From:    David Rains                            Area: Magical Plants
To:      Netherlands Doctors                    10 Jun 92 06:44:00
Subject: WANTED: PHYSICIAN                      UpdReq 

 * Original to Netherlands Doctors in OTHERNETS
 * Forwarded to you on 10 Jun 92 by Earthlady
United States MD, PHD Researcher seeks Netherland Physician for medical 
refferal of cannibis thearapy patients to monitor therapy in cooperation with 
U.S. physician.
 Contacts needed for refferal and to assist initial protocol for joint
participation in this venture.
Please Net mail to this address or land mail:
 Elan Data Systems
P.O. Box 7167
Moore, Ok 73153-1167
USA
Re-Post this messages freely
 ! Origin E.D.S. Moore,OK, 80486-33/HST, 405/794-6502 (1:147/8)

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From:    Lisa Dittman                           Area: Magical Plants
To:      Starwyn                                13 Jun 92 10:41:02
Subject: Re: hmmm..                             UpdReq 

I don't know of any herbs that will help sunburn, but Vitamin E in liquid form 
is good for all types of burns as it helps alleviate the pain.  I also have 
used vinegar and tea to help soothe a sunburn. I have found that these work 
very well for me.  I usually sprinkle baby powder between my sheets to help 
keep my body cool as I sleep and it is similar to sleeping on satin sheets 
and may be cheaper.
                      Li


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From:    Lisa Dittman                           Area: Magical Plants
To:      Dan Guardian                           13 Jun 92 10:57:02
Subject: Re: What does MAG_PLANTS mean?         UpdReq 

 > L> The question is, do plants such as Morning Glory, Wood Rose, Hemp,
 > L> Peyote, Mushrooms, etc. belong in a message base dedicated to magickal
 > L> plants. 
 > L> I would suggest that they do because they contain substances that
 > L> definately alter our perception of reality and that our reality is
 > L> defined by our perception of it.  I cosider magick to be a function of
 > L> our perceived reality and any plant that alters that reality to be, by
 > L> definition, a magick plant. 
  My understanding of MAGIK is that each one of contains the elements, the way 
to do magik WITHIN OUR SELVES.  THere is no need for drugs to alter 
perceptions of reality.  I don't believe tha magik alters our perceptions of 
reality.  I do believe tha magik is a nuetral force of nature that can be 
changed by ceremonies, rituals, or just by using the will inside of us to 
control the outside forces.  Personally I do not agree with the  definition 
of andy plant that alters reality is a magik plant.
   I personally, consider this to be a rationalization of using drugs.  Yes 
there are some Tribes that use Peyote but even this is in dispute/debate 
within those tribes.  For others to say taht it's ok ofr them to use drugs 
because these tribes do, is to try and justify or rationalize their abuse of 
these drugs.  Peyote is used in ceremonial magik, but you'll never get me to 
use it.
   I agree that this echo should be for magik herbs and how they are used in 
rituals, ceremonies, and healing.
   (I may have posted this to the wrong person for I was trying to answer the 
message I quoted.  I'm still new at using a computer and reading messages 
from various people and haven't yet gotten the hang of editing and posting 
correctly.  If this did get to the wrong person maybe you could get it to the 
correct one?)
                      Li


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From:    Frater Almost                          Area: Magical Plants
To:      Lisa Dittman                           14 Jun 92 19:10:52
Subject: Re: What does MAG_PLANTS mean?         Sent UpdReq 

FYI.... Halucinogenic plants have been used by all cultures for magical 
purposes.   The Native-American Indians, the Hindus, the Babalonians, the 
Egyptians (fer sure), and all sorts of other folks used hallucinogenic plants 
inccorporated with magick.  They built the pyramids... what have you built 
recently? ;)  Pax. 93


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