From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: Christopher Baker 13 Aug 94 16:23:54 Subject: more PGP hoaxing Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, Christopher Baker said this to All: CB> Steve Winter is now being imitated in usenet with a phony PGP key CB> just as Ralph Stokes was about a month ago. It's nice to see my article get a response, although I'd kind of hoped it wouldn't get this particular response. I should have alerted Steve, although he probably has me twit-filtered so it wouldn't have mattered. :-) CB> he has just freqed PGP 2.6 from here and will make a key even if CB> he never uses it just to prevent any more bogus traffic from CB> being claimed as his. Good; perhaps notification of this will prevent future occurrences of the kind in the 'snooze. CB> i will obtain and post this real key with my signature on it CB> after he studies the docs and generates one. Make sure you give him a lecture on key security. Be sure to mention specifically that he shouldn't use ya'll's session password to protect his secret key. I don't like him, and I wish he'd shut up, but that's all the more reason for me to help protect his rights. --- Sqed/32 0.96/r15029 # Origin: Void Where Prohibited/2 (1:19/34) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Tim Bradley 12 Aug 94 10:06:44 Subject: New to PGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim Bradley wrote in a message to jason carr: TB> I kind of have to split the difference here: the only TB> way that electronic communications can fulfill it's real TB> potential is if verifiability is virtually universal, and TB> only digital signitures will insure that. On the other hand, Agreed. TB> doesn't do ANYONE any good to give the key-escrow people TB> even an inch by being antisocial. So, yeah, sign first & Yup... TB> stop only if asked, but don't kick and complain if asked, TB> comply immediately, politely, and with a} a clear TB> explanation of WHY digital sig's are useful, and b} a That's a great idea. The idea, imo, is to gain exposure for the ideas, and try to lure others into it.. >;) Gently, gently... It's almost a seduction. TB> request that disallowing Sig's be mentioned in the Echo TB> rules where anyone who is concerned about the reliability of TB> the Echos contents can immediately know that the echo does TB> NOT allow such protection. A good idea. It enlists the Mod's help to address the ???, even if the answer is "no." TB> Politeness and reasonableness are TB> THE most important points, no matter WHAT you believe the TB> LONG term consequences of lack of free encryption may be, TB> MOST people don't want to think about it, and will only get TB> annoyed if you try to MAKE them. True 'nuff. I remember reading some of the pro-PGP snooze articles a year or so ago, and wondering what in the world these people were raving about. They seemed so serious, so ... I dunno. Kinda like the stereotypes of feminists, where they're all bitter and in the attack mode. We don't need that kind of perception about us... :) Thanks for your input. I think you've lured me over to your position. :) jason ... ARF, ARF, ARF ARF ARF!!! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkuuBUjhGzlN9lCZAQEBbwP9GLhucKr4IrH9yBKwBHllvsLVIVvuymJ5 Q3sgdptWvjzAu9SUcW+zC04B274DlIHb+wP/lniVdX+EEwnzez/G7XTzijsbsmYj M8qgCiiULZME8yvwZXCXUKEak5FdUuopHi1JJeeVsjg0cZJg+fCOfXzQ9ACoX0Pi dftazc56kc4= =/y/o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ...Key fingerprint = 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 --- CALLQ.BAT It's ugly, but it works! # Origin: FREQ JASONKEY.ASC 214.650.0382 (1:124/3208) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Tim Devore Area: Public Key Encryption To: Tim Bradley 11 Aug 94 23:51:38 Subject: PGP & Point Software In a message of 10 Aug 94 Tim Bradley wrote to All: TB> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- TB> Hi All! TB> Thanks to Chris Baker, I now *DO* have v2.6, but now I have a new TB> question : I'm trying to get set up as a Point, and I'm wondering if TB> anyone knows of a} Amiga Point software that specifically supports PGP; TB> and/or b} good scripts to juryrig PGP capability into my message editors TB> ... on that point, UNIX Rexx scripts may well be adaptable, so if any TB> UNIX people have ideas, I'm all ears... TIA! For one if you got the Spot 1.2d archive there is an AREXX script in there that encrypts and one that decrypts PGP stuff. The only bad thing is that if you want to use it through Spot your need to register it. But who's to say that you can't fiddle with it and have a stand