From: Fra.: Apfelmann Area: Night Side To: Issac Forrest 20 Aug 93 18:37:42 Subject: GROUPS AND SUCH.... UpdReq Hi Issac, > some info regarding chaos group(s) here in San Diego.... > mention of the IOT and Carroll/Sherwin has popped up more than > once..... any input? can't find Lola's address right now.. But try POB 17995, Irvine, California 92713 With fractalic greetings and laughter * Fra.: Apfelmann * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Fra.: Apfelmann Area: Night Side To: Grendel Grettisson 20 Aug 93 18:39:22 Subject: PC 3/? UpdReq Hi Grendel, > Was there an introduction (marked PC 1/? and PC 2/?) that > should have showed up as well? If so, they never made it. Just > this (PC 3) through 16. here it comes again... With fractalic greetings and laughter * Fra.: Apfelmann * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Fra.: Apfelmann Area: Night Side To: * 20 Aug 93 18:39:42 Subject: PC 1/? UpdReq P R I M E C H A O S ===================== FOREWORD This book is a state-of-the-art report on Chaos Magick. It is written with an overview of magick which has grown out of many years of practical work, in a variety of magickal groups and orders, including the Pact of the IOT. The author's creative and experimantal involvement with magick shows in the originality of the material. Think of an influential magickal book: how long ago was that picture of magick conceived? Less than 50 years? Phil's book represents the nearest thing to live magick I've seen in print. It contains work which is still being tested. This is a window an the world of the working magickian, a mysterious flask of distillate hauled from the laboratories of the mind, still smoking suspiciously. One of the great strengths of the book is the section on groups. Chaos Magick has drawn most of its current incalculable influ- ence from the work of groups. In a world where transaction has replaced duty as an imperfect method of achieving social coherence, it is astonishing that virtually nothing exists on the practical dynamics of the non-religious magickal group. What Liber Null did for the solo magician, this essay does for the magickal group, in summarizing the results of years of experience in such alliances. Informed as it is by the spirit of postmodernism, the book does not try to achieve closure. It does not present a system, but supplies the reader with powerful strategic and magickal tools for this stage of the Pandeamonaeon. The mood of the book ist of being profoundly at home in the accelerating shift and fragmantation of daily life. Connoissuers of late 20th century demotic will be delighted by the thefts of phrase. As we see fractal T-shirts, popular images from chaos, and chaos sigils fired out of our TV screens, the reciprocal process is occurring too, and magickal symbolism is growing out of fractal shards of culture. In opening up the magickal demensions of the work of Burroughs and Gysin, Phil introduces to the experimental sorcerer two particulary valuable ideas: the use of cut-up, the sliding and dislocation of words, as a magickal technique, and the concept of wordvirus, aka meme. As in pre-literate societies, magick becomes the core of language, as we weave spells from spelling. This pulls our magick into the heart of everyday life, the Chaos of the Normal, which is where it belongs. Dave Lee 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Fra.: Apfelmann Area: Night Side To: * 20 Aug 93 18:39:58 Subject: PC 2/? UpdReq W H Y C H A O S M A G I C K ? There's basically two kinds of magick. There's puff's magick, and git `ard Magick. Chaos is git `ard Magick. Mick McMagus. Leeds, 1987 As our world changes, so too do our magick. Throughout history, the way in which magick is described and understood changes, from its beginnings in proto-shamanism, to the great 'Occult Revival' at the turn of this century. Chaos Magick sets the pace for our entry into the next century. There have been revolutions in science, literature and art. Chaos Magick is the first revolution in the field of Magick. Previous (and many existing) magical philosophies have been rooted in a connection to the past - be it the past of the ancestors, or in historical (or romantic) tradition. Althrough much of what is emerging as Chaos Magick builds on what has magically gone before it stresses change, rather than continuity, as the only constant. We live in a world that is rapidly changing, a world where the application of high technology and media saturation enables us to mix styles endlessly, where elements of the past present, and possible futures are conjured up in most aspects of everyday life from the clothes we wear, to the beliefs we adopt. While other magical systems promise stability, an anchor into fixed time and ordered universe neatly encapsulated into bite-size take-home pieces, Chaos Magick moves with the fusion and fluidity of modern life. Chaos Magick began to surface in the late 70s as punk rock