From: Helrunar Area: MagickNet To: Josh Norton 18 Mar 95 11:34:28 Subject: Re: PLUTO RETROGRADE Rec'd UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Hi Josh! > I think that -- if there is any valid relationship between physical > nature and the subjective, astrological effects -- Pluto's nature is > also connected with a past event, rather than with it's current > position. And that event was, like Uranus, a collision. > Scientists have noted that when a meteor impacts the Earth, the force of > the blow -- in the form of compression and heat -- causes crystalization > in the rocks around its impact point. Even when the rock is relatively > amorphous, like limestone, such crystals form. The crystals are very > small; it is the fine structure of the rock that is affected, not its > gross appearance. > It has been theorized that Pluto was once a moon of Neptune, which was > knocked into a solar orbit by a collision. And impact sufficient to do > this would certainly have enough force to produce the crystalization > effects in the planet's substance. So even though the planet is cold > now, at one time it was subjected to heat and pressure of the sort I > connect with its subjective effects. In light of this yes the efects of the planet definetly seem to make more sense. I'm the kinda person who needs a logical explination for things. It just seems to make me feel more confident. Thanks for sheding alittle light on it! I never thought of past experiences having a part in the nature of a planets affects eather. but now that you said something I realize that in esence *everythings* personality is built from past experiences. I guess I already knew that it just wasnt a concience thought.ttyl! Love is the law, love under will. Frater Helrunar 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: M-Taliesin Area: MagickNet To: All 19 Mar 95 05:32:44 Subject: URGENT-READ THIS!!! UpdReq I, M-Taliesin, a Priest of Wicca, pass this information along to all people of every faith- You need to know what is going on that will affect our lives if allowed to go unchallanged! Let us not war against one another when the true enemy are those who would divide and conquer us whether Christian, Pagan, Jew or Moslem; Mormon or Native American, Hindu or Budhist. Our true adversary may well be those in whom the public trust has been placed. Be forewarned. Quoting from Perceptions Magazine, Winter '94 edition: by Iain C.L. Poole pg 67 "The 'Constitution of the United Nations Development Organization' can be found in Senate Treaty Document No.97-19, 97th Congress, 1st session, 1981,82, confirmed by President Reagan and the Senate. The United States Constitution, in the "Supremacy Clause" of Article VI, declares treaties to be the supreme law of the land, taking precedence over contrary state laws. The United Nations Constitution's preamble shows the intention to direct, control finance and subsidize all "natural and human resources" and "agro-related as well as basic industries" through "dynamic social and economic changes with a view to establishing a new international economic order." According to Rexford G. Tugwell, in his book The Emerging Constitution, this "Newstates Constitution" was created under the auspices of a Rockefeller tax-exempt foundation. The Rockefeller family is thought to dominated the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The U.N. Constitution also states, in Sections 1 and 15 of Article I, that the rights of expression, communication, movement, assembly, petition and Habeas Corpus are all eliminated during a "declared emergency." Most significantly, it declares, "Until each indicated change in the government shall have been completed, the provisions of the existing Constitution and the organs of government shall cease as they are replaced by those authorized under this Constitution." " (emphasis added.) I have quoted the article faithfully above and now interject a personal note. What type of emergency is not defined, and ergo can be whatever the government deems appropriate to suspend the rights illustrated above. Our Constitution, which guarentees certain freedoms, would be replaced with this new Constitution which gives government sweeping powers which establish a format for dictatorship! This next bit of business is even more alarming. "Another treaty that may soon be ratified is the United Nations Convention on the Rights of The Child, which is intended to grant to children rights to privacy, freedom of expression, free thought and association. The rights will be enforced principally AGAINST PARENTS, whose responsibility exists only in furthering the independent choices of the child. All children MUST be REGISTERED AT BIRTH, and agencies will be set up to investigate and prosecute violations, such as a parent preventing a child from interacting with material that the parent deems unacceptable. No allowance is made for 'parental guidance.' It is the goal of the state to direct the education of the people it governs toward the philosophy of the New World Order as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations." In the above paragraph, which I have taken pains to quote with complete accuracy, I have capitolized some of the verbage for emphasis. What is being talked about here? It would suspend your rights as a parent to guide your child as you would deem proper. It sounds to me like enrolling your child in Sunday school could get you prosecuted. Trying to keep pornography or other materials inappropriate for your child out of their hands would become a criminal act. As a parent, you become nothing more than a tool for breeding more citizens of the STATE, who would carefully groom that child to think along the party line as opposed to learning the traditional values that you or I would hold dear. Your ability to raise your child in your path, whether Pagan or Christian or Jew, or any other path, would become a criminal activity. It will pass into law and by the time you figure out what has happened, the die will have been cast. While you and I may differ over religious issues or philosophical ones, our distraction over our individual rights is being used by a Juggernaut as an opportunity to overshadow the rights of us all. Is it not time that we put aside quibbling with one another over relatively minor issues on the microcosmic level and take note of what is happening on the macrocosmic level at which governments are now moving? Rather than wallowing in our mistrust of one another, would it not be far wiser to band together as patriots of America and gather the documentation to substantiate the facts and confront our elected officals with a demand that they stand against this outrage to our personal and civil liberties? The old Soviet Union had a program to divide and conquer. While the "evil empire" described by Reagan may have fallen, a far more sinister one may lurk on our doorsteps very soon. Now that you are aware of the facts, the question is: What are you going to do with the knowledge? (addendum) Points of Interst. Take note that Hitler disarmed the people of Germany as his dictatorship began to exercise control. That spirit is moving in the USA today. Recently, a survey was circulated on some military bases to assess the willingness of American soldiers to fire upon American people. Why this survey? Republicans and Democrats alike have been involved with these treaties the United Nations is slowly putting forth. President Carter signed a resolution under the "emergency" situation clause that would allow the United States to suspend the Constitution, establish internment camps and detain the people. Reagan, as you have read, signed similar legislation in concert with the United Nations. Next time your Congressman or Senator has one of those little "Town meeting" seances in your area- GO! Ask the hard questions and don't settle for pat answers. The price of not getting involved may be your children. Get educated on what treaties and legislation is going on without you awareness and stand up to these people who are selling us down the river! Sorry about the impromptu sermonette. Brightest Blessings M-Taliesin / | ()MMMMM|>>>>>TALIESIN>>>>> | \ ... If this isn't war, why is CNN massing on the border? ~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718