From: Jonathan Hutchins Area: Mundane To: Farrell McGovern 11 Feb 94 19:07:04 Subject: The Week in Death: Jan 23-29 UpdReq * In a msg of Tuesday February 08 1994 to Jonathan Hutchins, Farrell McGovern wrote: FM> The above message was found in the METAPHYSICAL FM> echo. The Metaphysical Echo is for *Magazine Style Posts FM> ONLY*. Sorry for responding to the =original= off-topic post; thanks for moving it to a more appropriate area. I don't usually even read the echo, don't worry about repeats. Jonathan. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: NINEVEH Area: Mundane To: SPIDER 8 Feb 94 13:12:52 Subject: Silent Lucidity UpdReq -> "Enter Sandman" came out around the same time as "Silent Lucidity" -> ..first the paranoid nightmares-are-inevitable POV of Metallica, -> then the gentle, dreams-are-a-magickal-world-let-me-be-your-guide -> message of "Silent Lucidity". -> I always thought that "Silent Lucidity" had a sinister undercurrent t -> it, like the persona's true motive was control instead of altruism. -> Maybe it's just me. Spider, I got a sense off "Silent Lucidity" that the guide is good and trustworthy, but the territory explored is frightening. However, a friend of mine had the same impression that you did, that the guide was trying to control. Therefore he was not crazy about the song. Nin 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: Mundane To: Dazzle 11 Feb 94 15:22:52 Subject: What the...? #1 UpdReq -=> Dazzle sent a message to Christeos Pir on 04 Feb 94 23:32:04 <=- -=> Re: What the...? #1 <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Da> Fantastic, truly, fantastic, Chirsteos. Glad to be of service! Nos. 2 and 3 have been put on line by now as well. And if you run across interesting stuff, just shoot me a Netmail post with the material. Love is the law, love under will. - Christeos Pir ... But thou givest not thy sap; thou fallest not. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Teejay Area: Mundane To: Diva 12 Feb 94 03:30:46 Subject: new*dinka*doo UpdReq Hey! Me again! Yes, gangster rap. But no, Mike wouldn't understand (at least I don't THINK he would). Mikey seems to keep himself insulated from that garbage, but whether it's a conscious or subconscious measure, I don't know. Probably the latter... I think it's part of his "big heart" defense mechanism. If he listened to that stuff, it woud sour his soul, and he would no longer be the cool, laid back, generous, loving guy that he is! In truth, people like him are very rare - they seem to have insulated themselves from the ugliness in the world, and are capable of seeing only the good (maybe with a bit of moderate seediness tossed in for spice). At most times, I think this is an asset. It really contributes to his being the friend he is. Meaning no disrespect ( you can tell him this if it ever comes up -we don't normally speak on such "deep" issues, y'know, with all that testosterone in the way), he has an 'innocence' that I really dig. Yeah, I'm cynical and jaded, and I know it, but Mike seems to bear up under the pressures of the world with a grace and dignity I could never attain. Opposites attract, huh?! I'd LOVE to pick U up [shit!! been tryin' for years!!], but (a) mixing is a tedious process which (b) t'aint worth squandering our too little time seeing each other in person on when (c) I wantcha to be dazzled and amazed by the finished product when it's finally complete, and besides, (d) oh, how the neighbors (read: SLM) would talk/gossip/whatever, if it suited their personal agenda. You follw, I hope! This does NOT mean I'm dissin' you! Paynes are supposed to be clear. Not drunk, obnoxious, resplendent in their ignorance, or loud. Clear. Resolutions? Yes I make them, but only because New Year's serves as a convenient time to reassas my standings on this ball o' dirt. Most of the time they don't last anyway... But you're right about the attempt at perfecting myself. What will be will be, and I shouldn't worry about it too much. I need a new friend. I've had these awful premonitions for the past year or so, but since everybody I know as a friend is involved, I can't talk about them with anyone. It's been bothering me... any suggestions? Friends don't grow on trees. You didn't know my childhood was odd? Sheesh, girl, look at the finished product!! Maybe over a bottle of Cordon Negro at the res when it warms up...? Ah... dawn beckons, and miles to go b4 I sleep, yo. Say hi to all participants in your happy existance, 'till next we comm. L,TJ 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ali Katz Area: Mundane To: Julian 12 Feb 94 21:54:34 Subject: More Crystal Ripoffs UpdReq Originally from JULIAN to ALI KATZ in RUNES/ASATRU; cyberported to MUNDANE to avoid topicality-related castigation. J> Said Grand Illuminatus is, at least, not signing His posts 'Himself'. J> As we all know, that tends to lead to a regrettable proclivity for J> off-the-cuff stupid remarks about 'racialists', then using semantics J> to dodge the fact that the remarks are offensive and insulting...and J> failing to stand up and apologize like for His mistakes like an J> adult. J> J> Hypothetically speaking, of course. :) Oh, of course. A decade and a half as a bit player in Uncle Sugar's Floating Circus taught me that Maximum Leader types universally subscribe to the old British Army dictum -- "Never apologize, never explain." Tap-dance, obfuscate, mumble, play Musical Definitions, and/or counterattack. In extreme cases, ignore the issue entirely. But *never* apologize. Admission of human fallibility imply weakness, and a rival might exploit that. Hypothetically speaking, of course. :) PL&M, Ali * Freddie 1.2.5 * 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ali Katz Area: Mundane To: Valkyrie 12 Feb 94 21:54:36 Subject: More Crystal Ripoffs UpdReq Originally from VALKYRIE to ALI KATZ in RUNES/ASATRU; cyberported to MUNDANE to avoid the Wrath of the Moderator. V> Feel free, Oh Grand Illuminatus...it must have been a result of the V> great "Ordeal" which left me seeing double..and triple. Oh, no need to do so now; the High Priestess has speedily corrected her own grammar, and the momentary lapse was doubtless an aftereffect of the Ordeal. In fact, congratulations are in order, for she has cleared one of the most grueling obstacles on the Anglo-Atlantean Path. V> Are you sure you are not manifesting in Dumzeilian "triplicity?" I think not, for I have not begun referring to myself as "We." V> AK> (Oh, well, at least he doesn't call himself "them.") V> V> Or "Himself" . Perhaps in the future we should refer to you as V> "You.who" evoking the multiplicty of the second-person address. Of course, the Second Person is not always at home, but he does maintain a contractual relationship with a reliable forwarding service, operated by Sea Siblings who dwell in the shifting triangular shadows of the Sunken Pyramid of Atlantis. V> Oddly enough, the publisher of the interesting magazine which offers V> a possiblity of publishing such enlightened material on "runes" is V> located between the other two perpetra..oops...High Ones. Say what? :) PL&M, Ali * Freddie 1.2.5 * 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ali Katz Area: Mundane To: Valkyrie 12 Feb 94 21:54:40 Subject: Confusing, Isn't It. UpdReq V> (F)requently (A)sked (Q)uestions. I *kept* asking people what they V> meant by that term...I guess they thought I was joking... I found it V> explained in a book on InterNet. Thanks! Y'know, one of these days I'll get on Internet somehow. Your remarks on the esoteric meaning of that particular Space Rune combination were so astute and insightful that I can only express my awe. PL&M, Ali * Freddie 1.2.5 * 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Medusa Area: Mundane To: Stella Maris 12 Feb 94 17:13:08 Subject: Psychotherapy UpdReq I love Virginia Satir....I have read "Peoplemaking", and something else by her...I'm in social services with my eye on psych grad school...what do you do? And whoelse do you like? I have been enjoying the "Dance of...." books lately. Medusa 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718