arose to threaten the complancency of the establishment. Now we see Chaos Theory move from an obscure branch of mathematics into an accepted 'new' science. We have watched computer-generated fractals become high fashion, the mandalas for a new generation. Chaos has become fashionable. We do not reject modern culture, we embrace it. So how is Chaos Magick different from the other Magical Systems which are on special offer in the modern world ? Firstly, Chaos Magick is a paradigm rather than a system in itself. It is an approach or overall view, wherein each individual, ulti- mately, creates his own magical psychocosm. Rather than 'following' a path, the Chaos Magician weaves his own path out of individual experiences, and what works best for him. The Chaos Magician has, from the very beginnings, the option to be as eclectic as he desires, selecting beliefs and techniques from any magical system, indeed anything which ha believes will be useful - from the past, present, or possible futures. From literature, art, science, pseudoscience, technology or fantasy. The revolutionary impact of Chaos Magick was that it emphasized practical experience. What matters is hands-on experience - rather than accommodating second-hand beliefs or long lists of corres- pondences. There are no Chaos teachers, 'holy' books or traditions that dictate belief an behaviour. The Chaos Magician is free to act first, and choose his questions ans answers later. It is the Chaos Magician rather than some guru or teacher, who is respon- sible for development, experience, creativity, and the results of his actions. Magick has always been a way of creating islands of order out of what Austin Spare called 'the chaos of the normal'. As society became more complex, it seems that 'magical' realities became increasingly abstract and relatively simplistic. The otherworld of tribal shaman is a fair reflection of his everyday world, whereas the 'innerworld' of the twentiethcentury Cabbalist bears little resemblance to consensus reality, as he ascends Jacob's Ladder away from the Earth into cosmic abstract spaces. the general view of Chaos Magick is that any islands of order we create are at best temporary enclaves; that belief itself is a tool, rather than a set of limitations that can quickly become a stagnant dogma. Thus a Chaos Magician may choose to adopt a Cabbalistic belief-system as a temporary measure, just as he may given enough time, determination and effort redesign his personal belief which govern any aspect of his behaviour or attitudes. "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" is one of the few Chaos slogans. No wonder that some occultists react to Chaos Magicians as through they are militant anarchists. As we move towards the twenty-first century, a number of concepts which, until fairly recently (and from certain belief-system remain so), appeared stable and understood have been called into question. Pete Carroll, in his seminal work Liber Null (the premier grimoire of Chaos Magick so far), described the 'death' of these concepts as - the Death of Spirituality, the Death of Superstition, the Death of Identity, the Death of Belief, and the Death of Ideology. These concepts are no longer fixed and rigid, and reality becomesa playground for those with the will to enjoy and make it so. One of the immediate concerns to be voiced about Chaos Magick was an implied lack of an ethical basis. Most other occult systems have clearly-stated (sometimes over-stated) ethical stances concerning what the practitioner must not do. The Chaos paradigm rejects the necessity of this attitude and instead tends towards the view that personal morality grows from within - that is, it up to each individual to define and uphold his own ethical standards, rather than them being imposed by some outward agency. Having said this, Chaos Magick is generally pro-life and pro- freedom of expression. Magick tends to be portrayed as being separate or beyond our everyday existence. Chaos Magick, howerver supports the proposition that magick works best when it is responsive to our life situations. The Chaos approach is that of becoming more flexibel and adaptive to the world through which we move, to take a wide-angle, rather than one-directional view of the world, and to seek and embrace new possibilities. To find the most appropriate position and perspective to act from, and than act decisively. Magick becomes not so much what we 'do', but the 'way' we live. This book is but one viewpoint into the Choas Perspective. Magick stagnates when it becomes trapped into set formulations and pro- cedures. Look beyond what you 'know'to be magick, and go further. Enjoy. - Phil Hine, January 1993. y 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Fra.: Apfelmann Area: Night Side To: Nachash 20 Aug 93 18:47:24 Subject: Greetings! UpdReq Hi Nachash, > Greetings my dear Fra.: Apfelmann. ... GREAT to see you back !!!! > You must send me your address ... Sysop of ChaosBox, Stettbacher Tal 43, 64342 Seeheim, Germany > The "little ones" that you sent to me are doing very well, Those with the green hats <*_^>, did the had flowers this year ? > Although that is a topic for another area. Hope to meet you there as well. With fractalic greetings and laughter * Fra.: Apfelmann * 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Deep Black Area: Night Side To: Charles Nemo 19 Aug 93 22:01:00 Subject: The Foxx Catalog Rec'd UpdReq We just got our copy of this great catalog which you mentioned some time ago. What can I say. Its another one of those CLEAR things! Thanks for the tip! Now if I just had the money to buy everything in it....... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Night Side To: Rose Dawn 19 Aug 93 08:19:06 Subject: Gerald Gardner & Oto UpdReq quoting ROSE DAWN To: THE MOONSHADOW ___------------------------------------------------------------------------ RD}>I think Jon was discoursing on the unconstitutionality (is that a word? actually, it was a discourse more on the unconstitionality of the current mode of government, than that of the irs in specific. RD}>straight! They have no right to make me pay taxes!! They actually, taxation is constitional --- if the constitution itself is a legally binding document. And since it comes out of british common law, it isn't binding upon anybody currently alive. RD}>Executive/Judicial/Legislative branches of government roman law, before the christianity did it in. RD}>originate? Is that in the national Constitution somewhere? is in the us consitution, amongs others. 93 jonathon * OLX 2.1 TD * Support the Right to Keep and Arm Bears!! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Night Side To: Nachash 19 Aug 93 08:19:08 Subject: Shamanistic C.M. UpdReq welcome back to the world of cyber space. sandra voiced me to tell you that you were back now i see tis for more than a look see. i trust your retreat was successfull. Xeper jonathon internet jblake@heartland.bradley.edu voice 404-605-7691 snail-mail: 2625 Piedmont Rd # 56105 data 404-687-9155 Atlanta GA 30324-3012 mci mail 583-2411 telex 6505832411 answerback 6505832411mci uw alt internet PI_PSI@MCIMAIL.COM * OLX 2.1 TD * my taglines have gone, my taglines have gone 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Night Side To: Jonathan Corwin 19 Aug 93 08:19:10 Subject: Chaos Magick/PoMo UpdReq quoting JONATHAN CORWIN To: RAISTLIN ___------------------------------------------------------------------------ JC}>I'm attempting to communicate the element of empowerment JC}>inherent in mastering one's perceptual space and states, JC}>so that all aspects--body language, syntax, intent, thought- JC}>patterns, etc. may be brought to bear as an integrated JC}>whole upon the individual's task at hand. Hence, Fra's that is the one of the major aims of Daoist Mysticism. the moral baggage found in Daoist metaphysics, is there more to provide a path to that point, than for any moral reason. << which is also why studying Daoist metaphysics can be a very confusing lybrinth -- the different sects have completely different methods of arriving at the same place. >> JC}>"PROBABILITY IS AS POSSIBILITY DOES" methinks that you did a very nice synopsis of what the Seth/Jane Roberts books are all about here. Xeper jonathon internet jblake@heartland.bradley.edu voice 404-605-7691 snail-mail: 2625 Piedmont Rd # 56105 data 404-687-9155 Atlanta GA 30324-3012 mci mail 583-2411 telex 6505832411 answerback 6505832411mci uw alt internet PI_PSI@MCIMAIL.COM * OLX 2.1 TD * My taglines are missing, my taglines are missing 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Night Side To: Rakshasa 19 Aug 93 08:19:12 Subject: Super New Zine! UpdReq quoting RAKSHASA To: KENNETH FREEMAN ___------------------------------------------------------------------------ RA}>I recommend _The Psychology of Man's Possible Evolution_ that was a textbook for one or other psychology classes i took. Don't remember the course, just the contents of that book. << Psychotherapy, i think. >> << well i did go through an unusual psychology programme. >> 93 jonathon * OLX 2.1 TD * 10 000 super rabbits will guard our schools bottle supply 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Night Side To: Kayla Block 19 Aug 93 08:19:14 Subject: Shamanistic C.M. UpdReq quoting KAYLA BLOCK To: NACHASH KB}>effective the ritual. also, rhythm, (drumming) can be very KB}>mind-altering and could be used to get into the right mind one of the more interesting experiences i had, was with a computer programme that drummed out a steady rythm --- was one or other of the Diablo ones --- which had random pulsating screens, which changed according to the note being drummed. then i went to do the Dance of Inanna. was totally blown away by the power it had that time 93 jonathon * OLX 2.1 TD * Questions are a burden upon others. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718