From: Walter Five Area: TOPY To: Nineveh 28 Feb 94 22:39:42 Subject: P.Orridge Updates? UpdReq N> Walter Five, N> 93. N> Hi there. I have that album and three (?) others by PTV. I like N> that one best...don't know why. I want to like them, also don't know N> why. I've never figured out quite how to take them. -> busts. I was shocked at the stormtrooper tactics -> that the Police use -> mean, a law that defines a person with a bodily piercing as a sexual -> is unfair; but trying to take away a person's child because of their -> status under a new law is a retroactive -> abomination of the Codes of H N> There's a text file on this on my board. I was shocked. Do you know N> what the current situation with them is? -> Blessed Beast! N> So it is done. N> Nineveh N> --- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 02-20-94 No, I haven't heard...I understand they were guests of the Caliph of the O.T.O. last year, the Caliph and Genesis are supposed to be friendly... but I digress...I'll bet there are some Cyberlurkers out there who are in the know, care to enlighten? I was reading about some of Genesis' early days, including his 1976 conviction for mailing "obscene material" in the form of a postcard, a montage of Buckingham Palace, The Queen, and images from a "pornographic" magazine. Not to mention his involvement with COUM Transmissions --he formed it in 1969, a year before he changed his name. Early works included John Cage, and Yoko Ono. The Sex Pistols played at COUM Transmissions' notorious 'Prostitution' show. Said Genesis "We called the show 'Prostitution' for obvious reasons, because Art is prostitution. We thought the opening party was more important than the show. So we decided to invite alol the most extreme people we knew and ggot lots of beer." this was the debut show of Throbbing Gristle, and Chelsea (with Billy Idol) played there billed as "LSD". This was all tossed in as asides in a book called _England's_Dreaming_:Anarchy,_Sex_Pistols,_Punk_Rock,_and_Beyond_ by Jon Savage--it's stuffed FULL of tidbits about everybody who was nobody in London, during the spontaneuous abortion of Socialist Great Britain that fed the curs of Punk Rock, Gods bless their pointy Mohawks! It's a great detailed view of the scene, and explains alot that was unclear to me at the time--I used to be a big Stranglers fan, but Hugh Cornwall and Company always struck me as a little estranged from the Punk scene; this book explains why. It also clears up the origins of the Fued between the Pistols and the Damned...not to mention more written on X-Ray Specs than I've ever seen in one place...ever hear their little ditty "Oh, Bondage! Up Yours!"? Unless it's been packaged as a CD recently, their stuff is impossible to fine--Goldmine Ads sell their singles occasionally for up to $35 apiece. I didn't really get into this stuff untill about 1978, and I'm still catching up on the whole story--it's only been the last five years or so that I've really started keeping an eye and ear out for Psychik TV, Current 93, Coil, Bahaus, Alien Sex Fiend and the like...I was more into The Cramps, Dead Kennedys, Iggy Pop, Oingo Boingo, Dead Boys/Stiv/Lords of the New Church, Exploited, Pistols, and Frank Zappa. The first two Punk records I ever bought were Elvis Costello's 1st LP and Richard Hell's Blank Generation...I was a sophmore in High School and a Teenage Delinquent...but I digress... Blessed Beast! Walter Five /s 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718