From: David Chessler Area: Public Key Encryption To: Glen Todd 23 May 95 10:35:00 Subject: Encrypted messages UpdReq On 05-20-95 (16:45), Glen Todd, in a message to David Chessler about "ENCRYPTED MESSAGES", stated the following: GT>DC> An agency cannot, under the administrative procedures act, enforce >any rule >DC> or law, unless it has a public interface (appeals process, >administrative >DC> law judges, the whole schmere). GT>True, but irrelevant. The gummint has already more than adequately >proved >that it has no qualms about wriggling around it's own regulations. So, >what >you have is State being the _official_ administering agency, with the >officially non-existant NSA calling the shots from behind the curtain. Except it's not just NSA involved. Commerce and Defence get involved on a policy level. Treasury is involved when it involves banking. And any direct or indirect involvement by NSA is subject to the ex parte rules. If it can be shown that NSA was involved "calling the shots from behind the curtain" on any matter, any judge will throw out the decision. That's the law. >(1:128/1330) -- ___ __ david.chessler@neteast.com d_)--/d chessler@capaccess.org chessler@trinitydc.edu * SLMR 2.1b * E-mail: ->132 1:109/459 david.chessler@neteast.com 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Andy Hayes 28 May 95 23:06:46 Subject: Re: SecureMail Host Routi UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 26 May 95, Andy Hayes stated: CB> SecureMail Host Systems AH> Could you please explain what all thsi is for? FidoNet Policy4 included a sentence not found in any previous version. it sez that routing 'encrypted' traffic is annoying unless you have previous permission from the routers. since privacy is not uppermost in the minds and practices of many FidoNet Sysops and since there are noisy folks who make much of this P4 phrase, we, the SMH, formed an internal FidoNet routing scheme of volunteers who will route anyone's traffic anywhere WITHOUT reading it. the SMH map merely indicates where those volunteers are located within FidoNet. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: SUPPORT the Phil Zimmerman Legal Defense Fund! iQCVAwUBL8k6OcsQPBL4miT5AQGBwgP/ZPLgsE29XhaX86S7GmyXXcLn3lpmYmnn KNkDNF6E0HyYulB7Hb+lMAa/N/VdmQbPWGVM2dMNOPiP0AGCCUNQJT2TLeK52vd8 mIXL4o7yk/Hptzh7RivMNonkC7hl3LuHSE0DQXnwaYTmtn3D7EjiWdEzLgps0ADm eGAh4ErPF+Q= =JMPB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: L P 29 May 95 13:34:34 Subject: Re: pgp Stuff Available UpdReq Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, L P said this to Glen Todd: LP> Front end: BinkleyTerm 2.59 LP> Extract a Zone 1 nodelist when you compile your nodelist. LP> Binkley permits you to set up your FREQ security using LP> 3 levels of security defined by settings in your Binkley LP> configuration file: All of which works great, unless and until the person makes one quick addition to his alias list and then calls back. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: Alan Pugh 29 May 95 13:32:26 Subject: Re: Send/rec PGP Msg's UpdReq Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, Alan Pugh said this to Jeffrey Bloss: AP> have you ever been subscribed to cypherpunks? i was for a while AP> and learned quite a bit until the s/n ratio got too high to AP> justify the traffic on my end. A high signal-to-noise ratio is desirable; a low one is bad. Example; if there are 5 on-topic messages, and 1 off-topic (like this one ), then you have a signal-to-noise ratio of 5:1, which is high. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718