alone Script for encrypting and one For decrypting. TB> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- TB> Version: 2.6 TB> Comment: I am Locutus of the NSA: Privacy is irrelevant TB> iQBVAgUBLGf7jTDp94PCS+V9AQFtHAIAkUpQgXnMDgMzI8MtBwSp142DWRabgbwE TB> 9o8g2WZB4APE4uHyVdCS/eieZ72LWIuntZfZkOQoTNkIbSIpZLEkgg== =zkzt TB> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- How are you getting your messages signed like this. I've tried and wasn't able to figure it out and can't locate what I need in the numerous doc files. I want the actual commands. How do you examine a key on your secring? Tim Devore, Amiga Library-Op, Co-Sysop of Realm of Thought --- Spot 1.2d Unregistered # Origin: Night Stalker Inn (1:2440/180.4) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Alan Pugh 12 Aug 94 18:02:54 Subject: Re: pgpblue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 10 Aug 94, Alan Pugh was quoted as saying: AP> where can i download the latest version of pgpblue on a first time AP> caller basis? right here. 407-383-1372. PGPBLU25.ZIP or PGPBLOS2.ZIP which is 2.5 for OS/2. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6a Comment: PGP 2.6 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAgUBLkvxg8sQPBL4miT5AQGOKAP/RVjsc1FZhuyRXvnZikLaxHpHZfkPiQ9v ZNKhj0R31zd26yqX6yP8SjsT5t4/9asFZpPbAVlSLBbEdPp/FTt0arJnS8GALoXa V7b1MLATh/IRDDkpRVS4OrRkAQ+W6VThiXVL76X1V0XzFc99/cpGlUIghp/IixVs qfsFoje3YFk= =7dqK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- GenMsg [0002] (cbak.rights@opus.global.org) # Origin: Rights On! for Privacy! It's a Right not a privilege! (1:374/14) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Rebellious Guerrilla Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 13 Aug 94 00:13:10 Subject: PGP2.6a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- PGP version 2.6a has just been compiled for DOS and OS2. Features include all known bugs being fixed. This is an RSAREF version, so it is not to be exported! Previous versions have had problems with errors such as DOS #8... this bug is squashed with 2.6a. This is being issued as an interium fix pending the next official release which (hopefully) will have all of these fixes as well. Files are available via FREQ from here, using the *magic* names of: PGPOS2 for the OS2 version. PGP for the DOS version. /* enjoy! */ The Rebel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6a Comment: Privacy... One of the Basic Human Rights! iQCVAgUBLkxIT8F94nAc8jJdAQER1QP+JKXdM5Lv9Tgh0cXIMV10+kxVR2R0Ugyj YfgdwL/PPG5ZFF+uUiUaVzwNYPe0Enf8LhGKXgL3jy+7F0cpAReGJb/GHVyrKlD6 Gajzpujeeo0AwHHlqzWinyyeBiVITG05uL/2DNEks1FLlq59BusgOk3OR21JKPbv GLynxjFn4Tc= =lENd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- GenMsg/OS2 [0001] (gkp@f26.n374.z1.fidonet.org) # Origin: Privacy - Fight for it, or lose it forever! (1:374/26) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Edwin Teh Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 12 Aug 94 06:30:10 Subject: Shells & FrontEnds for PG Could someone recommend me a 'decent' (?) shell/frontend for me to manipulate PGP? Where I might be able to pickup a copy (via FREQ or FTP), and what the latest version might be? I'd also like to know where I may pickup PGPBLUE, the version I carry with me is 1.7, the author seems to have left out where I might find the latest copy. Note : I've looked into the following PGP shells/frontends and found them , well, generally, pretty unsuitable. PGPBLUE 1.7 - not too bad, a little quirky, don't like the way its called up, dos has a certain limit to the length of the commandline.PGPShell 3.1 - Pretty ok, except I detest the fact it takes about 3 minutes to load each time. (It keeps 'gathering PGP info', and I've got a big keyring + a slow computer). Apart from that, it looks real neat, and the key management part looks cool...AutoPGP 2.11 - Unsuitable for my needs - I get the feeling it directly manipulates .QWK .REP files and the like... And no, I didn't like the idea of that. EZ-PGP 1.00 - Felt it was pretty kludgy to use, and I didn't like the way it handled. So, apart from the above, what other shells/frontends are there (and where can I pickup the latest copy?) Actually, if I can't find one suitable enough, I'd like to write my own, I've had the 'idea' since last year (or perhaps quite a few years back). I'm just not too sure how to get about starting, I'm _bad_ at 'C', and it's the only language I speak. Could someone just tell me what do you like to see in a Frontend shell? And how would you like it to handle? I plan it for OMR use, so, you'll probably call it up via commandline. Should