From: Dragonrider Area: Mundane To: Melizand 9 Jan 94 13:19:00 Subject: No return calls from MD UpdReq Have you thought about calling your insurance company and complaining about your doctor? Sometimes, just the threat alone is enough to get better care. i've walked out of my doctor's office because I was kept waiting too long. I am said to be a very, very good patient; but I don't like my patience to be abused. Even my dentist says I'm a good patient . ... This tagline is made just for Melizand 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Dragonrider Area: Mundane To: Kettlingurr 9 Jan 94 13:24:00 Subject: Re: that stupid printer UpdReq Still waiting for Windows 3.1? Why wait? Why even have it? I got it because I was used to a MacIntosh but switched to IBM. Windows is ssllooww. I, now, rarely use Windows but have a DOS menu program that simluated Windows wonderfully. Why do I still have Windows? Quicken and Microsoft Works. That's about all I really used Windows for and rarely on the Works. ... We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kettlingurr Area: Mundane To: Static 9 Jan 94 23:48:32 Subject: Re: Heyokah is back UpdReq -=> Did you hear what Static said? St> Hello.. I am back.. Just saying Hi! I gotta run! Bye St> Frith! St> Heyokah COOL! Come over into my echo & post a message for Tilt; she is asking about Norse stuff over in *covenstead*. :> Thought of you when she started posting that....... Kettlingurr ... All men are created equal. Poor things. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kettlingurr Area: Mundane To: Ace Lightning 9 Jan 94 23:55:20 Subject: what, thunderstorms? UpdReq -=> Did you hear what Ace Lightning said? AL> But it's good to know you're recovering. BTW, the same weather system AL> that gave us an ice storm appears to have given you some more AL> thunderstorms. (I watch The Weather Channel a lot.) Hey, send me some, AL> willya? Kat generally works within her own area..... *I* (not bragging, just emphazing) tend to work a much broader area. You want thunderstorms or thundersnow? (That's what happened *here* last March.....and left us with 21 inches. I've never seen THAT much snow before then..... :) Let me know so I can see what I can do within Gaia's plans here...... seems that you're not the only ones getting storms; check out Europe. They got flooded...... Kettlingurr ... if it's permanent press, why would you? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Herb Mitchell Area: Mundane To: Farrell McGovern 8 Jan 94 23:58:04 Subject: Metaphysical UpdReq Hello Farrell! I've noticed Metaphysical is getting rather chatty and cluttered of late. Would you mind reposting the Triad Rules again? Thanks! Herb 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Julian Area: Mundane To: Silveroak 10 Jan 94 03:31:00 Subject: Kansas UpdReq SI-> Actually, I grew up in Kansas, and knew about the Mullein Torch as SI->well as the clinics- I helped defend them in 91 and 92 (and when I had time SI->in 93- and here it had seemed to be practically over with!) I checked at th SI->Torch, and no new on boards- though there are drummings on fourth Fridays. SI->Where abouts do you live? Pagan friends seem to be very scarce in Wichita SI->(though given some events I can't say that I blame them!) Whereja grow up? I used to live in Hutch. Now I live in Seattle and pine for the burning heat, stifling humidity, and merciless icy winds of the prairie. I don't know any Witchita pagans but I bet you'd find them through the Torch, especially if you're known there. -- Julian (Internet: flint@eskimo.com) * OLX 2.1 TD * Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Merry Tyler Moore. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Julian Area: Mundane To: Kat 10 Jan 94 03:34:00 Subject: Weather :> UpdReq KA-> Especially when the dam is lit up with the colored floodlights when th KA->open the sluceways. Do they still do that these days? I remember we used KA->go out to see it at an overlook when we lived there. Haven't seen that. There are a lot of dams out here, though, and the implications come through once in awhile. I was up in the Skagit Valley a couple years back picknicking and wanted to go down into the canyon, when I saw a kind of chilling sign basically saying: "CAUTION--DO NOT GO DOWN INTO CANYON--SLUICES ARE OPENED WITHOUT WARNING". Jeez. -- Julian (Internet: flint@eskimo.com) * OLX 2.1 TD * "For they are a rude, barbarous and naked people..." 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Swift Lightning Area: Mundane To: Pirate Jenny 10 Jan 94 17:33:00 Subject: Memory UpdReq Hi! PJ>And, our comp is no longer broken, but we seem to be stuck with 640K >RAM, when we have a meg installed, and we're trying desperately to >figure out why! Try getting into your BIOS setup and turning off or disabling any "Shadow Video BIOS/Shadow RAM" options and see what happens. I have 1 meg as well...when I turn these things on, the computer only counts to 640 on power-up, but when I turn them off, it goes all the way to 1024. If just DOS won't find it check the himem.sys etc drivers....I hope this info helps! SWIFT LIGHTNING strikes again! * SLMR 2.1a * Giant six-foot inflatable lizards? Where do I get one? