From:    Frater Q.A.A.                          Area: MagickNet
To:      Khaled                                 15 Jul 92 01:17:26
Subject: Theban/Enochian                        Sent UpdReq 

I've been most recently energized by Enochian Sex Magick out of Falcon.
You'll find alot more information about this Enochian work under my Psudeonym 
Neuro Sonic, on Enochian Echo.
I have never heard any reference to Theban in any Enochian works including 
Schueler's, Crowley's, Regardie's, and whoever wrote that _Elizabethan Magick_
Azoth has better references (that $50.00 volume from Magickal Childe)
I have also recently written Order of the Cubic Stone to find out more about 
this field of research.
Frater Q.A.A.


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From:    The Tigress                            Area: MagickNet
To:      Bequi Crane                             6 Jul 92 23:58:00
Subject: paper                                  UpdReq 

BC> I liked that very much. Was that your paper? Do you have any
BC> more?
       Thank you...yes it was mine.  I do have more....yet I wasn't sure if 
this would be an appropriate place to put them...
                                   Ravenna 


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From:    Ammond Shadowcraft                     Area: MagickNet
To:      Ian Kesser                             14 Jul 92 09:59:00
Subject: Re: Thirteen                           UpdReq 

 -=> Quoting Ian Kesser to Peter Giordano <=-
 IK> Qouth Peter Giordano: 
 IK> (Qouthing Karl Lembke): 
  IK> First off, the Feminine symbol is the Moon.  In one year, I do
 IK> believe there are approximately thirteen lunar cycles.  If you make
 IK> the Year a symbol of Unity (the cycle of seasons comes around, etc.),
 IK> then 13 is quite definately unity. 
     It wasn't that way in ancient history. Sin and Thot are moon
     GODS. Per the large majority of ancient Gods anything in the
     sky was considered to be male. Gaea--anything earth was female,
     Cronos--sky, anything in the air or sky was seen as
     male--probably including time.
     I don't know how the Japanese came up with Suna (for the sun B^).
... LEGALIZE DRUGS: Think of it as evolution in action.

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From:    Dee Waredale                           Area: MagickNet
To:      All                                     9 Jul 92 07:15:08
Subject: Fishy?                                 UpdReq 

I'm starting to here talk about the fish symbol popular amongst "born again"
having a right and a wrong direction.  If it "swims" from right to left:
                                 ___
                                /   \/
                                \___/\
it's the correct Christian way, but if it swims from left to right, this has
the same meaning as an inverted crusifix, i.e., it is a coded symbol for
satanism.
Has anyone else heard this, would people ask around.
Dee


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From:    Tony Iannotti                          Area: MagickNet
To:      Ammond Shadowcraft                     15 Jul 92 09:28:52
Subject: Re: Thirteen                           Sent UpdReq 

-=In a missive of 14 Jul 92  09:59:00, Ammond Shadowcraft said to Ian Kesser=-
(regarding Re: Thirteen)
 IK> First off, the Feminine symbol is the Moon.  In one year, I do
 IK> believe there are approximately thirteen lunar cycles.  If you make
 IK> the Year a symbol of Unity (the cycle of seasons comes around, etc.),
 IK> then 13 is quite definately unity. 
 AS> 
 AS> It wasn't that way in ancient history. Sin and Thot are moon
 AS> GODS. Per the large majority of ancient Gods anything in the
 AS> sky was considered to be male. Gaea--anything earth was female,
 AS> Cronos--sky, anything in the air or sky was seen as
 AS> male--probably including time.
Then again, you had the Egyptian Geb and Nut, earth god, and sky goddess,
but I have found them almost alone in that reversal.
... The Xians To The Lions!

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From:    Phoenix                                Area: MagickNet
To:      Dee Waredale                           15 Jul 92 17:11:52
Subject: Fish                                   UpdReq 

I am an active practitioner of the Left-hand Path and have been for much of my 
adult life, but I must admit that I have never come up against this question.
The idea of changing the direction of the symbol in order to change the its 
meaning seems to make sense, but it stands to reason that this would apply to 
any symbolic device. 
As for your inquiry about the use of this symbol as some type of "Satanic"
code, I am unaware of said application. I might also add that it seems to be
quite silly, as only a "Devil Worshiper" of the Xtian variety would feel it 
necessary to pervert the symbols of anothers religion.
Is not religious tolerance a two way street? To this question I would have to 
answer YES, and to deny this fact would be pure folly.
Xeper,
Phoenix


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