From: Khephera Area: MagickNet To: Dragon 30 Nov 96 09:05:26 Subject: Book Of Enoch UpdReq On Nov 26 08:54 96, Dragon of 93:9004/1 wrote: >> However, to me the true use of Vibration is association. You >> spend years learning all the corrispondances that are >> For instance, when I turn to the North and intone the Divine >> Name of Water- I don't have to conciously think of all the D> -snip- D> thank you. You're welcome. ;) D> the eastern teachers state that it makes no difference whether you know what D> the sanskrit words or sounds mean or not. a master in china, tibet,india, D> indonesia etc and even sects in india who's belief system are different D> (each having a different "religious background" or linage) all give mantras D> in sanskrit, all give seed sounds that are the same. D> thats part of what my interest in asking the question was about, to see if D> the seed sounds used in your "way" were the same. Sorry I can't be of help there. You'd have to study into the relationships between Sanscrit and such languages as Hebrew, Egyptian, and Babylonian- if there are any. However, I can offer this- it is my personal belief that it is foolish and perhaps even dangerous to use Magickal Words of Power of which you don't know the meanings. There are certain small exceptions- such as some Enochian material and even the Bornless Ritual. However, in both cases these are Ceremonies that are well known and well tested- I'm not going in blind. And, in the case of the Bornless Ritual, I am even still attempting to find the meanings to all of the Greek words and Names. Blessed Be, may Yahweh and His Asherah guide and keep thee, Ar ReX Em SeXem Eref Neter Au-a Rx Khephera 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Morpheus Shapiro Area: MagickNet To: Pan 28 Nov 96 08:46:00 Subject: A small essay.... UpdReq PP> so what is the way? do we crumble into the hopeless pattern PP> of our social dogma and worship mammon as (it may seem) PP> everyone else does? PP> ..if not where then do we go. and where (what) are we to PP> begin with? PP> --- GEcho 1.10+ PP> * Origin: The Wizard's Cavern BBS (93:9806/50) need 2 quote. I Have no idea.................. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kandilokai Ach Ishte Area: MagickNet To: Khephera 27 Nov 96 22:27:00 Subject: Astral Temple 2 UpdReq K=>MS> What U C is not your hands. Even if you open your eyes and look K=>MS> at your hand B4U hyperjump 2 Astral Temple, you won't B able to sustain he K=>MS> photo realism of the image, B cause your hands are more than their K=>MS> appearance. U have many levels of involvement with your hands. My hands K=>MS> begin to glow golden when I look at them. They are more tentacle than K=>hand. K=>MS> But then I'm not that attached to being human anyway ;-) so it doesn't K=>MS> detract from the experience. K=>Hmmmmm, this hasn't been my experience at all. I agree that it is impossibl K=>to hold photo-realism for *anything* on the Astral. Things aren't as deep, K=>rich, or detailed there as they are here- mainly because you don't tend to K=>notice things unless you wish to percieve them. But, the only time my body K=>specifically looks different is when I wish to assume a different form. Rat er K=>than my Astral Body looking different, I tend to forget about it altogether K=>sometimes. ;) That's when I'll look down at my astral hands and move them K=>around some to bring it back into focus. I am almost the opposite. In looking at myself, and seeing like an earth human, much one that looks like my physical self in the here and now, requires effort. (Not necessarily great effort, but effort that could be better spent on other things while I'm out there) I'm taller, and slenderer than any human would normally be, and my hands only have four digits. (there is no minim on my hands in the astral, and wasting effort to make one appear would only make them clumsy looking to me, as they do to me in the here and now.) Iradi! Ishte --- * OLXWin 1.00b * Dragon's are a man's best friend 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Dusty Area: MagickNet To: all 30 Nov 96 00:12:02 Subject: knowledge and wisdom UpdReq I was reading back in the October threads and caught part ofa discussion about knowledge and wisdom.. to me knowledge is more than the collection of "facts". the root word for knowledge I think, is from gnosis.. to know, or understand... you can memorize many facts without understanding any of them.. I think that If you truly KNOW something.. have a viceral experience of it perhaps, it can increase your wisdom. Like many people, those who cared about me gave me advice freely to try and help me find a good path through life. much of what they said was true, and I thought I knew it. It took several cosmic 2 x 4 s upside my head though, before I TRULY knew it.. and boy, I got alot wiser :- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718