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: melizand Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 01:49:12 Subject: MOre Jersey Rocks UpdReq From: melizand@brewich.hou.tx.us (melizand) Newsgroups: pod.mundane Subject: MOre Jersey Rocks > This particular conversation started on the topic of rocks and > semi-precious gemstones, in an occult/Pagan context. How does your > geological background interact with this particular facet of magick? I'd > be fascinated to read your opinions about this. I'm still of two minds, conflicted and paradoxed. ON the one hand, I see *everything* in the earth as embued with life spirit, and it makes it much easier to do my work; on the other, knowing as much of the technical stuff as I do (although I have to say my minerology and petrology are close to 15 years out of date except for the stuff I work with all the time...how shameful! ), it makes it *very difficult* to swallow a lot of the stuff I see about crystals and rocks. Particularly the 'Atlantean computer' business--what they're attributing to Atlantean carving is actually a microcosm of the macrocosm of crystalline structure within the mineral itself; by that I mean that the little do-dahs on the mineral surfaces of quartz that have those neat semi-regular shapes are a result of the basic chemical structure of the mineral, and have nothing to do with any other kind of explanation. But then, I turn around and see in the crystalline structures of minerals the very essence of life, similar to that which a biologist sees--the more you study, the more miraculous it is that it exists at all. Then, getting off onto the cyclicity of earth systems is a *huge* other category, and I could wander off on that tangent for days (stop me before I lecture again! Oh Nooooooo....) Lynna Landstreet got me to thinking about writing about it, and I'm still mulling it all over; how it all relates, and how to explain it in mystery terms that are also understandable. I've been thinking of applying to do a seminar at the Ecumenicon this summer: Understanding Gaea: Earth Processes, Cycles, Science and Spirituality. What do you think? Right now it's just a title that came to me as I was drifting off to sleep (that's when the best stuff happens ,) but I think I could do some really nice stuff with it. Go into a technical discussion of how the cycles work (for instance, intro to plate tectonics, or the hydrologic cycle) with enough background to do some serious eco-activism, and follow it up with guided meditations getting into the feel of that particular system on a spiritual plane... Mel ------------------ melizand@brewich.hou.tx.us (melizand) Origin: The Brewers' Witch BBS -- Houston, TX -- +1 713 272 7350 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: melizand Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 02:05:02 Subject: More Jersey Rocks UpdReq From: melizand@brewich.hou.tx.us (melizand) Newsgroups: pod.mundane Subject: More Jersey Rocks > Me too! I am by no means a professional on your level Melizand, > but I do have some formal training in the area of geology. Sed Pet > was my favorite! As I am also as interested in plants and some of > the biological forms that run amok upon the face of this place I call > home. So please! Feel free to give me lessons! What is your direction? > Are you a 'specialist' or more generalized? > ... Minerology was my downfall........grumble grumble..... > or was it the prof? > I work for a major oil company in international exploration. We figure out where to put the wells. I hated mineralogy, and graduate optical mineralogy was worse (although measuring stuff with immersion oils was neat--no one has done this other than in school for 30 years though). Mineralogy profs (and if I'm lucky, there won't be one reading this ) are generally pretty awful. My area of specialization is sequence stratigraphy, which is basically figuring out how sets of rocks (for instance, visualize the area from the Appalachians to about 200 miles offshore in the outer banks, with all the differnt rock types) are related in time, and to the sets of rocks younger and older. The ultimate idea is to figure out the magic spot where you have a rock reservoir (usually sandstone or limestone) that has a seal (something impermeable on top and/or sides), a nice little pocket for the oil to sit in, and a situation where oil could be generated and moved into the reservoir, all with the right timing. We have to basically puzzle out how things used to be, and how they changed with time. When I'm allowed to actually work, its a lot of fun. But I spend *way* too much time doing paperwork and Total Quality Management BS. Mel ------------------ melizand@brewich.hou.tx.us (melizand) Origin: The Brewers' Witch BBS -- Houston, TX -- +1 713 272 7350 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: melizand Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 02:14:50 Subject: WEATHER :> UpdReq From: melizand@brewich.hou.tx.us (melizand) Newsgroups: pod.mundane Subject: WEATHER :> > "Arizona" or some simlar place for my allergies...but then again, I can see > it...we are talking about "asthma" not simply allergies. For just allergies, > kinda makes sense...but no for asthma. > > ttyl > Farrell My mother, when living in Phoenix, said that it's become one of the great allergy capitals of the US. Seems as how lots of folks moved there to get away from allergens, but missed their grass and trees, so they planted them all over, and now have lots of problems with pollens. Sigh. Much sympathy for Kat... Mel ------------------ melizand@brewich.hou.tx.us (melizand) Origin: The Brewers' Witch BBS -- Houston, TX -- +1 713 272 7350 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Commander Barbarella Area: Mundane To: Farrell Mcgovern 10 Jan 94 10:49:32 Subject: Re: WEATHER :> UpdReq The Infamous RockSpy Network has exposed Farrell Mcgovern as having conversed with Commander Barbarella on 05 Jan 94 20:55:00: FM> Sudophed(rine) is of the same family as Actifed, and is FM> generally just a good sleeping pill, and does very little for my FM> allergies. Then again, I have been taking it since I was 5 years FM> old...the antihistimine that I am talking about is Pyribenzamine FM> (active ingrediant is Tripelennamine Hyrdochloride). Interesting FM> "high", but is about the only thing nowadays that works. Actifed has an antihistimine in it and thus the reason for the sleepiness. Sudaphidrine is a by-product of the ephidine plant and has no antihistimine in it. I only take any of it when I really need it. I've spent most of my life on drugs ranging from Quadrinal to Theophyllin (the Quadrinal was a yellow, anis flavored liquid. To this day, I can't stand the taste of anis.) FM> I am sorry to hear that. Virtually all of us have to deal FM> with such an event at some point in their life; please pass on my FM> regards if you chat with her before she see's this. She is back on so she should see your wish. I'll let her know though. FM> That is very true. I've always wondered about that concept FM> for going to "Arizona" or some simlar place for my FM> allergies...but then again, I can see it...we are talking about FM> "asthma" not simply allergies. For just allergies, it kinda makes FM> sense...but no for asthma. I guess it depnds on the type of asthma. I. unfortunately, have both the allergy and stress related types. I was watching the Women's National Figure Ice Skating Championships on Saturday and the winner is an asthmatic that after her routine she had a breathing treatment and it was stated on on tv that she would have an interview after she had had it. She did, but was still coughing during it. Maybe, some people will now realize, just how dangerous it really cam be. As far as Arizona, I think it was because the desert didn't have all the plants that most allergy based asthmatic were allergic to. That of coursed changed when the people started importing non-native plants to the state and cultivating them. Barb 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: David Arnold Area: Mundane To: melizand 9 Jan 94 20:41:58 Subject: Tell me why.... UpdReq Quoting melizand to All: > Yes, things will become more cost effective, but the problem with that is > that they'll become more cost effective at least in part because people > will be required to pay more. It's like anything else; if there's a lot > of demand for something (read demand as, willingness to pay for...)like > solar energy, then it eventually comes down in price as it becomes easier > to acquire. A myth that's hard to break. When people find that they "need" something badly enough (though the need is falsly induced by an industry's propaganda), the industry will RAISE the price, since they figure people will by it anyway, no matter what the price is. Sadly this is the usual practice, not the exception to the general rule. The reason why prices appear to go down on some products is not due to this myth of increased demand, but to a lowering of standards in manufaturing. Cheaper materials, cheaper assembly, obviously lower quality, but yes lower price. Again here is the theory of "people will buy anything if they think they need it"; unfortunate gullibles duped by an overbearing social/ economic advertising system. And though more cost-effective methods may be developed for an industry, that just means it will produce more; it's prices will not go down. After all, they have to pay those higher prices for the scientists and techies that developed the better method. But the key word here is still Greed. > At the moment, it costs way too much to put together solar > fields because the technology just isn't there. I don't know that that is true. I believe the technology is there, just overshadowed by the greedy oil companys' blustering you describe elsewhere in your letter. In fact, i think the