From: Fir Area: ENOCHIAN To: Josh Norton 23 Jul 94 09:35:00 Subject: enochian 101 UpdReq Hi Josh! JN> There is no "evil" or malevolence in any enochian spirit JN> I have encountered. Even the so-called cacodemons aren't deliberately JN> malevolent. The magician has to deliberately work "against the JN> grain" of JN> the system before he can call up the forces in an intrinsically JN> destructive form. Within the hierarchy of Enochian spirits, do you hold with the idea that it is desired to have the higher ups coorporation in controlling the spirits on the lower end of the hierarchy? As I recall you don't hold with 'controlling' the spirits period, but do you understand the question I am trying to ask? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Fir Area: ENOCHIAN To: Ar Aakhu-t 23 Jul 94 09:39:02 Subject: enochian 101 UpdReq AA> As a result, it's generally good to work in a physical AA> temple at first until you _really_ know the ritual and can AA> carry it without problems. For Enochian, which is new to me, AA> I'd definitely want to rely on such aids at first. I know I'm not ready to memorize the entire Tablets in my head. Besides, the Tablets are so delightfully visual. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ar Aakhu-t Area: ENOCHIAN To: Fir 23 Jul 94 14:44:00 Subject: enochian 101 UpdReq 93- 93- FF> I know I'm not ready to memorize the entire Tablets in my head. FF> Besides, the Tablets are so delightfully visual. Agreed. But then, if you were scrying aethyrs, you wouldn't necessarily need them would you? Crowley did the Sahara working using just scripts of the calls and an engraved topaz as a scrying stone. 93/93- -Ar Aakhu-t S S S S . { , /| | | == ,===+===. `.`,-.',' -+ | L) || H ~~((O))~~ ----+---- |===][===| H ,',`-'.`. | | /` || H / } \ L) | \) == 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718