever two individuals have opposing views about strong beliefs,t rifts occur, and division and diversity arise to brighten an otherwise sadate world. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Pale Rider Area: Base of Set To: Jonathon 6 Apr 92 10:06:00 Subject: Re: Christian Crime UpdReq Jo> does any of that negate Jo> Jo> "Anyone who strikes his father or mother must surely be put Jo> to Jo> death" exodus 22:15 Jo> Jo> "Anyone who hits a man so hard that he dies shall surely be Jo> put to Jo> death" exodus 22:12 First off, you made some mistakes. These should be chapter 21, and not chapter 22. Jo> "Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child." Jo> "If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto Jo> me, i Jo> will surely hear their cry" Jo> "And my wrath shall wax hot and I will kill you with the Jo> sword; Jo> and yourt wives shall be widows, & and your children fatherless." Jo> exodus 22:22-24 First off, these are Old Testament, Mosaic Laws. New Testament laws are from the new dispensation, so the laws in the New Testament come over the laws in the Old Testament. However, so far, I have not found one Mosaic Law that was totally wiped off the slate yet. The shedding of blood for the remission of sins is still in affect, but Jesus was the one time sacrifice, so we no longer perform sacrifices, cause Jesus is to be everyone's sacrifice. An Eye For An Eye was the main one that I know of that had a major change to Turn the Other Cheek. Now, as far as the rest of these laws, they are mostly unchanged, except for the punishments. You have to understand that these Mosaic Laws were actual laws that governed a body of people. They work kind of in the same way that the laws of our nation. These were actual laws. The laws were carried out by their governing body. No governing body that I know of use the Mosaic Laws as their actual laws. That is what has changed. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Pale Rider Area: Base of Set To: Jonathon 6 Apr 92 10:10:00 Subject: Re: Christian Crime UpdReq Jo> PR> I don't question God's Authority, because I know what He says is Jo> RIGHT! Jo> Jo> other than making an appeal to pure terrorism, amd Jo> emotion Jo> do you have any proof to back that up? Jo> God's Word is proof enough. But if you were looking for proof of God, then try reading More Than A Carpenter and Evidence That Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Pale Rider Area: Base of Set To: Templeton Hyde 6 Apr 92 10:21:00 Subject: Re: Christian Crime UpdReq TH> the bible in a different way. how can you be sure your (or your TH> group's) interpretation is correct? all these people who committed The reason that I know that my interpretation for the most part is correct, is because I have had to learn how to take things in their proper context, kind of like using a biblical scientific method. You have to make sure you know the point of view, the things that are happening during that Scripture, etc..... I do not have the complete biblical scientific method written down, but I have learned how to take get things in their proper context by watching Dr. Hugh Ross. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Pale Rider Area: Base of Set To: Templeton Hyde 6 Apr 92 10:30:00 Subject: Re: Personal Preservation vs mass murder, 2 of 3UpdReq TH> who? andrew jackson, who had become famous for having driven TH> thousands of red indians out of florida. are you going to tell me he TH> knew he was wrong? he didn't: would you call a u.s.president a TH> criminal? he was absolutely sincere that was the way to interpret the TH> scriptures. now how come you know your own interpretation isn't TH> wrong? I would not suprise me one bit, if Andrew Jackson was a mason. Alot of our men in the government have been masons, especially back during when he was president. If he was a mason, you can't expect him to definitely have the proper interpretation. I tried finding out what religious affilations that he had in the Encyclopedia, but it didn't say anything about his religion or if he was a mason. And don't try to tell me that there is nothing wrong with masons, because I have enough information here to prove that true Christians can't be masons, and that masons are not just a fraternal organization. That is the reason that many denominations require that their members are not apart of any lodge, etc..... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Linda Beebe Area: Base of Set To: Pale Rider 6 Apr 92 10:47:00 Subject: Re: Personal Preservation vs mass murder, 2 of 3UpdReq PR> don't try to tell me that there is nothing wrong with masons, I AGREE...the Masons are dangerous...sometimes they don't even realize what their organization is about... L 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Nosferat Area: Base of Set To: Star*fire 6 Apr 92 12:41:00 Subject: Re: My beliefs UpdReq Actually no, I'm not sorry. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought him back. HAIL ERIS! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Nosferat Area: Base of Set To: Nrrys 6 Apr 92 12:52:00 Subject: Re: YOUR CONNECTIONS... UpdReq FNORD and Thanx 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Triple Six Area: Base of Set To: Nrrys 5 Apr 92 13:38:42 Subject: "gay basher" UpdReq In a message to Triple Six <28 Mar 92 10:10> Nrrys wrote: >TS>The man whose name I threatened to reveal, FIRST revealed mine. Nr> An eye for an eye? I leave that kind of stuff to the Xians. If it works, I use it... };->> Nr> Well, by his actions he: Nr> 1)loses credibility with us. Nr> 2)possibly does harm to you. Nr> In the case of (1), his loss, no? Nr> In the case of (2), do you really think Nr> so? If so, know your true will, and Nr> DO. You really give a damn about my opinion? It's not really a personal thing for me, but apparently it is for him. I've simply made a few statements regarding E.P.I.C. and O.M.E.N. Temples which he, naturally, took opposition to. Fortunately, his conduct here did much to support my statements. >TS>I refuse to turn the other cheek. Nr> But you would let the blow land in the first place? Point taken. Nr> Hmm... I believe that there is power in knowing a person's real name in a Nr> situation where others don't. Certainly Nr> not as much as knowing their "True" Nr> name, but still I would be reluctant to Nr> give up such a potential advantage. Nr> Also, response in kind is what is expected of you. Do you truly wish to Nr> be so predictable? I don't know you, but I like you. You've given me "food for thought," and that, I appreciate. Cheers! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Triple Six Area: Base of Set To: Almighty God 5 Apr 92 14:19:18 Subject: PR UpdReq In a message to Triple Six <04 Apr 92 19:57> Almighty God wrote: AG> You seem to spend a lot of time with Pale Rider. What do you AG> find so interesting about him/her that you care what he thinks about AG> you? I've met him and I like him. He's a nice guy and quite a different character in person. The fact that he is a xtian doesn't mean I don't consider him a friend. What he thinks of me is irrelevant. Cheers! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Astral Invader Area: Base of Set To: Diane Vera 6 Apr 92 17:10:00 Subject: Re: Nothing imparticular UpdReq DV> Thanks for clarifying this. Your explanation is more-or-less what DV> I expected; thanks for confirming my impressions. Glad I could help.... (I accidentally do that from time to time }:) ) /Astral/ 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Triple Six Area: Base of Set To: Astral Invader 6 Apr 92 17:08:24 Subject: xtian Metal UpdReq In a message to Triple Six <05 Apr 92 22:18> Astral Invader wrote: >TS> I love you too PR.... };->> AI> 'Jump for Jesus' AI> (Guitar solo)....}:) Mary had a little lamb, His Blood was white as snow. He came into this evil world, To give us Life you know. Xeper thru Christ, * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Triple Six Area: Base of Set To: Templeton Hyde 6 Apr 92 17:54:06 Subject: PeThose damn Masons... UpdReq In a message to Templeton Hyde <06 Apr 92 10:30> Pale Rider wrote: PR> I would not suprise me one bit, if Andrew Jackson was a mason. PR> Alot of our men in the government have been masons, especially PR> back during when he was president. If he was a mason, you can't PR> expect him to definitely have the proper interpretation. I tried PR> finding out what religious affilations that he had in the PR> Encyclopedia, but it didn't say anything about his religion or if PR> he was a mason. And don't try to tell me that there is nothing PR> wrong with masons, because I have enough information here to PR> prove that true Christians can't be masons, and that masons are PR> not just a fraternal organization. That is the reason that many PR> denominations require that their members PR> are not apart of any lodge, etc..... You should have seen that one coming... };->> The Masons are the source of much of the world's eeeviill, second only to the Jesuits.... Amusing, don't you think? Cheers! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Astral Invader Area: Base of Set To: Triple Six 7 Apr 92 02:44:00 Subject: Re: xtian Metal UpdReq TS> Mary had a little lamb, TS> His Blood was white as snow. TS> He came into this evil world, TS> To give us Life you know. I do so envy your teenage years....}:) Xeper....'Leap for Leviathan' /Astral/ 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Almost Area: Base of Set To: Nrrys 8 Apr 92 19:18:22 Subject: Rules? Sent UpdReq There are rules and the Moderator is ever-present. (Omni-Present? ;>) The rules, tho, are of course, very comfortable and tend to be very agreeable. :) Pax et Lox. 93 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718