From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Triple Six 24 Mar 92 20:43:54 Subject: Cos And "What A Satanist UpdReq |TS> Or you could always come to Oklahoma..... | |TS> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ hear hear. (or in the case of oklahoma, beer beer.) ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Gerald Del Campo 24 Mar 92 20:45:56 Subject: Dark Images... UpdReq |GD> me the same thing they told you: "Don't question the | |GD> Scriptures, remember we are not intellectually capable of | |GD> understanding such tgings of the Spirit". I interpreted | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ yeah, get this: i was once called a HERETIC because i claimed to understand what yahweh was doing!! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Theseus 24 Mar 92 20:46:58 Subject: Dark Images... UpdReq |TT> Yes, Catholicism was considered to be a cult. It wasn't | |TT> until I started seeing how OUR church was a "cult" by the | |TT> same definitions, that I began REALLY questioning what I | |TT> was being taught. | |TT> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ good for you. glad you found the right path for ya. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: All 28 Mar 92 17:25:00 Subject: Death UpdReq has anyone here ever done a pagan function at a funeral or memorial service? what kinds of ceremonies do you do to help the passage of the soul? i'm only aware of planting a tree & dedicating it to the deceased. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Glenn Sieb 25 Mar 92 17:26:02 Subject: Heya guys/gals! UpdReq |GS> I'm baaaack! | |GS> | |GS> (Better than ever, too.. ;} ) | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ so what are you doing on a strange board? :) i can't locate the bead shop by the firehouse in mo'town. what side of the street is it on? ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Fra.: Apfelmann 25 Mar 92 17:29:04 Subject: Ice Magick UpdReq |FA> he nearly is finishing a german book about "ice-magic"; I | |FA> don't know when it will be translated into english. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ??? does this have anything to do with hitler's world-creation "ice" theory? ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Markie Chao 25 Mar 92 17:30:06 Subject: Iot Rec'd UpdReq |MC> Picture a group like a fractal...always changing with | |MC> brances reaching out to new horizons. You have entered | |MC> "THE CHAOS ZONE"! | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ virtual reality!! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Triple Six 25 Mar 92 17:31:08 Subject: Iot UpdReq |TS> Spank me if you want to... Even if you don't want to. };->> | |TS> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ always glad to see a person who is into cheap thrills! ;) ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Star Hawley 25 Mar 92 17:32:10 Subject: iot UpdReq |SH> concerning earlier versions that would be great in an | |SH> occult tabloid if one ever existed, but I'm keeping my | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ what about "fate" magazine? ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Markie Chao 25 Mar 92 17:38:12 Subject: item of interest Rec'd UpdReq |MC> The Avon, Colorado town council resorted to a contest in | |MC> September to name the new bridge over the Eagle River, | |MC> linking Interstate 70 with U.S. 6. Sifting through 84 | |MC> suggestions (such as "Eagle Crossing"), the council voted, | |MC> 4-2, to give it the official name "Bob." | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ heehee! are they now going to rename the river "eris"? ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Jonathon 25 Mar 92 17:40:14 Subject: Jersey UpdReq |JJ> as far as changing reality is concerned, anything by Seth/Jane| |JJ> Roberts will provide you with the most help. | |JJ> | |JJ> i guess we could discuss this furthere here, or on another ech| |JJ> if you are interested. << i could even set it up as a new echo for| |JJ> pods >> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ an echo on changing yer reality? hmmm...it might work. are we also talking about "virtual reality" here? (i guess changing yer vr would not change yer actual reality, huh? but then, who would care?) ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Star*fire 25 Mar 92 17:44:16 Subject: Jersey UpdReq thanx for the info on $ spells. i will give the first one a try. because i've never had much luck doing magick while sexing. --- MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Charles Nemo 25 Mar 92 17:55:18 Subject: Satanism and Socialia UpdReq |CN> other unsavory methods. If fundies were truly "free" to | |CN> exercise their predilections, we'd have a totalitarian | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ they seem to be a lot freer to express their views than WE are! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Gerald Del Campo 25 Mar 92 17:57:20 Subject: Satanism and Socialia UpdReq |GD> Your kind of thinking is outdated. Blind patriotism is for | |GD> sheep and for people who have bred with family members. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ hahaha! but i don't believe i've ever seen a patriotic sheep. :) ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Charles Nemo 25 Mar 92 17:58:22 Subject: Satanism and Socialia UpdReq |CN> I saw just this last weekend that the U.S. has an internal | |CN> governmental document in draft form which seriously | |CN> proposes that the U.S. work vigorously to be sure that it | |CN> is the only Superpower in the future. VERY dangerous!!! | |CN> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ dont worry, it'll get buried on somebody's desk for the next couple of decades, just like everything else. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Charles Nemo 25 Mar 92 17:59:24 Subject: Scams... UpdReq |CN> thing. One day soon I'm going to name names, and then | |CN> repeat the truth-telling every month or so until they no | |CN> longer dare show their scummy faces on these echoes. | |CN> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ YEAH! YEAH! VOTE THE BASTARDS IN!! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Pete Bergin 25 Mar 92 18:02:26 Subject: Spell Books UpdReq just breathing properly helps a lot, too. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Frater Almost 25 Mar 92 18:04:28 Subject: Spell Books UpdReq |FA> situation... In other words, if I wanted to blow out a | |FA> light-bulb, it'd behoove me to pick up a hammer and smash | |FA> it as opposed to try to do so "telekinetically." Anyone | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ yeah, action is better than magick. magick is really a last resort when it comes to smashing light bulbs. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Dragon Master 25 Mar 92 18:06:30 Subject: Spell Books UpdReq |DM> Do you use Magick? Is it POSSIBLE to do something such as | |DM> levitate a pencil in mid air using MIND power? I am | |DM> looking for ANY way to learn such Physical magick, which | |DM> would prove to others that it REALLY exists, and CAN be | |DM> used. | |DM> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ look deeply into someone's eyes & tell them you are a vampire & have control of their soul. this is capable of manifesting instant feces. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Frc 25 Mar 92 18:09:32 Subject: Spell Books UpdReq |FF> Would you be willing to totally surrender the totality of your being to| +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ OH, YEAH!!!!!! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Dragon Master 25 Mar 92 18:10:34 Subject: Spell Books UpdReq |DM> Again, this may be related to telekinesis. I just thought | |DM> it MIGHT be REMOTELY associated with Magick. You may not | |DM> believe it can be done, but I do. I am going to start work | |DM> on the subject, and I shall let you know of any new | |DM> findings. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ please do! imho, telekinesis is a crock. --- MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Frater Almost 25 Mar 92 18:12:36 Subject: Spell Books UpdReq |FA> ridiculousness. Such feats as getting one's life in | |FA> control and maintining it at that level is, as we all are | |FA> certain, nothing short of miraculous. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ yeah, you got that right! nice post. thanks for yer musings. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Eric 25 Mar 92 18:14:38 Subject: The Sign UpdReq |EE> meaning of the Isignias in general . He made comments along the lines | |EE> it representing total anarchy and rebelion. A person going in any way | |EE> wish by not giving a damn . By defying natural laws themselves if need| +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ huh? he thinks chaos is not natural?? poor deluded puppy. ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: Static 25 Mar 92 18:16:40 Subject: TOPY contact UpdReq |SS> A couple of months ago, one of the Nightside users suggested I contact | |SS> in TX to get Ken Grant's Nightside of Eden; I did so and | |SS> "Coyote 50" of TOPY said he could provide it. Two months | |SS> later--nada. He has even ignored CERTIFIED mail. Perhaps | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ i'm not surprized---they all seem VERY stoned! ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Paul Reid Area: Night Side To: William Hunter 25 Mar 92 18:16:42 Subject: Wet magick UpdReq |WH> I hope Wet Willy doesn't stick. I'm so much more fun when | |WH> I'm slippery, and Sorer Eris is already calling me Silly | |WH> Willy, a name she THINKS I hate, but its delightful to have | |WH> a nickname........ | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ how about willie the weiner? ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Lady Byron Area: Night Side To: Balanone 28 Mar 92 16:11:04 Subject: Surprise! UpdReq B> Thank you. It was a surprise. How did you know / find out? B> Did Ipsissimus Lewis rat on me? A little winged demon told me. Actually, I read it in an old issue of _Trail of the Serpent_. Bon appetite! Lady Byron 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Night Side To: Paul Reid 30 Mar 92 19:11:02 Subject: item of interest Sent UpdReq PR> heehee! are they now going to rename the river "eris"? We can always send them the suggestion... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Diane Vera Area: Night Side To: Charles Nemo 30 Mar 92 19:54:26 Subject: Threefold payback? Sent UpdReq On March 28, you wrote a message titled "Threefold payback?" in response to Nemesis's March 11 message to me, "Re: ABRA-MELIN": . N > Carry on with your path, if you wish, but realize that your ultimate goal is actually the destruction of mankind. And that you WILL be payed back for the things that you do, Threefold, as the legend says. Think about turning back from this path, and you will realize many possibilities. . CN > Don't you think that the threefold payback might indeed be only a legend, much like most if not all of the xtian mythos? .Nemesis's religious beliefs seem to change rather drastically from one message to the next. At first, Nemesis gave the impression of being into an unusual form of Satanism. I was looking forward to hearing about it. I was really disappointed. .See also the message I'll be posting to All, below, on Phil Marsh and Tani Jantsang. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Diane Vera Area: Night Side To: All 30 Mar 92 19:55:26 Subject: Phil Marsh and Tani Jantsang Sent UpdReq Speaking of unusual forms of Satanism, has anyone here had any dealings with Phil Marsh or Tani Jantsang? If so, what are your impressions of them? I recently got a long letter from Tani Jantsang in response to my open letter to GREEN EGG which was printed in the latest ABRASAX. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Paul Reid 30 Mar 92 19:20:04 Subject: Satanism and Socialia UpdReq |CN> other unsavory methods. If fundies were truly |CN> "free" to | |CN> exercise their predilections, we'd have a |CN> totalitarian | PR> +------------------------------------------------------- PR> --------------------+ PR> they seem to be a lot freer to express their views than WE are! Yes, and just look at the mess things are in under their dominance! Imagine what would happen if they got to do things the way they'd REALLY like to do them -- burning of the books, suppression of free speech generally, spies in every neighborhood, a fundie KGB under a modern Cotton Mather charging into your homes under the slightest pretext. (I'll bet Bob Larson just LUSTS for the latter job. Then he'd have something to do besides writing nasty fiction, conning gullible listeners out of their hard-earned dollars, and damaging the minds of impressionable teenagers....) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Charles Nemo Area: Night Side To: Paul Reid 30 Mar 92 19:26:24 Subject: Satanism and Socialia UpdReq |CN> I saw just this last weekend that the U.S. has an |CN> internal | |CN> governmental document in draft form which |CN> seriously | |CN> proposes that the U.S. work vigorously to be sure |CN> that it | |CN> is the only Superpower in the future. VERY |CN> dangerous!!! | |CN> |CN> | PR> +------------------------------------------------------- PR> --------------------+ PR> dont worry, it'll get buried on somebody's desk for the next couple of PR> decades, just like everything else. PR> ___ MegaMail 2.10 #0 Don't count on it if George Bush gets re-elected, dies in office (remember that he's in his late 60's and has heart problems) and is succeeded by Danny Dumbass who is ever more eager to toady to his totalitarian-minded mentors.... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Bobby Meizer Area: Night Side To: Triple Six 29 Mar 92 13:52:48 Subject: der spiegel UpdReq I find your letters, posts, and method of operation childish, monotonous, crude and so utterly lacking in content that even your best attempts to interest me have failed miserably. You are such a child--not even man enough to carry on a meaningful exchange when I provided you every opportunity. But yes, the truth can hurt. As usual, your information is false. If you wish, I will post your letters publicly for all to decide for themselves. BTW, I suggest you get your act together, lest I post your name all over as well. Try me. I think your conduct here has done more to substantiate my statements than anything I could have done... I thought I made my opinion of your "magickal kindergarten" quite clear in my last letter. Once again, I will spell it out for you--I have absolutely NO interest in you or your magickal kindergarten. The papers I've seen from you are a joke! Yes, I was "initiated" via telephone. What about this embarrasses you? It would make little difference whether my Initiation was conducted via telephone, CompuServe, or mail--all that matters is my Attainment. I have kept quite busy over the years, w/ other Orders and my own personal work. Nor was I particularly impressed w/ the intellectual acumen of those who wrote me, yourself included. Were you friends w/ Spare, or Crowley? It's amusing to see you so caught up in such trappings, considering that you claim to be an adept. I think that those who are so caught up in the trappings are often making an attempt to substitute for real results. You seem to be reaching down deeper into the bag w/ each post, trying ever so hard to find something which might ruffle my feathers. Evidently, I _have_ struck a nerve. I'm curious about what manner of insecurity you must carry upon your back to be so emotionally involved over something I consider to be meaningless. Why do you lie? More importantly, what's your fucking point? It was _I_ who discontinued correspondence, as my energies have been devoted to more productive ends. I was hardly defensive. One need not be "defensive" when a fly is buzzing 'round one's nose--one merely kills it. End of matter. You, unfortunately, are far less able to "get the hint" than the average insect. Now you appear upon a public echo, jerking off for all to see and I would like to ask you one question, "To what end?" Did my letter hurt your feelings so? Does this mean you'll stop wasting my time? The reason I ask, is that I notice a bit of irony in that you are beginning to act like my ex-wife. She just couldn't let go either, poor thing. I'm sorry you take my rejection so personal. If one didn't know better, one might think you resemble a scornful lover. Grow up. You really do _not_ want my undivided attention. Thank you for the introductory patter; however, I think you could have spared yourself the effort. I'm not impressed but, by all means, keep trying. This "ritual" was written long before you were born. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718