From: Michael Thorn Area: MagickNet To: All 1 Jun 92 00:35:40 Subject: the Paths of Da'ath Does anyone have information on the Paths and pathworking with Da'ath. I understand that there is some GD material of the Philosophus grade. If anyone can suggest sources for rituals etc, please let me know. LVX Michael 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: David Stein Area: MagickNet To: Philip Cavanagh 27 May 92 15:56:10 Subject: Re: Equinox in Book Form Greetings! Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. -=> Quoting Philip Cavanagh to Frater I.O.S.P. <=- FI> How's it goin? First of all, I'd like to thank FI> Darrin Hyrup for responding FI> to your message for me already. FI> {I didn't know that I had a secretary! Wow... I guess I'm getting a FI> good deal, since I haven't paid him a dime for doing me the service!} PC> heh I guess he's just glad to offer his services! A nice thing to PC> have, actually! I'm sure he is, although I like to answer for myself (I do it all the time.) PC> Well I am hoping to do the same, in fact I'll be playing Illuminati PC> Online (it sounded like a good idea, and it's a cool concept for a PC> role playing game). The board will have a friendly attitude with it, PC> I don't want to have a one-sided BBS, which typically infests the PC> Christian only type systems. There's no problem with doing that, I PC> just have to get it setup first when I move into Victoria. Let me know, and I'll be sure to frequent it! PC> Well I don't have many files of this origin, I just have a few. What PC> I have to do is start sending letters to some of the boards I know to PC> work on some ideas. I will also be permitting file requests, and if I PC> can afford it, will be putting a CDRom online, but the CDRom will PC> become avaliable once the BBS has been well established. But what's PC> your address? K.A.L. Camp c/o Frater I.O.S.P. 409 La Reine Ave., 1st Floor Bradley Beach, NJ 07720-1338 PC> But am I publishing the said materials, or am I offering the files at PC> no cost, thereby advertizing the O.T.O.? Eh? I lost you on this one... What do you mean by "advertizing the O.T.O.?" PC> You'll have to wait for the PC> call, I can't do any LD until I get my own line this fall. Thanks for PC> the message, hope to get on there in a few month's. Hope to hear from you! If you can't call, drop me a letter at the address located above. Love is the law, love under will. L.V.X., Dave 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: David Stein Area: MagickNet To: Darrin Hyrup 27 May 92 16:03:12 Subject: Re: Equinox in Book Form Greetings, 93 -=> Quoting Darrin Hyrup to Frater I.o.s.p. <=- DH> In a message dated 15 May 92 19:42:21, Frater I.o.s.p. wrote: FI> {I didn't know that I had a secretary! Wow... I guess I'm getting FI> a good deal, since I haven't paid him a dime for doing me the FI> service!} DH> Yeah, I work for cheap sometimes. Oh yeah? Wanna help me re-typset the electronic version of the Equinox? PC> Question: WOuld I have to get ahold of the main OTO branch to release PC> Book 4 or Magick in Theory and Practice in Electronic Form? FI> Darrin doesn't seem to think that it would matter {ha!} As for me, FI> I tend to agree with him... But, he's right, Book 4 and MTP are already FI> available through BaphoNet and HaditNet. They have almost everything FI> in electronic form. I KNOW that you would have to get permission to FI> publish MTP or Book 4, but you probably won't get it. DH> Well, releasing them on his BBS isn't exactly the same thing as DH> publishing, I don't think I implied that, did I? I meant to publish in book form. DH> since they are commonly available in a similiar format on DH> other BBS systems (run by both OTO and non-OTO members.) That is what DH> I meant about it probably not mattering. DH> Now, if he wanted to publish them in book form, that is another DH> question entirely! :) Oh, I entirely agree with you... Why would O.T.O. give up copyrights that they worked hard for, just to have someone publish it and not give a dime to O.T.O. Good thing for copyright laws! Love is the law, love under will. In Thelema, Frater I.O.S.P. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Farrell McGovern Area: MagickNet To: Pagan Federation (UK) 27 May 92 11:10:38 Subject: test In a lo-rez cyberspace object, Pagan Federation (UK) @2:440/27 texuralized the following thoughts onto the reality grid of my fav VR co-ordinates: PF(> magicknet PF(> ... Pagan Federation - desdrw@cix.compulink.co.uk PF(> -!