From: The Cegorach Area: ENOCHIAN To: CHRISTEOS PIR 6 Apr 94 23:28:54 Subject: Enochian "style" UpdReq -=> Quoting Christeos Pir @666:401/11 to The Cegorach @666:231/0*9 <=- 93, CP! CP> That was probably Josh, I think. The whole thing is definately CP> elemental, of course, the only problem is figuring out the proper CP> attributions. Josh has done some research into this area (I can Okay, that makes more sense. CP> repost his message, if you need it). One point of contention has to do Thanks; I believe I have it (it was relatively recent, was it not?), and printed it out for later use. CP> with the so-called Raphael recension, or Tabula Recensa -- several CP> different versions of the great table exist (the one with all of the CP> elemental tablets and divided by the "Black Cross" of the Tablet of CP> Spirit), one of the last was supposedly corrected by the Angel CP> Raphael, but there's some controversy about whether it's really CP> accurate or not. The best thing, of course, is to do as Josh did and CP> "let success be thy proof." Hmm. Interesting; I was unaware that multiple versions existed, or what exactly the Recensa was, though I'd seen references to it often, of course. Thanks for the info...I love the Nets! TC> While I do appreciate the offer, I'll FREQ it from Tony in a few days CP> Even better... saves you money and me paper and toner! Uhh... you CP> _do_ have a copy of WordPerfect, don't you? Otherwise, you may need CP> hardcopy after all. Indeed...WP 5.1, and an HP DeskJet 500; that oughta take care of it, eh? :) Larry ... Glorious, glorious, glorious art Thou, O Self of myself. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 VQWK 6.20 [Rev G - 01/23/94] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: The Cegorach Area: ENOCHIAN To: JOSH NORTON 7 Apr 94 04:00:56 Subject: General Stuff UpdReq -=> Quoting Josh Norton @666:56/93*93 to The Cegorach @666:231/0*9 <=- Re: Enochian JN> Thus said The Cegorach to Josh Norton concerning Enochian: JN> That's right. Particularly, they wanted the student to have a good JN> grounding the the cabala, and a fair amount of practice doing astral JN> visions with non-enochian symbols, such as the Tattvas, Tarot cards, JN> etc., before working with it. That's what I thought.... TC> the Tablet of Union with an 'L' tacked on at the beginning. I seem to TC> recall them being split slightly differently, but I digress. JN> You mean LEXARPH, COMANAN, TABITOM, I assume? Did he use all three? Yes, and yes. :) JN> First, I don't think you are likely to do any damage using those JN> particular names in a middle pillar exercise. The power in the names JN> themselves is really rather generic -- or do I mean "general"? -- and JN> not particularly qliphotic or Da'ath-like. Charging your throat chakra JN> with their power won't hurt. Noted. JN> Personally, I'd be inclined to split the chakra practice from the JN> pillar practice. Use the traditional Hindu seed-sounds and JN> visualizations for stimulating the chakras. Instead of a pillar JN> exercise, do a full-bodied "building the Tree in the aura", using all JN> the sephiroth and dropping Da'ath all together. But YMMV. Aha! The secret (100th) name of God--YMMV! :) Silliness aside, I've been working on the chakra "split", if you will, already. Although I haven't gotten to the "Building the Tree in the Aura" exercise yet, it's earmarked. (I'm trying to avoid adding too many new things at once....) I believe I had already remarked to you that since the MP seemed like a chakra working anyway, I figured I'd go "to the source", so to speak, and do a "real" chakra working...or maybe it was Rose I mentioned this too. JN> As for the exact nature of those names, and the Aethyr ZAX: JN> The three names are really NOT "governors" or rulers of the Aethyr. In [much informative stuff deleted] JN> the next three with Binah, etc. ZAX being the 10th Aethyr it would be JN> associated with the highest aspect of Chesed, which Crowley decided JN> was the experience of the Babe of the Abyss. Heck--now why didn't I get this response to the "Terminology" thread when I asked just what an Aethyr was, and the relation (if any) to the Sephiroth? :) I was wondering how, if at all, they "mapped" onto each other. I mean, just because ten divides evenly into 30.... JN> I suspect that Crowley's experience of the Abyss in ZAX is, like so JN> much else in Enochian magick, the result of his expectations and not JN> of anything intrinsicly connected with the Aethyrs. All the more reason to "do your homework" first, eh? Thanks for the info-- Larry JN@> ... Greetings from Trala, La. JN@> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 JN@> -!- Maximus 2.01wb JN@> ! Origin: Star In The Circle (666:56/93) ... Klingon Porno flick - A *GOOD* kung-fu movie. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 VQWK 6.20 [Rev G - 01/23/94] 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718