From: Ghost Area: MagickNet To: Khephera 14 Aug 96 22:34:08 Subject: Hmmm... Oddball question... UpdReq .'. > I've long thought of puting a piece of aluminum or something over the coal > and putting the oil on that...I just never did get around to doing it. ;) I don't do it either, but for some time in the past I knew not where to get charcoals, so I took one of these graveyard-candles and put the aluminium piece on top of it. > Really, I'm not that bad...but I do like a smoky atmosphere if I can > achieve it... yea, right. and then U open the window and a fire engine stops in front of your house . another thing I read about yesterday - you could 'impregnate' the wooden magickal tools w/ and essential oil. I will try it on my wand after I have returned from Wales.... [and got the oil(s) I need ] -+* 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ghost Area: MagickNet To: FireSpell 14 Aug 96 22:46:12 Subject: Magick UpdReq .'. S>> crowley, > An occultist who had a sick sense of humor. sure and that's why I wouldn't believe anything he said anyway.... until I tried it myself. by now I'm not so deep into thelemic magick [having started with the Golden Dawn stuff. but the GD leaves enough basical questions which aren't covered by the books [Regardie]]. > Mostly seems that he was about "pushing the limits" what else could one do to find his limits and get able to use his potential totally? > and while he obviously knew a thing or two, he also had some amazing blind > spots (either that or he just lied in some areas, which is possible too). that's possible. people with a 'sick' sense of humor tend to confuse others. but on the other hand I do not think [imho] his system would have been so close to the christian believe if he had known himself that better. > In either case, he is not exactly my cup of tea.... hehe. he was just a magician, not another guru/ jesus. how could he be? or anyone else?! what would your cup be? -+* 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Khephera Area: MagickNet To: All 13 Aug 96 15:12:44 Subject: Clumsiness in Ceremony????? UpdReq Hello All! ;) Now it's time for me to ask for ideas. :):):) As most of you know, I've been working, longsufferingly, on my Grimiore for the past many months. It's finally getting to where it's of use in Full Ceremony- so that I don't have loose pieces of paper floating around all over the place. ;) At any rate, I have a problem- and it's one that has long dogged me. My Ceremonies are sometimes greatly reduced from what they could be simply because I'm wrestling with so many things in my hands! The Magickal Weapon (Staff, or Sword, or etc), the Grimiore (a rather large book), AND the Talisman I'm working with at the time. Not to mention things used with the Talisman like annointing oil, black cloth, cord, etc. As of right now, I'm considering getting a few Music-stands to place around the Circle to hold the Grimiore. That will help a lot I'm sure. I'm also going to knuckle down and try and memorize more of the common Incantations and stage directions that I have thus far neglected (since they are all written down). But, I'm completley open to suggestions by any of you out there who are also experienced in Ceremonial workings (including Ceremonial Wiccan Magick, of course). Blessed Be, may Yahweh and His Asherah guide and keep thee, Ar ReX Em SeXem Eref Neter Au-a Rx Khephera 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Khephera Area: MagickNet To: Sandirien 12 Aug 96 07:31:02 Subject: Magick UpdReq On Aug 09 01:57 96, Sandirien of 93:9806/0 wrote: S> agrh. Please quit saying "magick" at least from where i come from, you S> really don't need to say it. It seems to flamboyant. Why not just good ol' S> "magic"? simple. magick is just so irritating. I rather like the term "Magick". And, seeing as how I also happen to be a professional stage-magician, the spelling distinction happens to come in handy. ;) S> And please explain chaos magick, crowley, and what he is about. So far as i S> know hes a very bad person. Please prove me wrong. Actually, you should just read some of his work. If you feel he was a "very bad person", then you certainly have not read his work. He played the "bad boy" so that those who were unworthy would decide he was "bad" without ever reading his material. That way, they would not be harmed by that material. Blessed Be, may Yahweh and His Asherah guide and keep thee, Ar ReX Em SeXem Eref Neter Au-a Rx Khephera 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: FireSpell Area: MagickNet To: Stardance 18 Aug 96 17:25:00 Subject: ouija UpdReq On Wed Aug 14, 1996 (12:40), Stardance wrote about Re: ouija: Fi> Sounds interesting. Maybe we should compare notes sometime? S> When I get the time, I wouldn't mind. OK, just send me a netmail when you are ready. S> There is a reason protective capabilities are stressed when doing any S> kind of magickal working. It is, really, for your own safety. Often that is the case, yes. The problem comes when groups have you jumping through hoops, just for the sake of jumping through hoops.... S> So why do too many people scoff at it? Impatience, perhaps? S> And then end up hurting either themselves, or someone else. Getting in "over their head", perhaps? FireSpell 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Paul Hume Area: MagickNet To: Jade 18 Aug 96 22:44:32 Subject: Pollution UpdReq Jade - Things go full circle - I was looking for bedtime reading the day after I wrote you back, and what did I pull off the shelf at random (since I haven't sorted the books in awhile, it is always pretty random (g)) but The Toxic Spell Dump. Which I thoroughly enjoyed rereading, so thanks for putting me in the mood for it (g). Paul 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718