From: Christeos Pir Area: ENOCHIAN To: Fir 20 Jul 94 22:36:08 Subject: Charts UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Just in case you needed any of this info... Note new stuff at end. NATAL CHART COMPARISON FOR DR. JOHN DEE (Kelly: 8/1/1555, 11:45 AM) info from Wm. info from M. O. G. info from Rodden & Hall Ayton, via Fir: via Jeanne Garner: via Jeanne Garner: 7/13/1527 OS 4:11 p.m. 7/13/1527 OS 4:20 p.m. 7/12/1527 OS 4:35 a.m. Sun 29 Can Sun 29 Can 29 Sun 28 Can 04 Moo 01 Aqu Moo 01 Aqu 30 Moo 08 Cap 52 Mer 12 Can Mer 12 Can 15 Mer 09 Can 55 Ven 01 Vir Ven 00 Vir 44 Ven 28 Leo 56 Mar 27 Sco Mar 25 Sco 45 Mar 25 Sco 20 Jup 09 Can Jup 09 Can 10 Jup 08 Can 50 Sat 02 Tau Sat 00 Tau 31 Sat 00 Tau 27 Ura 19 Gem 08 Ura 19 Gem 03 Nep 16 Pis 45 Rx Nep 16 Pis 47 Rx Plu 21 Cap 26 Rx Plu 21 Cap 28 Rx NNd 22 Sag NNd 24 Sag 13 NNd 24 Sag 17 Asc 03 Cap Asc 07 Sag 18 Asc 02 Leo 06 II 20 Aqu III 02 Pis (Ari?) IC 27 Ari V 15 Tau VI 04 Gem DSC 03 Can VIII 20 Leo IX 02 Lib MC 27 Lib MC 05 Lib 47 MC 08 Ari 16 XI 15 Sco XII 04 Sag Some examples of differences between House calculations: 7/13/1527 4:11 pm Jeanne Garner Astrol 9.5 Horary Wm. Ayton Asc - 05 Sag 48 Asc - 28 Can 19 Asc - 28 Can 15 Asc - 03 Cap MC - 03 Lib 36 MC - 02 Ari 33 MC - 02 Ari 29 MC - 27 Lib "Pilgrims of the Night" by Lars B. Lindholm has two different charts, both for 7/13/1527, but one at 4:40 U.T. and the other for 16:40 U.T. Here's the lineup: 04:40:23 UT 16:11:00 UT Sun 29 Can 01 29 Can 29 Moo 24 Cap 01 01 Aqu 20 Mer 11 Can 28 12 Can 14 Ven 00 Vir 09 00 Vir 43 Mar 25 Sco 35 25 Sco 44 Jup 09 Can 03 09 Can 10 Sat 00 Tau 33 00 Sat 34 Ura 19 Gem 51 19 Gem 52 Nep 16 Pis 05 Rx 16 Pis 04 Rx Plu 21 Cap 48 Rx 21 Cap 48 Rx NNd 22 Sag 39 22 Sag 38 Asc 03 Leo 43 05 Sag 31 II 20 Leo 17 10 Cap 23 III 11 Vir 27 24 Aqu 53 IC 10 Lib 40 03 Ari 11 V 20 Sco 13 00 Tau 05 VI 01 Vir 44 19 Tau 38 DSC 03 Aqu 43 05 Gem 31 VIII 20 Aqu 17 10 Can 23 IX 11 Pis 27 24 Leo 53 MC 10 Ari 40 03 Lib 11 XI 20 Tau 13 00 Sco 05 XII 01 Can 44 19 Sco 38 Love is the law, love under will. - CP ... To me only the distant flute, the abiding vision of Pan. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Witchchild Area: ENOCHIAN To: All 18 Jul 94 16:01:08 Subject: Enochian UpdReq Greetings of wings and wisdom to everyone here. I am curious as to what exactly Enochian means or is. Upon looking at the first entries in this echo, I thought it may simply mean, magic and ritual without instructions. And I thought, This is what I do naturally, but after the other three letters, I couldnt anymore think that Enochian was simply freestyle practice. So, as I am learning still, I would like to ask any tuition on definintion, description, example, or recipes you would care to give. I am very grateful of you all. Feather and flame, stone, tear, and dream. WitchChild 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Desert Boy Area: ENOCHIAN To: All 18 Jul 94 21:05:42 Subject: same as message 5 UpdReq Currently I am under the tutioral of another and am looking also to aquire more skill. I'm interested in learning any type of magic or magic available. Whether it be stones, runes, herbs, earthereal, spiritual, metaphysical or anything else. I would be grateful for any type of training that would be offered or even for information on where to find this training or teachings. Infinity and beyond, the playground of immortals Desert Boy 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718