From: Turbator Area: Night Side To: Shadow Mage 3 Aug 92 08:44:36 Subject: Test UpdReq Yes, yes, we are receiving you; but, will we be able to relate with you? WILL LOVE 93 Turbator 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Turbator Area: Night Side To: Beernut 3 Aug 92 16:58:48 Subject: Blacks vs. the Cult UpdReq Beergut, B> If my Grandpa was alive today he would say(and I quote),"Ain't no B> Diffrence between the Cult and the Klan." What did your g'pa have against "The Cult"? I know that they've gone 'mersh,but that's no reason to associate them with the kkk. After all, it,s only rock & roll. B> First of all they both B> hide in shadows,Burn things, and are too scared of the B> Black Man to show there trashy,Ugly,Yellow belly, Head. B> Not to mention I've never seen a Cultist win a Boxing B> Championship. I have seen psalm singers (xtian fundies) burn books, music, O.B.-Gyn. clinics, and homes. YOU reveal the extent of your intellect by being so impressed by a boxing championship. I pray that the Loa will help you pull your head out of your preachers ass. Remember Jimmy Swaggart, Jim & Tammy, Jim Jones, and all those child molesting bible thumpers we hear about on the news. Talk about UGLY, They don't exactly fuck kids out in the daylight. Before you judge the beliefs of others, try turning your eyes inward. A BILLION Hindus can't be totally wrong. Now, since none of this will register on your dim dry-cleaned brain, take your ashamed-to-be-white-because-my-whole-families'-in-the-klan ass out of here, and take your "lord" and your bible with you. P.S. Jesus was well hung. B> in my Grandfather's Foot Steps and Clense the world. Cle_A_nse! Turbator 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Nachash Area: Night Side To: Beernut 3 Aug 92 15:36:10 Subject: Blacks vs. the Cult UpdReq Beerfart, 93. B> Not to mention I've never seen a Cultist win a Boxing B> Championship. Maybe not a Boxing Championship, but I'm wiling to wager that Papa Shango is the next WWF world champ. B> The First time the Klan/Cult came to burn B> a Cross in my grandpa's yard he beat the Shit out of B> everyone of them with The Holy Bible. I plan to follow B> in my Grandfather's Foot Steps and Clense the world. Cleanse the world? Well, seems to me that you better start by cleaning all that shit outta your Gramp's yard, unless, of course, you find it easier to follow dear ole Gramps footsteps when they are all smeared in shit. Follow your nose, it always knows! Hey, your Gramp's doesn't happen to be old Beelzebub, does he? What with ole Beelz'er being the Lord of the Flies.... Plus, the way you capitalize "Shit"... must be a holy word in your family arcana. Holy Shit, BeerFart! 93 93/93 NChSh 358 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Nachash Area: Night Side To: Josh Norton 3 Aug 92 15:58:20 Subject: Disk UpdReq Josh, 93. I received your disk last week and have installed the files on the bbs. Thank you very much for your time and trouble! The whole set has already been downloaded twice... so I can forsee that making your writings available through the electronic media will increase the distribution multi-fold. I have returned the disk back to you so you can pass it along to others.... Also, I will wlecome anything else you can come up with. Pass the word along to your other contacts within and without the Bate Cabal.... 93 93/93 NChSh 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Nachash Area: Night Side To: All 3 Aug 92 16:06:44 Subject: Night Side UpdReq 93! Here we go again.... First of all, I would like to thank Frater Almost for his most excellent job as interim moderator after Nick bowed out and while I was in the process of relocating to the bayou.... Thank you Nick and Almost! Secondly, this echo originates from Mumbo Jumbo Kathedral. It's ours and we do with it what we will. I trust everyone has enjoyed it all so far, and I trust we will see it continue to grow and improve. Lastly, the echo is now going to moderator-less. We all know how to be adults here as has been proved every since this echoes inception. The only thing that will not be put up with here is preaching of any sort. Also, try to stay within the topics this echo is dedicated to, although small infrequent deviations will be tolerated, as usual. Please keep a eye out for our new echo, Bahlasti. The echo will be an interactive, electronic version of Kali Lodge's _The Bahlasti Papers_, (which, I am sure, you all subscribe to, correct?). The main thrust of this echo will be magickal political activism. More details to follow... Thats all for now. Tolerance! 93 93/93 NChSh 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Arthur Rosene Area: Night Side To: Mark Krubsack 3 Aug 92 17:09:40 Subject: Typhonian Teratomas UpdReq --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Mumbo Jumbo Kathedral (666:93/93) SEEN-BY: 93/93 159/700 202/311 278/666 308/60 1000/1 2000/1 2604/407 9400/0 1 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Arthur Rosene Area: Night Side To: Mark Krubsack 3 Aug 92 17:11:14 Subject: Typhonian Terratomas, address UpdReq Sure, It's $5.00 + .90 shippng. Black Moon Publishing BOX 19469 Cincinatti, Ohio 45219-0469 Love is the law, Love under Will Arthur Rosene 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Chen Area: Night Side To: Markie Chao 3 Aug 92 17:48:58 Subject: Politics and Society UpdReq Oops... that was supposed to read:"Erotic psyche",not:"Erpsyche". Ta-ta. