From: Amazon Lil Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 10 Aug 92 08:50:48 Subject: Dark, dark and dusty.... UpdReq Amazon Lil tips back her black hat and saunters up to the bar. "Pardner,'round here we punch our sacred cows!", she drawls. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Amazon Lil Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 10 Aug 92 08:53:40 Subject: Dark, dark and dusty.... UpdReq A fearsom thought, Dan as an businessman. Soon, Bush will be running an icecream truck! Lil 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Amazon Lil Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 10 Aug 92 08:55:20 Subject: Fear UpdReq It is nice to see Discordians here...have we offended the "Serious Magickians"? As my mum used to say, "if there is something there to be offended, there is something there to be worked on." This was in reference to those Magickians who ARE their egos. I find the worst Magickians for the ego thing are the Cabalists....they are also the ones that need the most knocking down.(and they need to get their Malkuth in order!). To understand the Dark, or the Chaotic, one must know the Light and Order first. Surfing helps. Lil 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: Azoth 9 Aug 92 22:50:04 Subject: Re: Enochian Lexicon UpdReq AZ>Yeah, Turner mentions a discrepency between Dee's manuscript (Liber >Scientia....) and the combined table of characters. I'm willing to >hypothesize that Dee simply never got around to rectifying his Liber >with the T.R.. I shall, in any case, determine the Governors' names >from the Sigils, and not vice versa. It may be that the rectifications were among those papers lost when Mr. Jones' maid used them for pie plates. More papers were lost than survived. I sometimes wonder what marvels were destroyed in her efforts to keep the kitchen table clean. You should note also that some of the sigils shown in the Scientiae tables don't match the sigils shown on the Tablets. And some of the latter are drawn in such a way that you can't tell in what sequence the letters should be used in the name. I'll leave it to you to figure it all out. AZ> JN> And -- as I'm sure you know -- if you stop using C for a few > JN> months, you forget most of it. AZ>Hehe. Yeah. I've been doing C for about 10 years, and sometimes the >finer points still slip away. I'm a relative novice at C++, after >only about 3 years. I've played with SmallTalk for Windows, but >somehow never got around to anything serious. I like the object >oriented approach to things, though, which can be applied in just >about any language, once you get the mind set. I do like the "object" approach as long as it's done right. But some folks -- like the ones who invented ACTOR -- seem bent on making things complicated no matter what. I've never seen how it was less complicated to have a hundred "objects" with thirty internal routines each that you have to remember, than it is to have three thousand routines buried in a C library that you have to remember. Either one is a pain. AZ>No doubt about that; it's only page after page of character tables. >But, and a haunting but it is, the Spirits Dee dealt with gave him >to believe that it contained all the knowledge and power that a man >might ever need. Aren't there some equivalents of the Calls associated with Logaeth? Or are those extracted from the tables? * SLMR 2.1a * How do I get OFF this planet?? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: Vitriol 8 Aug 92 13:53:06 Subject: Re: Mag_text.zip UpdReq VI>That's not a bad idea, considering that I know of four different >systems (counting the Octal -- where did that one come from, anyway?) Heh. I made it up. I was looking at the A.S. numeration one day, and it just popped into my head that since there were 21 Angelic letters, and 21 = 3 times 7, it might be interesting to create a gematria that covered exactly three orders of magnitude in a number base. Hence Octal, which does that. I've never gotten anything useful out of it, but wasn't expecting to, since it's as arbitrary as the A.S. system. I don't think we're ever going to come up with a good gematria for Angelic until we discover what the real attributes (if any) are of the letters. I hear there's some attributes (and some numeric values) given in Dee's notes, but haven't ever seen them. * SLMR 2.1a * Did you expect to find words of wisdom here? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: Markie Chao 8 Aug 92 17:51:10 Subject: Coffin cars UpdReq MC>Well, I tried. ;) I guess it's a 5' 10" size car...but at >least my feet can move around! If you really want to give someone cramped feet, convince them to get a Toyota mini-van. The driver's side wall curves around until it ends right next to the pedals. One has a choice of placing the left foot flat on the floor (thereby jamming the knee into the steering wheel) or twisting the foot around to brace against the side wall, putting it in a state of continual strain. * SLMR 2.1a * Five tons of flax! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: Amazon Lil 10 Aug 92 18:02:10 Subject: Dark, dark and dusty.... UpdReq AL>Big men are a challange...we all want to see if they are as >big on the inside as they are on the outside... Hmm. Sounds like Dr. Who's Tardis ... bigger on the inside than the outside. AL>(I could be >crude here..but you have met me, and there is no need!) >Lil Oh, by all means be as crude as you like -- as long as you don't do it in the street and frighten the horses. Frightening the cows is OK. * SLMR 2.1a * Scratch a conservative and you will find a feudalist. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: Amazon Lil 10 Aug 92 15:34:12 Subject: Dark, dark and dusty.... UpdReq AL>Amazon Lil tips back her black hat and saunters up to the >bar. "Pardner,'round here we punch our sacred cows!", she >drawls. Maybe it should be made a requirement that AZO-ites use cowchips for ammo when playing "Sink", and give the Sinked objects cowboy names. "I sunk the O.K. Corral!" * SLMR 2.1a * Kirk, Spock, & McCoy are a cardinal t-square. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 10 Aug 92 15:04:14 Subject: A Real Programmer... UpdReq TM>oh, you worked for at&t too? :) No, thank the Gods! Big-corporation bullshit turns me into a berserker. But the software biz isn't that different anywhere. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. * SLMR 2.1a * Five tons of wax! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 10 Aug 92 15:35:16 Subject: Bate Cabal Info UpdReq TM>i've got a friend just like that. she's spozed to get married next >week, so i expect her to show up by the end of the month for the >wedding, if at all. (imho, sags should never get married.) Heh Heh. I've got a friend Bob who's always so late for appointments, dates, parties, etc. that we invented "Bob Time" just for him. Subtract three hours from the real starting time when you tell him, and he'll get there right on time. * SLMR 2.1a * Moderation causes Deficiency of Excess 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 10 Aug 92 15:10:18 Subject: continued... UpdReq TM>oh no, another one. i'm surprised to see several sags here on >darkside, youse guys must have scorpio ascendants or something. :) >___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 Actually, Sag's born in certain years have strong aspects to Pluto and Neptune. They turn our philosophical natures in the direction of the underworld (Pluto) and the hopelessly mysterious (Neptune). * SLMR 2.1a * "Legitimate government" is an oxymoron. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Night Side To: The Moonshadow 10 Aug 92 15:14:20 Subject: Star Trek cabala UpdReq TM>|JN> couple of centuries from now. Spock is a Capricorn by nature, and McCoy >|JN> is an over-emoting Cancer. Usually the Cardinal Cross is completed by >+--------------------------------------------------------------------------- TM>well, i've known a few mccoy-like self-righteous sagittarians! (of >course, *you* dont fit into this category...:) Hey now, what is this? Dump On Sagittarians Week? * SLMR 2.1a * Does Atlantis have the Buddha-nature? Mu! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Shadow Mage Area: Night Side To: Waddy 8 Aug 92 15:01:00 Subject: Test UpdReq > You exist! > Surprize! :-[ <==== a vampire face > But are you actually posting messages, or are you mearly > "real" in someone else's reality. > Inquiring minds may want to know.... Yeah, mine especially, I keep having this amazing thought that i'm living a cliche. Shadow..:) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Shadow Mage Area: Night Side To: Markie Chao 8 Aug 92 15:02:00 Subject: Test UpdReq > It is now confirmed that you are indeed a paranoid apparition > of yourself, imagined only in your fictional mind. Now back > to our programme... Thanx for the Feedback... Long time no speak, last time I had the link up you were writing a book or summink Hows it going? Shadow..-><- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Amazon Lil Area: Night Side To: Josh Norton 11 Aug 92 19:42:08 Subject: Dark, dark and dusty.... UpdReq I have just heard the report from the Summer Hawk gathering in NY...Heavy duty Bugga-Bugga magick.... Oh well, I guess if you like to play those games, or feel the need...I never did like any of those "slasher-Friday-The-Thirteenth-From-Beyond" type movies anyway.... Lil 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Amazon Lil Area: Night Side To: Josh Norton 11 Aug 92 19:45:22 Subject: Dark, dark and dusty.... UpdReq Hummm.....One must wonder if there is a moderator in this echo....so many fallen Cows...So many Fallen Beasts....If there is an offence to be made, I am sure we will do our best. Lil 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Amazon Lil Area: Night Side To: Jonathan Corwin 11 Aug 92 19:53:16 Subject: A question for discussio UpdReq Pardon me for butting in, but magick as a personal experience is