From:    Erin                                   Area: MagickNet
To:      Lorax                                   8 Aug 92 14:30:38
Subject: Re: Sun? Female?                       UpdReq 

       Quoth Lorax to Erin:
You will note that all figures in mantic or battle trance in Irish and    
Scottish myth and folklore are described as reddened, or having red upon
them.  Using that logic, Finn, Cu, Fergus, the Dagda, Brigid, Morrigan,
and a cast of hundreds would also be solar gods by that reckoning. 
                                                                         Erynn 
and I just finished a series of three lectures on Celtic Poesy        
(Filiocht), meditation, and Faery.  We discuss this at some length. If you
are interested, you can get a copy of the relevant sections from us for the
cost of postage, or the booklet (70+ pages) when it comes out.  
       (Sorry I have to quote the whole thing.  My sysop is coming to dinner 
Monday to show me how to break it up.)
     Thank you for your very kind offer of relevant sections of the booklet.  
But I'm one of those people who has to have the whole thing. :)  Would you, 
however, let me know where I can obtain it?  I'll be happy to send someone a 
check for sending it to me when it does appear.
     Didn't know about figures turning red before battle.  For us in Texas 
that happens after eating jalapenos. ;-)  
     However, the point that sticks in my mind is that Lugh turned red from 
sunset to dawn *every* evening.  This, to me, indicates those solar 
attributes we were talking about, rather than battle preparation. Unless Lugh 
was getting ready to battle the night.  Which *still* makes him have solar 
attributes.
     Incidentally, I've been reading this in Maire MacNeill's _The Festival of 
Lughnasa_.  I can hunt it up for you and give you page numbers if you like.  
In the meantime, to you and your wife, Lughnasa sona dibh.  (A little late, 
but I'm trying to use my baby Irish wherever I can.)
                                       Erin

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From:    Ian Kesser                             Area: MagickNet
To:      Eric                                    7 Aug 92 02:53:00
Subject: Re: Re. The Great Seal Of              UpdReq 

Regarding your thoughts on the Eye in the Pyramid... (fnord) 
 I wrote this late, late one night after re-reading Illuminatus.. 
                 Pyramid 
     "The I at the top of the Pyramid."
    But I is not I, and definately not Eye.
    The Aye at the base of the Pyramid
    distorts the view, making the I an Eye,
    which is blind to the I, oh.
     Twas definately an Englishman, 
    not ole Adam, 
    who sealed our current, see
    the Eye and miss the I, as
    was the intent.
     I is I but not I, oh you
    I is you, is I, is you.
    Aum Shiva, is closed, the
    lotus not opened, nor yoga of
    yin and of yang, a gang bang.
     Bang of our minds, a big
    bang, end, beginning.
    Ewige, servium, the gnosis 
    psychosis the Aye blurs the
    Eye blurs the I is set free.
     Free floating the structure
    the break is the key,
    the Abyss mal mistake.
    The I in the Pyramid
    must to be Free.
 Admittedly, this probably belongs in Eris, but hey, Magicknet's the
catch-all, ain't it?  In any case, that's what I think the symbol
means. 
  With Love, 
 Ian 
  MMST 2.09 UnRegistered - Have you driven a fnord lately?


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