- GEcho/beta PF(> ! Origin: *-[ Black Dog Towers ]-* +44 (0)81-983-3472 * PF(> (2:440/27.0) We are reading you loud and clear! ttyl Farrell Moderator 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Adrienne Area: MagickNet To: Mandy Vivian 30 May 92 00:14:42 Subject: Re: EVIL, Maybe not??? MV> Who is to say that we arn't on hell right now????? "Why, this is hell, nor am I out of it. Think'st thou that I that saw the face of God And tasted the eternal joys of heaven, Am not tormented with ten thousand hells In being deprived of everlasting bliss?" - Mephostophilis. (Dr. Faustus, Act 1, iii. Christopher Marlowe, c. 1592) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Merlin Area: MagickNet To: Pen'S Beast 31 May 92 02:34:10 Subject: Really!!?? PB> Skeptical, but with an open mind...HUH??? Not to get real philisophical but..... (everyone's got a big but) If I accept all as truth is that right? If I question everything with skepticism will I learn more than blind acceptance? Is searching for the truth like riding an ox in search of an ox?? Ignorance is bliss, if you know this you are no longer ignorant?! Hmmmm Odd isn't it. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Merlin Area: MagickNet To: Mike Pfeiffer 31 May 92 02:43:26 Subject: Re: REALLY!!?? Yes it does help, I'll take it as a NO, you've never encountered anything like that. When you do these"ceremonies" are you just following general psychological guidelines for happyness ie _I'm ok you're ok_ ?? If not are you performing rituals to being/entities that have no effect on the physical world and are just personafications of mans dualities. If not than what?? Why do you practice?? I do not accuse you of the following but It seems to be my observation that some practitioners of magik seem to like to perform rituals that give them an excuse to screw some women. I've talked to some people who are quite certain that "you know he's only doing it as an excuse to scrog". Have you ever experianced or observed this?? Live long and Prosper 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Oghma Area: MagickNet To: Lynn Burson 30 May 92 21:46:00 Subject: Tarot Classes On 05-24-92, LYNN BURSON wrote to LORD ASLAN: LB> Sorry to be so long answering your message. The net's been down LB> a coupla weeks. Sysop installed a piece of software that can vacuum LB> his house, mow the lawn, cast circle, call in elements, and fix LB> tacos buenas. It took some time, I hear. How did he get the thing to do Tacos???? Geez... I have been working on that program for ages. I got the circle part down last week but the computer doesn't call watchtowers... it summons powersupplies.... Buts a real cramp in the pomp and circumstance but we do get some heavy energy going Oghma * Freddie 1.1 * eye of newt, toe of frog, and a side of fries... Please 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: John Shaman Area: MagickNet To: William Mclaughlin 30 May 92 04:15:08 Subject: No Tests WM>That's the problem I have with most people's response to channeled data. The WM>immediately assume that it's true because of the source. To illustrate, if a WM>channeled entity said to purchase, say, IBM stock, would you do so or would WM>you check the financial pages, annual reports, and overall track-record WM>beforehand? I find it disturbing that, if the information came from a human, WM>they'd check, but if from, say, Ramtha, they wouldn't. WM>Of course, most channeled entities get around this problem by refraining fro WM>making any remarks that are testable. How can you devise an experiment to te WM>assertions like "we make our own reality", or "Love is the glue that binds WM>together the physical and the spiritual worlds"? I'm with you, there. Of all the psychic (or supposedly pyschic) abilities (not to say I don't believe in psychic ablilities or magick), I find channeling the hardest to swallow. It's just TOO easy to *fake! Even if the person is sincere, who or what is being "channelled?" A spirit, an entity from another world/dimension, or the person's subconscious mind regurgitating what has been written or uttered by others and perhaps having been re-worked to their understanding? * OLX 2.1 TD * If I look confused, it's because I'm thinking. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Myerra Area: MagickNet To: The Equalizer 30 May 92 21:43:24 Subject: Re: 'ALLO > I am new to this Echo and was just popping by to say 'Allo. I am a > High School student and a Pagan. Any other questions? Just ask... Hi there, welcome to the Echo...now do you have any questions?? Blessed Be, Myerra 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718