secualr...as a "system" with "orders" and "grades" it can only be built upon what has come before. Once I was involved with writing a feminist Quabala...It was soon realised that the idea itself could not exist in a balanced form...It was scrapped. Lil 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Amazon Lil Area: Night Side To: Jonathan Corwin 11 Aug 92 20:06:16 Subject: Nox Theoria, In Defense of the Black ArtsUpdReq Ah...Perspective is everything....there are no absolutes. Nice ideas, but do you ever come out of your head? Lil 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Neuro Sonic Area: Night Side To: Miaren Avianna 10 Aug 92 23:57:30 Subject: Necrocomnicon? UpdReq Do you take the Necronomicon seriously, kid? Please tell me as I have asked elsewhere whether people have considered making comic book pantheons? Neuro- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Gerald Del Campo Area: Night Side To: All 11 Aug 92 23:40:40 Subject: herbal freedom UpdReq Greetings, Peace, Health, and Prosperity. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. There is a move in congress backed by the AMA, and several conservative parties sympathetic to the "War on Drugs" to prohibit the use of certain readily available herbs used in herbal medicine. The following letter can be captured and printed simply by hitting the "print screen" button on your computer. It is hoped that some of you will use your voting power and a 29 cent stamp to conserve your right to hal your body naturally. Please feel free to copy this for folks without computers, and please post this message on other echos as well; especially the Magick Plants echo. Love is the law, love under will. Gerald ___________________________ NAME ___________________________ ADDRESS ___________________________ CITY, STATE, AND ZIP The Honorable _____________________ United States Senator Washington, DC. 20510 RE: "Health Freedm Act of 1992", S. 2835. Dear Senator ______________________ Senator Hatch, R-Utah, has introduced a new bill, "Health Freedom Act of 1992", S. 2835. As a health conscious consumer, I ask you to co-sponsor this bill and work vigorously for is passage. I want the bill enacted because it will bring about less restrictive regulations that will allow me grater access to nutritional supplements and information about the benefits they provide. The new law will establish: 1. A broader deinition of dietary supplement, to include herbs and other supplements. 2. That dietary supplements are NOT drugs. 3. That dietary supplements are NOT food additives. 4. That truthful health information about dietary supplements is permitted. 5. That the FDA has no prior restraint authority on truthful labeling or advertising. Sincerely, _______________________________ ______________ SIGNATURE DTE ***end*** ... RPSTOVAL Oasis: Badges? We don't need no stinking badges! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Amazon Lil 11 Aug 92 18:39:48 Subject: The battery powered God AZO UpdReq AL> Does AZA give chocolate milk? If she is to be MY AL> goddess, she HAS to! Gee, I hadn't thought to try that out...of course she hasn't met AZO directly and is still in Maiden phase... Meanwhile, I took my own advice and started looking around Children's Palace the other day. There he was, the only one of his kind in a damaged box...but the god was ok so I bought him. Then I turned around and saw two more icons of AZO stuffed in with the stuffed animals...guess their protective boxes got shredded too. There were some other mechanical gods for alternate religions...but I had to have my own AZO icon. ;) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Miaren Avianna 11 Aug 92 18:45:28 Subject: Necrocronimiconominon UpdReq (Sorry, couldn't resist) MA> Just a side note to all of this: I haven't seen MA> the book title correctly spelled during this entire MA> The last part of the word, by the way, is "nomicon" not "nimicon" or MA> "comnicon." Unless you are misspelling it{ on In my case, it's a matter of lousy typing rather than spelling. I look at the keyboard while I type and don't catch the mistakes until too late. As long as we all know what we mean... MA> think most of the incantations look like MA> transcriptions of the backing vocals on old Beach MA> Boys and Beatles songs. The Sumerian bits, though, What a cool idea! Writing songs with Necronomicon lyrics in the background...or even foreground in some cases. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Shadowcloud Area: Night Side To: Grendel 11 Aug 92 00:56:02 Subject: Neuro Nauts UpdReq -=> In a magickal message to Shadowcloud, Grendel said <=- Gr> Oops!! Sorry about that. I got you confused with the Penis that Walks Gr> Like A Man (aka Tony Lane). I promise to behave... Gr> =) That's okay.. misunderstandings happen upon occasion.. :} See ya over in Cyber_Mage (see if we can get it going again...sigh...) B*B Glenn ... Grendel's tummy is a solar cell! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718