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Azoth Area: Night Side To: Josh Norton 3 Aug 92 18:13:28 Subject: Re: Enochian Lexicon UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. AZ> No, Josh. I wasn't joking, just imprecise! There really are 666 DISTINCT AZ> words in the Calls (plus the Aethyr names) in the Geoffrey James version. JN> Adding in the Aethyr names sounds like cheating to me. Why not add in JN> the 91 (maybe 92) names of the sub-Aethyrs while you're at it, and the JN> names of the Zodiacal Kings, and all the divine names from the JN> Tablets? They are as arguably "words" as are the names of the Aethyrs. Well, yeah, of course it's cheating....sort of.... };-] I threw the Aethyr names in with the Keys because they are all, one at a time, parts of the 19th Key, as if you didn't know. I'll add all those other names when I find time to type them in! Unfortunately, just typing them in isn't really good enough, when it comes to all those extracted names. I'm working on the coordinate tables of the Governors right now, which tie the Names to the Elemental Tablets, so that a change to the Tablet is reflected in the derived Names. Just pedantry, but potentially useful in exploring those versions of the Tablets prior to the final Recensa. From what I've been able to gather from the _True_and_Faithful_, the Tabula Recensa was handed to Dee on a platter, so to speak; Dee himself was not with Kelly when the latter 'obtained' it from Raphael (this is on page 15 of the Actio Tertia.) Now, that's just suspicious enough.... Ditto all those other derived names. I'm looking to end up with a simple set of C++ classes which describe the entire system, where everything derived is _really_ derived, from a base set of tables (Elemental Tables, gematria tables, sigil tables, word and meaning tables, extraction-model tables...) and a handful of relatively trivial member functions for hooking everything together. I started doing the thing with Borland, but I really don't like the BGI for graphics, so I put things off until I could get MSoft's Version 7, which gives me a little more latitude with the fonts and graphic bits. Your gematria database is somewhat broader than mine's likely to get (I have only rudimentary interest in Hebrew, for example) but I require some modeling tools for working with alternate gematria schemes and variant Tablets, so in my copious free time, I'm writing some. Have you done any work in that direction? JN> I agree that James has the best version of the Calls -- also of the JN> Tablets. Good scholarship. Now if someone could just tie the Keys to Logaeth.... Looks like the John Dee Society will (at last, and for the first time) be publishing it in a year or two, so that those of us with limited access to the British Museum and failing eyesight can get on with our work. Love is the law, love under will. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Azoth 3 Aug 92 19:25:58 Subject: Muzik UpdReq A> 93, Charles! A> I wandered into Tower Records today.... and wandered out with a pile A> of 'Sadness of Things'(Tibet & friends), 'Wound'(Autopsia), 'Paradise A> Disowned'(Lustmord), 'Sol Veritas Lux' (Sol Invictus) and a very A> curious piece called either 'Ain Soph' by Ars Regia, or vice versa, A> from Nekrophile, #381 of an edition of 500: recorded ritualizations, A> with keyboard accompaniment, and a jacket quote from AL I. 46, 47. A> Nice. Even my wife likes the Lustmord. Thanks for the heads up! A> 93 93/93 My pleasure! I enjoy spreading the "good word". Hehehe... I think you'll like Lustmord's "Heresy" even better than "Paradise Disowned". It is somewhat similar to Current 93's "The Sadness of Things". Both are fine for dark, dark rituals if you like/need musickal accompaniment. Ain Soph is an Italian group, and "Ars Regia" and other things by them tend to have an almost masslike quality -- something very likely to appeal to Thelemites. I have not heard Autopsia's "Wound". I was just turned onto them recently, and the only thing I've got is their "Death Is the Mother of Beauty" which I bought as much for the cover of the CD booklet as for the recommended musick. Buying a CD for its appearance is something I rarely do.... Everything by Sol Invictus is very similar, involving Tony Wakeford's slightly offkey chants. I like it all. You can always depend on them to deliver a steady similarity -- unlike Coil and Current 93, who vary radically from one CD or LP to the next. They're fine too even if unpredictable, but then I groove on surprises. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Waddy Area: Night Side To: Shadow Mage 3 Aug 92 02:18:50 Subject: Test UpdReq SM> If someone will please point in my SM> direction and confirm that i'm not just a paranoid SM> apparition of myself in this area by messaging at SM> me breifly, it would be apprectiated.. You exist! Surprize! :-[ <==== a vampire face But are you actually posting messages, or are you mearly "real" in someone else's reality. Inquiring minds may want to know.... ciao, Waddy 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Jonathon Blake Area: Night Side To: Josh Norton 30 Jul 92 07:30:22 Subject: Assistance Required UpdReq quoting JOSH NORTON To: JONATHON BLAKE ___------------------------------------------------------------------------ JN}>Jonathon: JN}> If you are a sysop for a BBS, send me your address and I'll send JN}> you a disk. If you're not, get the sysop to ask me, and I'll The Turtle Shell 404-814-0363 pcpursuitable << GAATL >> 2625 piedmont Rd # 56105 Atlanta GA 30324-3012 93 jonathon * SLMR 2.1a * Coming soon to an echo near you: The Turtle Shell 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Nachash Area: Night Side To: Vitriol 4 Aug 92 05:50:14 Subject: Re: Kali Lodge UpdReq Vitriol, 93. V> As you can see, no answer was attatched. :-( Msged must have burped! Why don't you ask Chen about visiting as she is hanging out in these cyberspaces now.... ;) 93 93/93 NChSh 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Q.A.A. Area: Night Side To: Grendel 4 Aug 92 18:59:24 Subject: Theatre Of Magick Sent UpdReq >Where is this article, you are referring to? It's the Article/Xerox/Book called _Theater Of Magick_. I picked up a copy from the local O.T.O. Camp. Not quite sure where you'd find it in your area. Frater Q.A.A. May the Cube be with you! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frater Q.A.A. Area: Night Side To: Beernut 4 Aug 92 19:04:16 Subject: Blacks vs. the Cult Sent UpdReq Beernut, I almost feel embarrassed to actually rise to your message, so I won't. I agree there is little difference between Cultists and the Klan. You've been running around all these echoes mouthing off Cultish propaganda though, so therefore I must assume that you consider yourself in the same boat. Do you not know your own spiritual roots? Might I suggest you invest some of your valuable time overviewing August Wilson's Prizewinning Plays? Perhaps _Joe Turner's Come and Gone_ for starts. If you don't remember, it was the evil white Holy Roman Empire, which enslaved the Blacks, and destroyed the Moors, and conquered the African Continent. The Sadistic Godforms of the White Jesus, showing his superiority. Here on Nightside, we discuss Technicle Aspects of Magick. The forms of magick and other topics of discussion tend to be scarier than the normal forms. We have Voudounists, Satanists, Setians, Cthulians, Atheists, Agnostics, Wiccans, and many other religious viewpoints expressed. Our goal is to explore those areas of the Psyche and Magickal Universe which tend to be viewed as Shadowy, Romantic, Gothic, Twisted, Psychotic, Dangerous, and out of the normal "Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!" setting of traditional Osirian Magickal Techniques. This may include essay's on serial Murder to calling forth The old ones, to Creating a pantheon out of horror fiction novels, etc..... This area is also used to view opinions and ideas relating to these topics, subtopics which spin off from these areas, to music of a dark nature and even general Chit-Chat and Humor from regular users of this board. I assume you have now taken your time to waste on this board because they kicked you out of Base Of Set and The Oasis. Perhaps I'm being to curt in my judgement. Hey man, if you're a happy Black christian, that's great. As has been discussed on this echo prior to your Data Flatulation. Many of the Magicians in this area find Black Baptists and similar Spiritual Assemble Lines, to be some of the most inspiring and Motivating Energies. Hell Ya'll Really know how to party. If you got Soul, Why classify and contain it? Why not Explore its depths and find out what is really inside. why not commune to your H.G.A. or your Xepher, or the Loa or even have a sit down with Jesus. But whatever you do, I doubt any of us care to have your Pre___conditioned__ viewpoints shoved down our throats. And if you are doing it just to make conversation, take it elsewhere we just finished fussin' with the fundie Pagan's (yes there are such a thing). I don't want you to echo my beliefs, I doubt anyone on this board is out to "Make You" convert to theirs. So Enjoy the company and intelligent conversation, or take a hike. Remember the Thelemites and Setians which you may be attempting to attack with your viewpoints, are taking their beliefs of their own volition. And thier faiths just happen to originate from Africa itself. Have a happy day! May the Cube be With You! Use the Force Luke! Amn Ho! Frater Q.A.A. C--------- I---------- L--------- L---------- My land lord! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Turbator Area: Night Side To: Markie Chao 4 Aug 92 10:19:20 Subject: Politics and society UpdReq 93! Of course the sheep need to wake, its just that we've been trying for so long, that I am ready to to try a more "intensive" form of "stimulation"; unfortunatly, the ways I keep thinking of are mostly felonies. Any suggestions (other than: talking to friends/strangers,ranting, in an artistic manner, or otherwise, protests, and the like), would be greatly appreciated. I can't wait till I can crash funni, I mean fundie ;) bbs'. WILL LOVE 93 Turbator 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718