From:    Khephera                               Area: MagickNet
To:      Pan                                    15 Jun 96 05:41:12
Subject: words                                  UpdReq 

On Jun 11 05:36 96, Pan of 93:9806/50 wrote:
P>  actually, i think the names, are phonetic expressions of formulas. 
P> therefore the same god, or angle can be pronounced differently in differing 
P> cultures but the same basic formula stands as what is...
P> i.e,  ishtar, easter, hastor, hathor, ......
P>  the truth to knowing how other languages say the same thing is in the 
P> formula.  truth begins and ends outside or without language.
The way I see it is this:
You spend a lot of time studying and training.  To take one example, you study 
long and hard on the Forces of Venus/Netzach....and you associate all you 
learn about this Force with the Goddess Ishtar.  That association becomes 
ingrained in your mind as deep or deeper than what a stop-sign means.  ;)
Then, when it comes time for the Magick, you can't be spending your time 
pondering all the hundreds and even thousands of intricate details of the 
force of Venus....you need to pull all of that information into your mind in 
one fell swoop...without bringing your left brain into it any more than you 
have to (because the left brain needs to concentrate on directing the 
Forces).  And so, to do this, you simply envision Ishtar.  She, in one simple 
picture, sums up everything that Venus/Netzach is.  You call upon Her, and 
direct your power through Her.
That's what vibrating Her Name is all about.  You call upon Her (that is to 
say, all the Forces of Venus within yourself) by vibrating Her Name.  
Therefore, it really doesn't matter how it's pronounced....the Magick is in 
the association of the Name with the Ideas.  
Now, as an aside, it also happens that often we might find Names being very 
similar in sound when related to the same concepts.  For instance, the Name 
Lilith and the Hebrew for "night" (Lailah) are very similar, and the concepts 
they call forth are also similar- **even though the words are not linked in 
any historical or etymological way**.  This seems to be a side effect of the 
principal outlined above- rather than the cause of it as you indicate.  ;)
Blessed Be, may Yahweh and His Asherah guide and keep thee,
Ar ReX Em SeXem Eref Neter Au-a
Rx
Khephera


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From:    Khephera                               Area: MagickNet
To:      Paul Hume                              15 Jun 96 22:29:02
Subject: words                                  UpdReq 

On Jun 14 09:52 96, Paul Hume of 93:9829/0 wrote:
PH> Pan -
P>> i.e,  ishtar, easter, hastor, hathor, ......
PH> But this can run into a tricky little trap, since Hathor is not a 
different 
PH> pronunciation of Ishtar, but the Hellenization of Het-heru,
PH> which means House of Heru (Himself called Horus by the Greeks). Thus,
PH> there is no linguistic connection between Hathor and Ishtar - who in fact 
PH> some syncretists connect rather with Isis (Auset, Iset).
PH> So watch out for those cross-language homonyms...they often do NOT 
indicate 
PH> common origin or similar meaning.
And this, in turn, illustrates one of my earlier points that words with 
differnt histories- yet similar meanings (Hathor and Ishtar are very alike) 
can sometimes end up sounding alike.  But, this isn't by any design.  It 
seems to be a kind of cosmic-consciousness kind of thing....:)
Blessed Be, may Yahweh and His Asherah guide and keep thee,
Ar ReX Em SeXem Eref Neter Au-a
Rx
Khephera


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