technology has existed for several years, maybe even decades. The problem is just: who's going to fund this? Not the oil companies. They're scared of solar energy technology ideas. Would put them out of business right quick. Too difficult to convert to another system. But they will be forced eventually. Either when the oil starts to run really dry or when the Earth smothers itself and the atmosphere collapses or whatever catastrophe. Half the planet is already a trashed wasteland of sewage and death. Nice company you work for. Excuse me, my ire is coming up, i've no need to attack you, it's just all that irresponsible power abuse and greed and cruelty makes ME run dry. > [...] > And we are > importing over 60 % of our oil now, and have virtually no viable > alternative fuels. It's scary. The small operators *are* finding oil > and making it profitable. I expect the small development companies for > alternative energy sources will be the ones who will make that industry > come to life as well. Let's hope so -- i'm kinda beyond scared at this point. David 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: David Arnold Area: Mundane To: Gentle Friend 9 Jan 94 19:38:58 Subject: Questions Of The Week UpdReq > Merry Meet, > SM> 6. What does it mean when it turns blue? > Ka> > Ka> That you shouldn't eat it, of course! > Not if it is a mushroom. The deeper the blue, the better. Some mushrooms that stain blue when bruised are in fact poisonous and contain no psilocybin. Your statement is dangerously misleading by its over-generality. And also the deepness of the blue is not indicative of the psilocybin/psilocyin content anyway, and the general color of mushrooms that stain in this way is in fact a blue to bluish-green, not a deep blue. > I just got back from visiting Stella in KC. I think we should petition > for a > Stella Maris Echo. What do you think? Though i have no idea who Stella Maris is, i think it's an *excellent* idea, since this echo is supposed to be *read-only* and for magazine-type articles ONLY. Responses to articles here should be in another echo, though i admit on some systems it's difficult to cross-reply. > BB > Howard > * Origin: The Magick Lantern : Denver, CO : (303)759-5908 (93:9520/5.0) Schuyler Thompson, the sysop of this origin (aka Fidonet 1:104/654) should have this echo labeled as read-only please, including read-only to the sysop. Also this zone 93 address is not listed in the 1/7/94 Podnet nodelist, so if this is a new address and the sysop didn't know, please tell him. Thanks, A not harping just kinda picky sysop but good day anyway. :) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Lynna Landstreet Area: Mundane To: Adrienne 7 Jan 94 01:07:28 Subject: NAFTA & Health Care UpdReq A> Casts, etc. aren't covered either, but psychologists are covered if A> (and only if) they are a referral from your family physician or from A> a hospital physician. Welfare does not cover dental work. In Toronto it does -- some dental work, anyway. Welfare is a municipal responsibility, though, so I probably shouldn't have generalized from my own city... A> Starting this year, midwives are now covered under OHIP as A> well. There's been a huge hue and cry over the midwives who didn't A> pass the accreditation board and therefore are no longer permitted to A> practice, but I note it's the ones who failed who are screaming over A> how unfair it all is. Yes, but in many cases they're experienced pracititioners who've delivered hundreds of babies without any trouble, so it makes you wonder about the composition of the tests... Are they asking for things that aren't really relevant to the midwife's ability to do the job? ___ * Freddie 1.2 * If I repent of anything in this life, it will be my good behaviour. (Thoreau) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Claudanius Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 23:57:58 Subject: The Strecker Memorandum - Part 1 UpdReq THE STRECKER MEMORANDUM *********************** We have a story to tell you, a very strange story, one that affects you, me, and every other human being on earth. A story that must be taken seriously by the governments of every nation in the world because there may not be many humans left to govern by the turn of the century, or shortly thereafter. A story so bizarre, and so sinister that, if it were not for the fact that it is all true, it would make a great science fiction. (Interestingly enough, Lorimar Pictures of Hollywood has purchesed the rights to Dr. Strecker's life story.) The story begins in 1983 with Dr. Robert B. Strecker, M.D., Ph.D. Dr. Strecker practices internal medicine and gastroenterology in Los Angeles. He is a trained pathologist and also holds a Ph.D. in pharmacology. Dr. Strecker and his brother, Ted, an attorney, were preparing a proposal for a health maintenance organization (HMO) for Security Pacific Bank of California. They needed to know the long-term financial effects of insuring and treating AIDS patients. Inasmuch as this information was not