From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: David Arnold 17 May 94 11:17:10 Subject: LYCANTHROPY UpdReq DA> AL> No, monotheism is the position that there IS only one Deity, and all > AL> others are false or evil. The position that says, "I believe in, and > AL> choose to worship, this one particular Deity," is called henotheism. DA>hmm, i stand corrected. you are right in your definitions. i've never eve >heard the word "henotheism" before. i guess everybody i've heard using the >word monotheism for years has been using it wrong. oh well, one more >exploded myth. :) I learned this one from my former High Priest (I learned a *lot* from him!). He has since reverted to Christianity, except that he is, indeed, a henotheist -- he acknowledges all the other God/desses, but chooses to worship only Jesus. (If you're out there in cyberspace....Hi, Fred!) SLMR 2.0 The Universe is a machine for making Gods... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Alpha Wolf 17 May 94 11:41:38 Subject: LYCANTHROPY UpdReq AW> AL> Try it with "live" drumming if you can! AW>I think that until Wolf finds a drummer he likes, or at least one that is >"non-threatening", this will be impossible... However, Wolf likes a few of >my friends and would not oppose them being present. Teach one of THEM to drum! AW>GoddESSes? Wow! Lucky you! heh ;-) Are you Wiccan? Have you ever heard of "drawing down the Moon"? (Not the book by Margot Adler; the ritual itself.) That's how I became acquainted with voluntarily surrendering control to Someone other than my outward personality. AW>Whenever Wolf and I join, i feel unbeatable, like I could challenge the >world and win. It has actually resulted in making me more aggressive and >intimidating, this much I noticed when my friend Peter (who wants to teach >me to street-fight) and my friends (the ones mentioned above who I wrestle >with) were sporting around with me... I didn't think I had hit Peter THAT >hard...? Wolf is always good for warriors... AW>But you're right, it feels good. I have never been high, so I don't know if >it's the same feeling, but if it is, I think I've found a better alternativ >(Say no to drugs! Bond!). I used to be a hippie...but "possession trance" is legal, cheap, relatively harmless (as long as you observe basic safeguards!), and a lot better for you than drugs. And the "high" can definitely be "higher". AW>We have agreed... He can have me when I am about to sleep, and I usually >stay awake in a bonded state from around 9:00 to way past midnight (except >on the weekends, too busy), and any time he and I agree is a good time. It' >working soo far, I wonder what would happen if I gave myself full time? I >hear that's not good for either of us... Alas, in this society, you'd simply be labeled "psychotic", and probably dosed with heavy-duty drugs until Wolf could no longer reach you. AW> AL> I'm rather noticeably math-impaired. AW>heh! Don't get discouraged! After all this time, I've gone beyond discouraged to resigned. If I need arithmetic done, I use a calculator; if I need math done, I ask my husband. SLMR 2.0 Cabbage that wilt shall be the cole of the slaw... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Urhla 17 May 94 11:41:42 Subject: Kitchen Witch UpdReq UR>Thats a great way to get a name. I like that you call yourself a techno wit >I am too. I know extremely little about how it works but i love what it doe >The majority of family works in TV. Its a tough world. The pressure seems >enormous. I worked in radio for a LONG time...I did a little sound mixing for TV once in a while, too. >So what kind of craft activities do you like to delve into? I truly conside >myself a kitchen\hearth\hedge witch. It feels cozy. Again I really like the >story of your name. The major thing I've done for the Craft is making "pathworking" tapes. I create a "sound montage" for the purposes of taking my companions on a journey of the mind. I use songs that fit the purpose (and the artists can range from Kenny and Tziporah to Metallica to Willie Nelson!); one of my skills has always been to fit songs together so that they "say" a great deal more than any individual one of them alone. I also use instrumental music and/or sound effects to enhance the spoken portions of the "trip" (usually my own voice, although I've gotten some announcer friends to contribute their talents occasionally...like when I really *had* to have a poem read in a male voice). When I play the finished tape, I don't have to stay anchored in "reality" in order to give my fellow coveners their "trip"...I can trance out and go right along with them. Paradoxically, I'm also somewhat of a "kitchen Witch". I bake a lot. I'm getting pretty good at it, if I do say so myself. (I'm a decent cook in general.) I also make "things"... physical objects to anchor various magickal workings. What these things are depends on what I'm doing. I made a house-protecting amulet by taking a basketry plaque, which happened to be a 5-pointed star (a "Christmas" star!), and decorating it with all sorts of symbolic objects that would have protective meaning for the person I was making it for...stuff like sequins in the shapes of crescent Moons, sunbursts, and stars, a ribbon arranged like a banner with protective Runes written on it, plus silk flowers, feathers, and all sorts of other stuff. It's hard to describe in print. I've done "Witch's bottles" (filled with seashells and pretty stones), jewelry, embroidered cloth items, knot-and-braid magicks, carving, sewing, you name it. All this while taking care of a husband, a teenage son, two bunnyrabbits, a psychotic orange cat, three goldfish, two cars, two computers, and a house... SLMR 2.0 Techno-Pagan and Proud! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Lightning Area: Mundane To: Lazarus Long 18 May 94 10:41:40 Subject: LYCANTHROPY UpdReq LL>Explosive myths are the best kind, David. TAGLINED! LL>... Miskatonic University...why study LESSER evils? Cthulhu For President! Why vote for the LESSER of two evils? SLMR 2.0 Never pinch a wizard on the butt... >RIBBIT!< 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Steve Wotherspoon Area: Mundane To: Albertus Magnus 19 May 94 17:59:00 Subject: Locke on Self-Defense UpdReq > You can delude yourself into thinking that you can have your > cake and eat it, too, but that doesn't make it so. funny thing about having your cake and eating it too usually falls into a coupla categories when it happens ie: once you've got the cake your too stuffed to eat it, or once you've got the cake it don't taste as good as when you first looked at it or, this cake wasn't worth the trouble now I got it or, this bloody cake is gonna be the death of me if I don't get it soon. ahhh....the art of delusion works both ways. ie for the person with the cake as well as the person who wants it so desperately :-) sort of like supply and demand. No free lunch rings a bell.... > Think what you want all you > like, that's freedom for you... but act how you like whenever > you > like and you'll soon find out what you can and cannot get away > with in regards to "the system". ain't life a bugger sometimes :-) but then life's like that. Cheers Steve 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: ARAIGUMA Area: Mundane To: LIANA 16 May 94 19:00:00 Subject: RE. KITCHEN WITCH UpdReq -=> Quoting Liana to Araiguma <=- Li> Spoose? What, is he part spud, part goose? ;) Ar> Well, he gooses me sometimes... Ar> And we do the "Celto-Slavic Poverty Diet" (i.e. spuds) some months, Ar> and if you are what you eat...(further musings on this topic re-routed Ar> to Merry Meat...) Li> Hahahahahahaha... ahem. How about Potato Buds? Just add water... Eeeeew. Ar> Yeah, they are pretty good. Maybe someday I'll forgive them for having Ar> that bookpress in their window as *decoration*. This offends my Ar> binder's sensibilities. I like to see them doing what they're made Ar> for, as long as they're functional. (I feel the same way about Ar> typecases used as bases for kountry-kitsch dioramas...I have some type Ar> that needs a place to live, thanks. And I loathe kountry kitsch with a Ar> pure blue flame of passion...)(but I digress, as usual...) Li> What on *earth* is Kountry Kitsch? Is that where ducks are painted on Li> everything and the color aqua and pink seem to ooze into everything Li> else? Pretty much. Cow motifs, egregious patchwork, cute little floppy eared bunnies in bonnets/frocks or overalls. I could go on, but you get the idea. Ar> Mmmm, I dunno whether it was 'cause I'm a tacky shiksa, or it just Ar> wasn't a good example of the genre, but I wasn't much impressed with my Ar> one sample. Li> Remind me to make you some kougle... there's many different kinds. Li> Potato kougle is typical, and my grandmother made a wonderful apple Li> kougle. Yum! I think it was the concept as much as the execution that I had trouble with. I have peculiar food prejudices, I admit it. Araiguma ... Blonde Klingons: because it was a good day to dye. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: ARAIGUMA Area: Mundane To: MIKE SINCLAIR 17 May 94 01:23:00 Subject: A quibble UpdReq MS> Kayla, I am not the least uptight about _any_ of this. Somewhere I did MS> say I get tired of homosexuality being promoted, exalted, paraded. MS> Heteros just don't do that. It simply is not an issue. It is (IMHO) MS> the homo who in frantically trying to justify their position causes MS> all the fuss, who flaunts, parades etc.etc. I get fed up when people MS> make an issue out of a non issue. Do *you* try to *justify* your MS> sexuality. You may argue I did just that but that was not my My apologies for the intrusion into a conversation already in progress... Heteros don't *need* to flaunt, parade, promote, etc., since everyone is presumed to be one. It's the default option... :) Actually, all of mainstream culture (arguably) flaunts heterosexuality. It's a little difficult to see a place for oneself in the culture if one doesn't conform to the hetero norm. That is one purpose of "flaunting, parading, promoting..."--to make the presence of alternatives known to interested parties. It also ties into another problem, that of invisibility and its attendent problems. It's easy to hate an abstract, somewhat harder to hate a person. Part of the rationale behind parades, coming out to people, and so on, is to put some faces onto this amorphous "lavender menace"--to alert people to the fact that gays aren't alien monsters, but are co-workers, sons, daughters, cousins, veterinarians, garbage collectors, and so on. As far as "making an issue out of a non-issue", I would submit that one's sexual orientation will only be a non-issue when it does *not* mean being beaten up, killed, losing one's job or the custody of one's children, or being barred from certain careers altogether. We do not yet live in such times. Araiguma ... Beware of all clothes that require new enterprises. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Diogenes Area: Mundane To: All 19 May 94 07:52:00 Subject: Letter To The Editors UpdReq (Copies of this letter were sent to the Seattle Gay News, the Seattle Times and the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. i'm cross-posting this message in Gay Pagans, Mundane and Burning Times. Apologies if this is not kosher.) dale trotter Seattle WA May 17, 1994 The Editor Seattle Post-Intelligencer / Seattle Times Fax number: (206) 448-8166 P.I., 382-6760 Times Dear Editor: In the late 1800's, a man named Scopes was charged by bigots of teaching heresy, of "threatening our youth, our nation, and our very way of life." Similar charges are being levied against homosexuals, bisexuals, Jews, African-Americans, Hispanics, Asians of all sorts, and any other person or group of people who do not fit the narrow standards of who is right and good for society, and who is not fit to live. A lot of attention has been drawn to the Citizen's Alliance of Washington, and their directly and indirectly affiliated sister groups (OCA, Coloradans for Family Values, etc.) and their struggles to win the right to persecute gays, lesbians and bisexuals, as a prelude to seeking legislation hindering the rights of the rest of the aforementioned groups, as well as anyone else they deem "unfit for society." This is not heretical rumor--i've sat through sermons wherein the preacher advocated the killing of homosexuals. (Whatever happened to "Thou Shalt Not Kill?") Please refuse to sign Initiative Petitions 608 and 610. Don't become a part of the same McCarthy-istic tactics employed by Colonel Brady in the Scopes "Monkey Trial", as portrayed in the book and movie "Inherit The Wind." This is not a question of "special rights." This is a question of religious intolerance, and the efforts of one small, powerful group of people to make America an EXCLUSIVELY Christian nation--which they, of course, will "purify for the benefit of all." Never Again. Never Forget. Sincerely, --dale trotter WinQwk 1.20 #0 Unregistered Evaluation Copy 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Urhla Area: Mundane To: Liana 19 May 94 16:49:44 Subject: KITCHEN WITCH UpdReq I want a house too! My garden is on my balcony. Id love to have veggies growing. Im not much of a gardener, I stick the seed in the earth and pray for the best. I also like growing weeds. They seem to grow a lot better than my other plants. Youre right about the instrument. I wonder what I would play. I think definitely a wind instrument. I do feel partial to recorders. Although sometimes I envision myself in a smoky bar, wearing a fedora and the coolest shades. Im on stage wailing the most intense saxophone solo. Then Id sing. My voice would be raspy, like Ive smoked 3000 packs of cigarettes, and Id bemoan my fate with the blues. "OOH Baby! Baby! Waah ! Wahh! Wahh!" Re: the banana bread you made that was bricks...Did you tell them that they were your special, ancient cookie recipe handed down by your great grandmother? Im trying your apple bread this weekend at a bar-b-que. If the banana bread is any indication as to how successful the apple bread is...It'll be a hit. Hope to hear from you soon, I enjoy your messages Blessings Urhla 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: John Machate Area: Mundane To: Farrell McGovern 19 May 94 14:31:36 Subject: RE: HAIL TWITS! UpdReq FM> fully, Stuck Up Stuffed Shirt. All you have to do is FM> stop listening to reason, think your Way is the only FM> Correct & Deity Approved Way, and go around telling FM> others that their way is wrong because of that. Oh, FM> and have a big ego, and be proud of it. I have the ego?? Can I be a semi-SUSS?? JOhn 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Lazarus Long Area: Mundane To: Ace Lightning 19 May 94 19:46:00 Subject: LYCANTHROPY UpdReq AL> LL>Explosive myths are the best kind, David. AL> TAGLINED! Grand! I've never been taglined before. Now don't tell me you've stolen this, also. AL> LL>... Miskatonic University...why study LESSER evils? AL> Cthulhu For President! Why vote for the LESSER of two AL> evils? Hahaha.....that's a good one. Of course, I don't think they could keep Cthulhu on the telly for long: the media would go insane. Hmmm.... Is there a Lovecraft echo? That would be fun. [ Lazarus Long earneson@ednet1.osl.or.gov ] [ BlaNet Coordinator 66:2000/0 PODNet 93:9307/0 ] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Rose Dawn Area: Mundane To: Mike Sinclair 19 May 94 04:19:36 Subject: Re: HI! UpdReq > What do you think ? Boisterous Tantric male seeks energetic > spiritual Yogini. I'm there, dude. LOL!! Just kidding, just kidding. ;> 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Gwenny The Pooh Area: Mundane To: Wizard 18 May 94 21:56:00 Subject: Greenhorse UpdReq While bumping down stairs, Gwenny the Pooh heard Wizard say: Wi> Carcenogens: foods, cigarettes, pollutants, UV radiation etc., now Wi> they think maybe sunscreens. Get out that long sleeved shirt and don't Wi> forget the hat! Warning: Living could be dangerous to your health. According to our local paper, they will start including a "sunburn" warning in their daily forecast....sigh....it's too late, I'm a crispy bear. Gwenny ... Any religion that rejects coffee worships a false god. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718