From:    Josh Norton                            Area: ENOCHIAN
To:      Ar Aakhu-T                             18 Aug 94 14:58:00
Subject: Question                               UpdReq 

Thus said Ar Aakhu-t to Josh Norton concerning Question: 
 AA> 93-
  JN> Heehee. Now you know why I refuse to be a teacher -- people
 JN> hate it when
 JN> you say "I don't know".
 AA> On the other hand, it's a great reminder to 
 AA> chuck the ego-inflation that it tempts.
From my random encounters over the years, seems to me that those 
teachers most prone to ego-inflation are also those most likely to try 
baffling 'em with bullshit instead of admitting ignorance.
Alas, with my verbal handicap, I never got a chance to try that route. 
Might have been fun, for the short while it could be sustained.
... The universe doesn't take you seriously, so why should you?    
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10


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From:    Josh Norton                            Area: ENOCHIAN
To:      Shadow Walker                          18 Aug 94 15:53:02
Subject: Re: enochian 101                       UpdReq 

Thus said Shadow Walker to Josh Norton concerning Re: enochian 101: 
 SW> Maybe not a wall but the focusing of a lens.
  JN> I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
 SW> I don't like the idea of putting up walls either. When establlishing
 SW> my circle and doing banishings I some times visualize the circle to
 SW> be a lens and the banishing is cleaning and focusing that lens to
 SW> channel the specific force or rays wanted .
Hmmm.....do you think of the circle as an extension of yourself?
 JN> And having that crap pop up
 JN> and bite you is the  best motivation there is for getting rid of it.
 JN> Since such events seem  to only rarely produce permanent injuries,
 JN> perhaps its better that the  magician experience it as early as
 JN> possible.
 SW> I strongly disagree with you here. Having worked as a mental health
 SW> care- giver I have seen too many people left as empty shells as a
 SW> result of "magickal experimentation" and mostly with crap I might 
 SW> add. Stuff you wouldn't think
 SW> would have any power at all.
(Pondering....) In a couple of decades I've personally encountered only 
one person who seemed to have really screwed himself up with magick, and 
heard of one other. 
I also worked directly and indirectly in mental health for several 
years. And for the life of me I can't think of a single case I saw where 
the problems could be directly attributable to magickal practice. The 
very few that involved magick at all seemed to have pre-existing 
etiologies. The fact that the "experimenters" you mention screwed up 
with minor stuff makes me think that might have been the case there.
Consider also the long-term effects: were these people still "empty 
shells" five or ten years later? If not, then I don't see a problem.
But that was long ago, and things may have changed. Maybe Kayla Block 
has some impressions on the matter. You listening Kayla?
In any case, my essentially libertarian philosophy and my magickal 
experience combine to give me a somewhat darwinian view of the matter. 
Individual freedom includes the freedom to screw up; it's not my place 
to interfere. And from a spiritual standpoint, the only things you're 
likely to screw up are a few disposable vehicles -- once you die, you no 
longer suffer the consequences of your actions. The "eternal" part of 
your being retains the benefits of the lesson, perhaps more so for the 
severity of it.
Some of the enochian angels seem to share this view, in a more severe 
form -- in fact, I just realized I got my attitude from them. As part of 
a series of advanced techniques they gave me a few years ago, they 
included a technique that is almost a test-to-destruction; anyone using 
it is guaranteed to have the integrity of their being tested to the 
limit, and a bit beyond. Its effects were so severe that I objected to 
publishing it; it seemed too much like handing a loaded gun to a child. 
The angels replied that you can't expect people to become spiritual 
adults unless you trust them with adult tools and dangers. In their 
view, the maturing process _requires_ such tests, or one does not gain 
true maturity. And if some fail the test, then there's always their next 
incarnation.
... PARANOID - One who is truly in touch with reality.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10


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From:    Fir                                    Area: ENOCHIAN
To:      All                                    19 Aug 94 07:31:00
Subject: Laycock's Enochian Dictionary          UpdReq 

It's out!!!
I called Serpents Occult this morning about ordering something
else and Steve has got Laycock's book in.

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