readily available in 1983, both brothers began researching the medical literature to learn what they could about this relatively new disease. The information they uncovered right from the beginning was so startling to them, so hard to believe, that it would dramatically alter both their lives and lead them on a five-year quest culminating with the creation of "The Strecker Memorandum," the most controversial video tape of our time, and a remarkable set of documents called "The Bio-attack Alert." What They Discovered Right there in the medical literature for anyone to read for themselves was, basically, proof that the AIDS virus and pandemic was actually PREDICTED years ago by a world-famous virologist, among others. They found that top scientists writing in the "Bulletin" of the World Health Organization were actually requesting that AIDS-like viruses be created to study the effects on humans. In fact, the Streckers unearthed thousands of documents all supporting the man-made origin of AIDS. Meanwhile, the government was telling everyone that a green monkey in Africa bit some native and started AIDS. As their research continued, it became obvious from the documentation that the virus itself was not only created as requested, but actually DEPLOYED, and now threatens the existence of mankind because it does what it was designed to do: cause cancer in humans via a contagious virus. Eventualy the Streckers came to realize everything the government, the so-called AIDS experts, and the media were telling the public was not only misleading, but out and out lies. The truth of the matter is: * AIDS is a man-made disease; * AIDS is not a homosexual disease; * AIDS is not a venereal disease; * AIDS can be carried by mosquitos; * Condoms will not prevent AIDS; * There are at least six different AIDS viruses loose in the world; * There will never be a vaccine cure; * And on and on, but... The Scariest Part The most dreaded fear that all oncologists (cancer doctors), virologists, and immunologists live with is that some day cancer, in one form or another, will become a contagious disease, transferable from one person to another. AIDS has now made that fear a reality. If you think you are safe because you are not gay or promiscuous, or because you are not sexually active, then you must watch "The Strecker Memorandum" very carefully. [Continued in next post...] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Claudanius Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 23:58:22 Subject: The Strecker Memorandum - Part 2 UpdReq ["THE STRECKER MEMORANDUM" continued from previous post...] If You Plan to Have Sex Tonight You Had Better Read This The most common misconception being foisted upon us right now concerns sexually active Americans. We are told that if a man uses a condom the tranference of the deadly virus is virtually eliminated. Nothing could be further from the truth. Of the body fluids that the AIDS virus is found in, semen contains the least. As a matter of fact, in every single study ever published on the subject, no one has found a significant amount in anyone's semen. It just isn't there in huge numbers. There is usually only about one virus per millileter, a statistically irrelevant amount. One copious ejaculation might produce only one or two viruses. This is substantiated in the medical literature. But, just for argument's sake, let's say all the medical studies are wrong. Let's pretend that there are countless millions of AIDS viruses in the ejaculation. Are you aware that condoms are riddled with microscopic or larger holes? Studies show that even the smallest holes found in condoms are two to ten times larger than the AIDS virus. It's like shooting a golf ball through a basketball hoop. Condoms have not, will not, and cannot prevent AIDS. Thousands Already Dead Thirty thousand Americans have already died because they didn't know the truth about AIDS. Between seven and eight million Americans are already infected. One in 60 babies born in New York City is infected; one in 300 college students in America is infected; one in 20 aliens applying for amnesty is infected, including men, women and children. These are just some of the facts you are not likely to hear about from the media. Why A Video Tape? One of the first things the Streckers did was to try and tell their medical and legal colleagues what they were finding in the literature. Some where interested; most were not. Certainly no one was prepared to risk their professional standing by making waves within the establishment. Ted Strecker compiled some of the most damaging documents into a report he called "The Bio-attack Alert" and sent it to every governor of every state, the president, the vice-president (now ex-president), the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and selected members of Congress. He got a grand total of three replies from three governors; nothing from the federal government. Both he and Dr. Strecker were laughed at and ridiculed at every turn. As an example, Dr. Strecker