I optimize my code for minimum memory (help me! I haven't got a clue on how that can be done!), or should I make it run 'fast'? (No clue on how to do that either). Rgds. edwinteh@cyberspace.org PS: Replies via Email would reach me faster I guess... --- Maximus/2 2.01wb --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' # Origin: DSC BBS * Ivyland, PA * 215-443-7390 * 6,000 SIGS! * (1:273/203) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Peter Tan Area: Public Key Encryption To: Edwin Teh 13 Aug 94 02:07:10 Subject: Shells & FrontEnds for PG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Yo Edwin... -=> Quoting Edwin Teh to All (Friday August 12 1994) <=- ET-> So, apart from the above, what other shells/frontends are there ET-> (and where can I pickup the latest copy?) ET-> Actually, if I can't find one suitable enough, I'd like to write ET-> my own, I've had the 'idea' since last year (or perhaps quite a ET-> few years back). I'm just not too sure how to get about starting, ET-> I'm _bad_ at 'C', and it's the only language I speak. You don't need to write any sort of shell in any programming language other than the standard DOS "batch file" language. Just call PGP using batch files to manipulate your message after you're done writing it via GoldED/Blue Wave etc etc. _____ |____) |eter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 Comment: peter.tan%elite%oconn@csah.com iQCVAgUBLku65nR8S6dJmEqdAQHq4AP/eOMzLIpDazkm3i8COyp25sGE2Md0yXwJ YdTA0upCy+3lRUH9g4e/Ttnj8qfJiAqD3Bv4AQHfiwdfsQrDQ+ytXMwd+IvQFV2s M2JprHzRI7wWPAo9ySNrVm5rW9VBd1qAzm+1IVSCuAj4uqIaGSoU0R5Uwh9NuQn/ 2ujIK37DKwM= =jFtA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- GEcho 1.02+ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' # Origin: DSC BBS * Ivyland, PA * 215-443-7390 * 6,000 SIGS! * (1:273/203) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: David Rye Area: Public Key Encryption To: Christopher Baker 12 Aug 94 00:26:18 Subject: Comment Hello Christopher... Wednesday August 10 1994, Christopher Baker wrote to Brian Mcmurry: CB> Version: 2.6 CB> Comment: PGP 2.6 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] How did you get the comment to show up? L8er Dave ... If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes. --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0615+ # Origin: The Schoolhouse/2 St. Catharines, Ontario (1:247/123) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Richard Walker 13 Aug 94 08:30:22 Subject: Re: Net 106 still at it? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Richard Walker wrote in a message to jason carr: RW> potential liability; as I have near zero ability to pay any RW> lawsuit judgement, my potential liability is near zero, and RW> so I offered to take the burden of these echos off of the RW> distributors. I appreciate your generosity, and willingness to help distribution. This net needs more sysops with those qualities. :) RW> Now would everyone here quit slamming Net 106! We have one It was not my intention to slam 106, only to gather information about a rumor. Besides, you guys have enough heartache, what with living in Houston and all. :P RW> No one has a right to tell another person that they must RW> carry encrypted/signed traffic. Agreed. jason ... Nobody Home But the Lights & they're out too. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkzqREjhGzlN9lCZAQGqwAQAp7UoZHW1WhnehkcDoSodgPbEShjKCTXr 1/+TXsuEgcVCd9DsxrRgAQwA1hIo3BaqpFTPDciv1R5IpLYfZZqWHRpfVOo+gn0I cJnjikbfbsAnnHPA1pOIwMwQTyFWurTn5fbNIuw+q3ZwJFItZg5+0uLqBQTMRtDk vxWuMZ/wXnk= =y4ae -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ...Key fingerprint = 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 --- CALLQ.BAT It's ugly, but it works! # Origin: FREQ JASONKEY.ASC 214.650.0382 (1:124/3208) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 13 Aug 94 08:34:08 Subject: New to PGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- SM> Jason, it'd be polite to send netmail asking if you could SM> post ANYTHING in an echo before you ever post it. That is correct: it is good form, imo, to ask permission before doing anything that might agitate the mod. SM> It'd also be quite silly. Well, you wouldn't want to ask permission to say 'hi' or whatever. SM> Do you really want the assumption to be "can't sign my SM> messages, unless told differently?" I netmail the mod first and ask, unless the echo obviously supports clearsigs. SM> That can't, and SHOULDN'T, be done through Policy. The only SM> way it'll ever happen is if a large number of people start SM> routinely signing their