From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 1 Feb 94 21:14:00 Subject: Re: New JLF Products UpdReq Didn't send it! :\ Sent me Internet mail as I've lost your node #. Then I can simply reply. Ph> He's got lots of stuff in here I've never heard of - guess I'd better Ph> order the "Pharmacotheon" (sp?) book. The _Pharmacotheon_ does not list the P3 kit/papers. That is Pyslo-Fanaticus 1202 E. Pike #783 Seattle. Wa. 98122. 14 page innovative tech briefs are $10.00. I 10cc sterile, loaded spore syringe is $10. Foolproff. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 1 Feb 94 21:25:00 Subject: Re: New hope from plant allies! UpdReq Ph> Have you taken Ph> MDMA? What did it do to your Dark Flame nature? Yes, probably 20 times. This was before it was a controlled drug. I had some breakthrough experiences with it. A lot of healing, both with my self an my partner. I has enabled victims of sexual abuse to approach the incident after many tears of therapy have failed or had limited success. IIt is truly a shame that those in power have seen fit to impede what may be a quantum leap in therapy, in much the same way (but understandably different because of its "street rep") that the phenothiaznes revolutionized the treatment of certain psychosis. Ph> Why don't you and I meet halfway between OKC and Tulsa and spend a Ph> day together? Sounds good. So much more can be exchanged in a couple of hours of conversation. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Phanerothyme 1 Feb 94 21:28:00 Subject: Re: Entheogen Review UpdReq Ph> If this stuff is legal, why don't head shops sell it? I suggested to Ph> Mark of JLF that he sell it; he's willing, and since he does JLF as a Ph> full time business, maybe they'll sell it to him. He's willing to Ph> talk to you about it. His number is 812-379-2508. I'm not Ph> bullshitting - call him with the ordering particulars. The only bad Ph> thing is he appears to be happy only with mark-ups in the 400% range. Ph> Doesn't this stuff wholesale for $40/g? Even if he charges $200, the Ph> DMT/PO method you posted says 1mg is enough, so that's only 20 cents Ph> worth of pay dirt per trip!!!!!! I know Mark well! We were discussing this very thing. I'm running down a source. I know Sigma carries it, and I called them last week, and they said they were just off the press and would be to me within 3/4 weeks. I KEEP YOU POSTED! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Deep Black Area: Magical Plants To: Kayla Block 1 Feb 94 21:34:00 Subject: Re: Netmail UpdReq KB> i have thought about checking into delphi, but haven't done it yet. KB> so far, the 2 pay services that i have checked out have been really KB> disappointing. does delphi give you full internet access? do they KB> bill you extra for accessing certain types of services? I checked out most of the well-known services and none of them have *FULL* Internet access. With Dephi, you get the whole enchalada. Internet/Delphi is $10/4 Hrs per month or $20/20 Hrs per month. There is a $5 initial Internet/Usenet in the first billing. Other than the up front costs, I think its the best deal around. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Kayla Block 2 Feb 94 13:30:30 Subject: Drug Testing UpdReq KB>(i'm going to keep bugging you for that 'risk of posting' thing!) ;> I've got a really, REALLY full schedule till Feb 15, shouldn't even be getting on these echos at all, but I'm a cyberspace addict. Keep bugging; you'll eventually get it. [Personal note, delete before you post this: Kayla might run scared when she reads the "Risk of Posting" piece, may elect to not particiapte anymore - you'll lose a valuable source. Stall as long as possible, hope she forgets about it, and if all else fails, tell her the disk won't read] P> Am going to dentist for a cleaning in 25 minutes, will P> get nitrous (I told them even cleaning makes me real P> uptight) for first time in my life; check mark by KB>i tend to have a bad reaction to novacaine, and usually won't allow them KB>to use it on me. i have begged various dentists for nitrous, but even KB>the ones that have the tanks are always really hesitant. i've never had KB>any of them give me nitrous. KB>but, i have tried some at raves, parties, etc. it's ok. hope you >enjoy< yourself at the dentist! I was on it for TWO hours. Just as you say, it was OK. Kind of felt disassociated, voices seemed distant, no really neat effects. Found that the reason they gave it on so flimsy an excuse was the assistant had to administer a total of 5 hours of nitrous under a doctor's supe before she could be certified. I guess she and I both benefitted, as I've always wanted to try it. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 2 Feb 94 14:19:34 Subject: 5-MEO-DMT UpdReq DB, here's a copy of one of my posts on "Altered States". Please keep us informed of the 5-MEO-DMT acquisition problem. ------------------------------------------------- To : Loki Subject: 5-MEO-DMT >In the "Magic Plants" echo, Deep Black maintains 5-MEO-DMT is absolutely >legal, can be bought from ALdrich Chemicals, and that he >has ordered it many times. Supposedly it works just like >the illegal N,N,DMT - so hold on to your hat!!! LL> I don't get that echo unfortunatly. How can I get in touch with LL> Aldrich Chemicals? and how is Deep Black ingested? What's it LL> made of? Deep Black is the alias of the absolutely best source of info on entheogens in any of the echos I read. He is REALLY an expert on "interesting" botanicals, and a 'shroom epert, par excelance. However, he currently reports Aldritch now only sells 5-MEO-DMT to legitimate sources, e.g. real labs. He's still looking for a source that is more capitalistic and libertarian. I'm REALLY hoping he finds one!!! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Kayla Block 2 Feb 94 14:22:00 Subject: Finally! UpdReq KB>BTW, i met you the weekend of the quake, right? do you have netmail KB>access? What a great pick-up line! Think it'd work for here in Oklahoma? :) Seriously, are you involved in a serious relationship? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Kayla Block 2 Feb 94 14:26:06 Subject: Re: Methcathinone UpdReq KB>sentence made some sense. i'm afraid i'm having 'grammar breakdown' KB>because it think i need to get some sleep. ;> See they TOLD you taking that stuff would f-up your brain! :) [I know, I know - I'm wearing this stupid joke out, but my insecurities force me to want people to think I'm clever] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 2 Feb 94 14:34:10 Subject: Re: Netmail UpdReq DB>for anyone to use. Internet as a whole is fairly complex at first, but DB>so is BBSing when one first begins. That is why I like Delphi so much DB>as DB>that all DB>of its software interfaces are easy to understand and do not force you DB>to learn inordinate amounts of commands, etc. You ain't shit'n. My first effort with Pure Internet was on a Unix-command based system; I had no exposure to Unix, no manual, no one to help me (virtually - I did send some e-mails for help). It was tough - and I'm a Clone/DOS guru. I got the hang of it, but it was a bit trying. It left me feeling that if Mensa ever required me to re-test, I didn't have to fear I'd fail after all the brains cells I've supposedly killed from drinking ("25,000 dead per shot") and "This is your brain on drugs" activity. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: Deep Black 2 Feb 94 14:37:52 Subject: Dangers of posting UpdReq That's the one, bro! Thanks for dredging it up, as Kayla has REALLY been on my ass about it. BTW, do you have any reluctance to post hte kind of things we've been posting. Just curious. Note to Kayla Block: hope this doesn't scare you off, hope you aren't dumb enough to be using your REAL name :) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Phanerothyme Area: Magical Plants To: David Arnold 2 Feb 94 14:50:02 Subject: MS UpdReq DA>oh right i forgot about glaucoma. what is ms and md? multiple DA>sclerosis and ? the "HIV" thing is interesting. i for one, don't MD is muscular dystrophy. MS is just as you said. I ahve MS. So far the symptoms are "mild" - if you'd call be impotent a mild symptom; frustrates the hell out of me. At least I'm still seeing and walking; lots of MS victims aren't. Should I ever get that bad, I want to rat-hole away 1000 hits of LSD (if I could find it, I'd do it now - hopefully DB will find us a 5-MEO-DMT source). I'd be blind and crippled, but I'd still have a meaningful life taking a trip every 3 days. Most of Dr. "Death" Kevorkian's "patients" were MS victims who were blind and wheel-chair bound. [I guess since he's been disbarred, I should have said "Mr. Death".] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Herbs Area: Magical Plants To: All 2 Feb 94 19:34:14 Subject: question Shrooms?? UpdReq I know you can legally buy the sppores , but if you get aressted with mature shrooms is there a penalty?? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718