told the government in 1985 that virtually every person testing positive for AIDS would die prematurely and painfully. The government said that was nonsense. Their figures showed that maybe ten percent at most would die from the disease. In 1986, the government said that maybe 50 percent of those infected would die; in 1987 they said maybe 75 percent; in 1988 they finally agreed with Dr. Strecker that AIDS is virtually 100 percent fatal. We could go on with facts Dr. Strecker unearthed that the "experts" said were wrong and are now accepted as the truth. Dr. Strecker, like a good scientist, submitted paper after paper with his findings to all the prestigious medical journals in America. They were refused. He then tried having his findings published in Europe. Again, closed doors. What to do? Dr. Strecker did not feel he could take the time from his practice and his research to write a book, On the other hand, everyone has a TV and now most households have a video cassette recorder (VCR). The time involved to make a video is nothing compared to writing a book, and so the video "The Strecker Memorandum" was created. It is 96 minutes of the most startling, controversial, and information-packed video you will ever see. It disputes everything the American public is being told by the government, the so-called AIDS experts and the media. In fact, after seeing it YOU will know more about AIDS than 99 percent of all doctors in America. [Continued in next post...] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Claudanius Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 23:58:46 Subject: The Strecker Memorandum - Part 3 UpdReq ["THE STRECKER MEMORANDUM" continued from previous post...] Music is Nothing if the Audience is Deaf With the video made, it seemed a simple matter to advertise it and the world would now become aware of what it was facing, right? WRONG! The fact that you are even reading about "The Strecker Memorandum" now is a minor miracle by itself, inasmuch as TV stations have refused to advertise it. TV and radio time brokers that sell blocks of commercial time have refused to sell them [Prevailing Winds Research] time. TV station manager have refused to even air programs containing interviews with Dr. Strecker. A national radio network did an interview with a famous talk show host and Dr. Strecker and then refused to run it. Virtually every big name network television magazine show and all the syndicated TV interviewers and talk show hosts have said NO to Dr. Strecker. Big city newspapers will not take any print ads telling about it, and so, it goes... WHY? What is in "The Strecker Memorandum" that sends a cold chill down the spines of most media executives? Why is Everyone Afraid of "The Strecker Memorandum"? They excuse that we hear over and over is that it is too controversial. TOO CONTROVERSIAL? They say that this information, if widely disseminated, will cause the public to panic. If someone had poisoned your water supply and you and your family could die, wouldn't you want to know about it? Would you panic? Or would you more likely be outraged and try to find out who did it and punish them? We feel the only persons who might panic are those scientists who willingly or otherwise created AIDS and are now promoting misinformation by covering it up. After all, if you made AIDS, would you tell anyone about it? Think of Your Family and Friends -- Now Think of Them Dead It may take a while before the words "species threatening" sink in, because the term has rarely been used before to describe an existing human condition. But once you realize the implications of that term, and realize that, unlike any other kind of disease ever known to man, past or present, AIDS can, if unchecked, kill every human on earth, then your outlook and attitude regarding everything in life must change. Whether you like it or not, and despite all your precautions, the time will come when you will test positive for AIDS, and it can happen much quicker than you realize. [Continued in next post...] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Claudanius Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 23:59:10 Subject: The Strecker Memorandum - Part 4 UpdReq ["THE STRECKER MEMORANDUM" continued from previous post...] It's Out There The number of AIDS-infected people is doubling approximately every twelve months, and in some areas even sooner. With seven to eight million Americans carrying the virus, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see how long we have here in the U.S. Africa has, conservatively, 75 million infected; some estimates double that. Brazil as a country is in serious jeopardy because all through the 1970s they were buying their blood supply from Africa. On top of that, the World Health Organization conducted a large-scale smallpox vaccination program there in the 1970s (for the full implications of that see "The Strecker Memorandum"). Southern Japan has about 30 percent infected with HTLV I, the leukemia-causing virus (although