From:    Morpheus Shapiro                       Area: MagickNet
To:      Kandilokai Ach Ishte                   30 Nov 96 11:56:00
Subject: Astral Temple 2                        UpdReq 

 Script #7756 - MagickNet (PODS) 
   Date: 11-27-96 22:27
   From: Kandilokai Ach Ishte
: #7030 <-
.  Morpheus>>What U C is not your hands. Even if you open your eyes and look
  at your hand B4U hyperjump 2 Astral Temple, you won't B able to sustain 
he photo realism of the image, B cause your hands are more than th
  appearance. U have many levels of involvement with your hands. My hands
  begin to glow golden when I look at them. They are more tentacle than
 hand.
  But then I'm not that attached to being human anyway ;-)   so it
doesn't detract from the experience.
. 
Khephera>> Hmmmmm, this hasn't been my experience at all.  I agree that it is
impossible to hold photo-realism for *anything* on the Astral. Things aren't 
as deep,
  rich, or detailed there as they are here- mainly because you don't tend to
  notice things unless you wish to perceive them.  But, the only time my body
  specifically looks different is when I wish to assume a different form. 
Rather  than my Astral Body looking different, I tend to forget about it 
altogether
  sometimes.  ;)  That's when I'll look down at my astral hands and move them
  around some to bring it back into focus.
 : Kandilokai Ach Ishte>>>  I am almost the opposite.  In looking at myself, 
and seeing like an earth human, much one that looks like my physical self in 
the here and now, requires
effort.  (Not necessarily great effort, but effort that could be better spent
on other things while I'm out there)  I'm taller, and slenderer than any human
would normally be, and my hands only have four digits.  (there is no minim on
my hands in the astral, and wasting effort to make one appear would only make
them clumsy looking to me, as they do to me in the here and now.)
    Hello  : Kandilokai Ach Ishte!
  When you assend to your astral space, what is it like, and where did you 
learn to do it?
   Like you, my hands are amorpheus handing dreams, it takes more effort than 
it is worth to make them a visible hand, although Kephera uses the image of 
his hands for deepening the astral experience and I am using the image of my 
hands, just lately, to try to shift myself to realms that I cannot imagine 
beforehand-either other's astral dreams,  the realm of the ancestors, or 
where thoughts go after they are created, the malleable regions. To aquire 
sygils that appear rather than are created-gifts from on high. U NO! ---
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