From: Celfara Area: Night Side To: Frater Almost 15 May 92 07:40:48 Subject: Re: RE: WET MAGICK UpdReq This is as emotionally charged a subject as anyone is liable to find these days. Like any such subject it will boil down to a matter of personal choice. Though I agree with Bobby and Myerra in their concern for others. I also agree with Frater Almost when he states that as long as everyone involved KNOWs of the risks it is their choice. . Every one of us is responsible for our own actions. I cannot concieve that any adult living in the US today is not fully aware of the danger posed by AIDS and the concept of safe sex. If inspite of this they choose to put themselves at risk -- it is their right to do so! As for magick effecting AIDS. I believe it cannot help but have a positive effect. I feel that any form of sex magick is inappropriate because of the inherent risks. Their are many other ritual forms that can be just as effective that do not require tempting others to dangerous behavior. But as I stated above it is the choice of the participants. Bright Blessings 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tim Maroney Area: Night Side To: Frater Almost 15 May 92 09:21:38 Subject: RE: Re: WET MAGICK UpdReq If you believe sex magick can cure AIDS, then you are a dangerous lunatic and no sane person should have you as their bed partner. (Or kitchen table, or trapeze, or whatever.) Pax. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Bobby Meizer Area: Night Side To: Frater Almost 15 May 92 11:40:02 Subject: RE: Re: WET MAGICK UpdReq In a message to Bobby Meizer written on Thursday, May 14, 1992 at 21:56:56, Frater Almost writes: FA> Live your life. If you have AIDS, then of course you must respect your FA> partner FA> and tell them of your AIDS infection but, if the two of you choose to have FA> un-safe FA> sex, then so be it. AIDS is not a death sentence any more than FA> breathing is. You should have said this in your original message which merely said that sex magick can cure AIDS; at least that way you wouldn't have been egging on delusional HIV carriers to rationalize not telling their partners because "my sex magick will protect them". Still, even those who knowingly and willingly engage in unprotected sex with HIV carriers have the responsibility to inform any of their other partners that they have been so engaged, whether or not they themselves have tested negative. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Eric 16 May 92 09:03:44 Subject: Re: DARK MUSICK Sent UpdReq Excellent message! No, I don't mind anyone at all answering any of my messages whether critically, with interpretations or with further info. Someone recently recommended the CD soundtrack for "The Last Temptation of Christ", for example -- something I never would have chosen randomly in a hundred years. It turned out to be excellent -- a superb capturing of the desolation of the desert and spiritual agony, and I really grooved on it even though I normally don't care much for musick with much of a Middle Eastern flair. What piece were the lines you quoted from? Current 93 is so varied -- from the noise of post-industrial musick that typifies that genre and is present in much of their work, to the dark beat of "Crowleymass" (the version on the LP rather than the CD remix is my favorite), to the lyrical reading in "Sveinbjorn Beinteinsson -- Edda", to the deep, dark emptiness of "The Sadness of Things", to the strange "Tantric Chant of Tibet", to the New Agey "Harry Oldfield -- Crystal". The variety is endless.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: D.S. Mandrake Area: Night Side To: Eric 16 May 92 21:10:02 Subject: HYPNO-GETSURES UpdReq * Quoting Eric's Message to Theseus : EE> I wanted to ask , are you a Mandrake fan by any chance ? EE> -= Mandrake the magician being an early comic strip EE> character who would make 'Hypnotic Gestures' making EE> strange things appear to be =- EE> ( And a sharp dresser at THAT! ) * AHEM! * Thank you for the compliment! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Tau Ursa Area: Night Side To: Tim Maroney 16 May 92 23:23:04 Subject: RE: Re: WET MAGICK Sent UpdReq My..My...My such angry from such ignorance. Do you have first hand knowledge that MAGICK can't cure Aids. I do have to agree that Frater Almost is a lunatic...but, dangerous... I can't agree with that. Love you too! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718