you will never hear about that on TV). Russia is now reporting AIDS as a problem and no one can enter Russia without a current negative blood test for AIDS. Cuba has already set up concentration camps for the AIDS-infected and they are full (you won't see that on TV either). Haiti, of course, is ravaged by AIDS; more than 15 percent of the people infected and getting worse every day. And so it goes. Virtually every nation on earth with few exceptions (Iran is one) is reporting a growing problem. It's on every continent, every sub-continent, and every island chain, Atlantic and Pacific. So why won't the media or government tell you these things? Is it too controversial for you to handle? Are you going to panic? Is There Any Hope Yes and no. NO, if you are waiting for the government to create a magic bullet. As you will see in "The Strecker Memorandum," part of the problem is that all the various AIDS viruses are "recombinant retroviruses." Very simply, that means they have the ability to recombine with the genes of any cell they enter and the offspring or new viruses they form are different from the parent viruses. HTVL III alone (that's the most common American AIDS virus) has the mathematical ability to change itself 9,000 x 9,000 x 9,000 times (which is 9,000 to the fourth power). The Common cold recombines much less frequently and we haven't found a cure for it after 100 years. Besides, does it make much sense to entrust the cure for AIDS to the same people that may have created it? YES, there is hope if Dr. Strecker and a growing number of realistic scientists are correct in looking at alternative, non-allopathic, non-drug modalities based on Raman spectroscopy. In fact many experiments are going on now that offer great promise. Unfortunately, our government takes a dim view on any type of treatment for any disease -- let alone AIDS -- that does not conform to its rigid rules for acceptance, registration, and legalization. Of course the FDA would definitely like to see an allopathic drug treatment or cure presented by an ethical drug company or university. Well, we don't think that's going to happen. Because of this attitude, much experimentation in America must go underground, underfunded, or out of the country entirely. Again, this is explained further in "The Strecker Memorandum." [Continued in next post...] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Claudanius Area: Mundane To: All 11 Jan 94 23:59:36 Subject: The Strecker Memorandum - Part 5 UpdReq ["THE STRECKER MEMORANDUM" continued from previous post...] It's Out There Be Bold & Mighty Forces Will Come To Your Aid -- or Mighty Forces Will Come and Kill You An ominous personal aspect of this story has been the sudden and unexpected deaths of two of the key players. First, Dr. Strecker's brother, Ted Strecker, was found shot to death alone in his home in Springfield, Missouri, an apparent suicide, on August 11, 1988. Was Ted Strecker suicidal? Perhaps. In the past he suffered from depression and monumental frustration at the relative lack of interest in his findings. Dr. Strecker spoke with him the night before his death. Ted was cheerful, in good spirits, and looking forward to certain new developments that promised progress. The next day he was found dead, his 22-caliber rifle next to him. No note, no message, no good byes to anyone. Very atypical for him. Officially a suicide. Next, Illinois State Representative Douglas Huff of Chicago was found alone in his home, dead from an apparent overdose of cocaine and heroin, on September 22, 1988. Representative Huff did everything in his power to make the Illinois State Legislature and the people of Chicago aware of Dr. Strecker's work. He was very vocal, gave many press interviews, was constantly on television and radio urging people to wake up to the coverup concerning AIDS. Did Representative Huff use drugs? Perhaps yes, but only occasionally and recreationally. Was he an addict? No. Would he have known how dangerous a massive overdose of cocaine and heroin was? Yes, of course. Cause of death: officially a stroke. Dr. Strecker has serious doubts that his brother killed himself. Representative Huff's associates doubt he died accidentally, and yet they are gone. Who's next? Ignorance is Bliss, or is it Suicide? We all know it is easier for a king to have a lie believed than a beggar to spread the truth. Well, we are spreading the truth about AIDS. Unfortunately, it isn't pretty. But the fact is you are not being told the truth by the government or so-called AIDS experts. The media, for reasons of their own, will not present information contradicting the official propaganda. So you can choose to go along with the same people who gave us brain cancer (SV-40 virus) as a result of their contaminated polio vaccines in the early 1960s; a polio-like disease from their contaminated Swine Flu vaccine in the 1970s; and AIDS from their small pox and hepatitus B vaccines; or, you can at least make yourself aware of the clear and present dangers that we all face by watching "The Strecker Memorandum." The cost of the tape is nominal but we submit that remaining ignorant can cost infinitely more. Thank You, THE STRECKER GROUP 1216 Willshire Boulevard Los Angeles, California 90017 (213) 977-1210; (213) 977-0901 (Outside California: (800) 548-3198) (The cost of the tape is about $29 plus $3 postage and handling. Please contact the Strecker Group for further information before ordering.) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ace Li Area: Mundane To: Julian 9 Jan 94 18:48:38 Subject: Wheels UpdReq JU>It was partly an effort to prove my dad wrong. He said we couldn't >change who we were. I said he was full of it. Now I know I was right, >and that his point of view could be filed in the same place I filed his >religion and his attitudes toward his wife. Nonsense! If we can't change who we are, then what's the use of conventional religious prayer, etc.; organizations like Alcoholics Anonymous; or even marriage? JU>I did that for awhile, long time back, but am learning to 'just say no'. My "brother's" problem was that he literally cannot bear to not be in a relationship, even if it's a bad one. He feels as if he doesn't exist if he doesn't have someone to interact with (weird, because this is usually a woman's problem). I think he's finally beginning to outgrow it, though. JU>What an interesting bunch! Then he knows the rush that comes every time >one's line crosses the center red line; Fritigern's Visigoths falling >upon Rome's last great army at Adrianople, or (in some cases) the >gallant but doomed and tragic charge of the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg. >And of standing, Promethean, in front of the crease, slashed at by the >(screened and thus most annoyed) goalie and assaulted by infuriated and >offended defensemen, holding fast under the buffets and cross-checks, >laughing and shouting "Shoot, shoot!" You've kind of lost me here. *I'm* not the one who's into competitive team sports. I don't even WATCH hockey. The only kind of competition I can stomach is "individual best" -type competition...like, maybe, figure skating... SLMR 2.0 My other computer is an F-14's targeting system. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Crat Area: Mundane To: Carrie Tyler 10 Jan 94 15:51:30 Subject: Wiccan UpdReq -=> Quoting Carrie Tyler to Crat <=- CT> I forgot to ask you a question. What is a Wiccan? CT> I'm sure that you've gotten lots of answers to this by now, but I'll throw my 2 cents in (and then duck). A wiccan is a person, either male or female, that follows what was once called "the old way". They were also called witches. Though many would disagree vehemently, the term is fairly new (as in only a century or two) and embraces a number of divergent groups. If you stay on the nets very long, you will probably get to read the perinneal fights over "what a _real_ wiccan is" . Until then, they're basically nice people who practice witchcraft. ... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Crat Area: Mundane To: Julian 10 Jan 94 16:06:32 Subject: The Force Of The Christ UpdReq -=> Quoting Julian to Crat <=- Ju> Do you believe that pagans will go to Hell because they don't accept Ju> Jesus? (This is not sarcastic. Knowing this is central to Ju> understanding you, for me.) No, I don't believe that pagans will go to Hell just because they don't accept Jesus. Most of the "pagans go to hell" theology comes from the writing of the misanthropic, legalistic Paul (Saul of Tarsus) in his many (and ever-changing) letters to anybody who would listen. Many of the other passages appear to been added later. Do I believe that the man Jesus was blessed by the Holy Spirit of God and taught his precepts? Yes. St. Theresa of Avila (a delightful woman to read) stated that Hell was knowing that one was not in the "presence" of God or doing his will. If this is true, then many "pagans" are in a better position as far as doing right than many a "kill a commie for Christ" christians. Ju> You have the good taste not to proselytize here (for which I thank Ju> you). Do you proselytize in other walks of life? It depends on what you call proselytization. I've never gone up and grabbed someone off the streets (not only isn't it polite, it can lead to rather nasty physical confrontations ). On the other hand, though it is now considered socially unacceptable to mention personal religious beliefs in public, as I grow older and more comfortable with my beliefs, I do not refrain from answering direct questions. CR->... Evangelists do more than lay people Ju> If all they did was lay people, I'd think better of them...providing Ju> they kept it to consenting adults... tsk, tsk, it's a pun not an exhortation. But then again, if they are going to lay consenting adults, I would hope that they are not hypocritical about requiring everyone else to remain "pure". Men like Swaggart give evangelists an bad name. ... Universe corrupted -- reboot REALITY.SYS ... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718