messages. Mob digisigning? :) SM> Signing echomail is not something to which there is SM> legitimate objection; Well, that's =our= opinion. SM> therefore, you should treat it like SM> you would the word "gnarly." If a moderator wants to object SM> to you using "gnarly" in his echo, that's his right; but it There is not currently heated argument in Fido (and the courts) about "gnarly." No one has testified to Congress about "gnarly." SM> The same is true of clear-signing your messages. Would you SM> ask somebody's permission before you scrawled your signature SM> on the bottom of a note you placed on a real-world cork SM> bulletin board? No, of course not. However, if the owner i would ask before posting anything on someone else's corkboard. SM> of that board asked you to stop signing your notes, you'd SM> certainly do it. The same is true of digital sigs. That's not a directly transferable analogy. A better one might be "attaching a poloroid of your self to your notes." SM> Yes, moderators own their echoes, and yes, they have every SM> right to throw you out if you refuse to follow their SM> instructions. But it's not your obligation to find out what But the object of the game is not to be thrown out, but rather to be a valuable and insightful participant in echomail discussions. SM> against signing messages, then it doesn't HAVE one. You're SM> under no obligation to live by a rule that might exist at SM> some future date. But I argue that it's bad form to behave in such a way that the mod is forced to =make= a new rule. We need to convince the mods, not alienate them. YMMV, of course. jason ... I tried an internal modem, but it hurt when I walk. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkzpyEjhGzlN9lCZAQGKIQQApv2ZTweWHh+eKZtW/HY+wd63DZm+/PNy Um7gsj7GbOPYCM9kskqDCEzXboQnCBPFnq2C1+6WKTQYMrdKupbhRHQxhKdrCw33 9m0KR1W+JyewAzm6KYX6QLonnMuIGtf2BRbnijd2Z/YsfBGvdn6ajMwhOUgusNpF fQSPm9hj7NY= =jUhf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ...Key fingerprint = 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 --- CALLQ.BAT It's ugly, but it works! # Origin: FREQ JASONKEY.ASC 214.650.0382 (1:124/3208) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Brian McMurry Area: Public Key Encryption To: Ryan Watson 10 Aug 94 11:00:46 Subject: Re: PGP 2.6 & C & Amiga -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat 6-Aug-1994 2:50p, Ryan Watson wrote: RW> Could anyone out there assist me in recompiling PGP 2.6 to work with the RW> Amiga? I guess you didn't see my (off-topic) post in PKEY_DROP. I got the Amiga version directly from its author. All the files are available for FREQ or d/l 23hrs/day. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkhCtN2dg1OWsljdAQFYQQP+LekIqJZ8/fn/v12T4agSQ+U/TCMzILmB EKdN0APHUjYCD9pYZZmMHbrRAWw1fzroudxknel41a48mchq1pbRTD2ddlFsr7+W RXA0iPjTnM2KkCjbWgZzA3Nuh/Va5DTv63ReMt47y1uAGRa0lgeD/QN6lXu2+3G4 NPlZQIoavxk= =kAK7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- # Origin: *AACHEN* 818-972-9440 Burbank, CA FIDONET (1:102/844) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: John Schofield Area: Public Key Encryption To: Wes Landaker 11 Aug 94 22:28:46 Subject: Remailer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- --====-- JS> I am currently looking for Fidonet SysOps willing to beta-test JS> REMAIL. REMAIL is currently vaporware. I estimate that at my JS> current rate, a beta-test version will be available in a month. JS> (So if someone ships me a crate of Capios, expect it in a week. JS> {grin}) WL> This sounds like a wonderful idea! I'd be willing to help in any way WL> that I can with it, all you need to do is ask. :) WL> I'm getting to be quite a seasoned beta-tester now-a-daze ;) so if WL> you're ever in need, "REMAIL" me a netmail. (Oh boy, I kill Thanks, Wes! You're on my list, and I'll let you know the moment I have something ready. JMS -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 Comment: Call +1-818-345-8640 for information on Keep Out iQCVAgUBLksIOGj9fvT+ukJdAQH2wwP/cTJrc2UgQIYlhE8FSGIapVnOdlKz1JsD GjWdbehnyGIKcH6Iuf4bJAKmRVwg86uerKy9RAij3+tqV0x97l3dEQACkzoQRK23 YEIUuD+2kH6mEdXWv6Pz8zyWRne3OZSeDBgRHpGbVg2JXYsNn9y/zpfmB6cku0U9 ThD0WfSqlnU= =GB6O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- **EZ-PGP v1.07 ... Privacy is a sacred right. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 # Origin: The Sprawl -- 818-342-5127 -- Tarzana, California, USA (1:102/903) * Origin: PODNet <-> FidoNet EchoGate! (93:9600/0.0) SEEN-BY: 107/946 132/117 147/1077 259/212 382/7 640/217 3611/19 9600/0 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201