From: Christeos Pir Area: Thelema To: Grey 1 Apr 95 14:25:28 Subject: Re: Unicursal Hexagram & The Abyss! UpdReq -=> Grey sent a message to Christeos Pir on 28 Mar 95 23:05:42 <=- -=> Re: Re: Unicursal Hexagram & The Abyss! <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Gr> As a matter of fact, I have not a word on Enochiana, except for some Gr> wild theories which I'm dying to try out. Heh... "Be afwaid... be vewwy afwaid. Heheheheheh." Gr> So far, I only know of one person who has mixed Enochian Gr> with Goetic magic without going insane, and some will yet contend that Gr> that person surely was mad. Implying that you know of others who mixed the two and _did_ go insane? Gr> So if I vanish, look for my diary... I warned you about too much starch in the banishings... Or, as Goethe said, "That which does not kill us-- URK!!! " Love is the law, love under will. - V - ... There is joy in the setting-out; 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Paul Hume Area: Thelema To: Tim Maroney 1 Apr 95 20:43:30 Subject: Vachss UpdReq Tim - I won't get into who digs Skinner the most (the psych department at Georgetown was almost entirely behaviorist, but on the other hand it was 20 years ago that I was there, and only took a few surveys to boot). On Vachss, on the other hand, I'd recommend you read Sacrifice, where he clearly distinguishes between pedophiles and Satanists (actually vaudois, but Burke isn't exactly a cultural anthroplogist). Don't go flying off the other way, ie. because child abuse is so often levelled at occultists as a false charge (the modern equivalent if the Blood Libel vs, the Jews), lets let all the people who rape children off the hook. Nothing much to do with Jugorum, but despite the danger to the occult community caused by false charges of pedophilia, the pedophile, however he or she likes to dress up the act, is an excellent candidate for shooting. Vachss is clear on validation, on nailing down proof, before acting - both in his fiction and his non-fiction, and this kind of blanket denigration of the issue poses an equal danger to teh community - the galloping relativism that says "it's ok you like to stick your dick into 5 year olds, because itmust be like your karma, and they chose to incarnate as your kid, so its like their choice, we're Pagan so its cool with us, man." Paul 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: Thelema To: Rose Dawn 1 Apr 95 21:13:50 Subject: Re: REPLIES... UpdReq -=> Rose Dawn sent a message to The Cegorach on 30 Mar 95 07:32:44 <=- -=> Re: Re: REPLIES... <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. re: Existence is pure Joy (r). I prefer Sunlight (r), myself. Love is the law, love under will. - V - ... Many have arisen, being foolish. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: Thelema To: Martin Krogh-Poulsen 1 Apr 95 21:16:14 Subject: M.. UpdReq -=> Martin Krogh-Poulsen sent a message to Christeos Pir on 30 Mar 95 11:22:14 <=- -=> Re: M.. <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. MK> Congragulation to both of you Magicians. Thanks! MK> Where exactly did you take your II? William Blake Camp, Maryland, USA, on March 19th. Happy New Year, indeed! Love is the law, love under will. - Vitriol ... & left the cold Prince of Light bound in chains of intellect 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Josh Norton Area: Thelema To: Rose Dawn 1 Apr 95 10:00:00 Subject: LESSER HEX RITUAL UpdReq Thus said Rose Dawn to Serpens concerning Re: LESSER HEX RITUAL: Hi Rose! Hi Paul! > Following an acronym, a la INRI, isn't essential. I think Ben Rowe > has done some stuff along this line (Josh - am I misremembering?). RD> RD> Yo, Josh! You watching? Care to elaborate? ;> Just remember, you asked for it! Paul's comment is a touch ambiguous in context; I'll answer both interpretations. The INRI formula has had a prominent place in my work over the last ten years. The Enochian "angels" began the process -- they literally rammed the essence of the formula into my being. Dredging up all the stuff they gave me, and discovering it in other areas, has been fascinating and enlightening. INRI is as close to being a universal magickal (and mythic) formula as any I know. (For a relatively condensed presentation about it, see _Table of Correspondences for the INRI Formula_, in electronic form from Anon or Baphonet.) As for the Hex ritual... I agree with Paul that following an acronym isn't important, as long as you have some sort of "drawing down / raising up" symbolism in there. But most of my work with the Hex ritual has been aimed at "restoring" the INRI formula to its full interpretation, separating it from its questionable connection to IAO, rather than eliminating it. IAO seems to me to be a generalized formula of consecration, while INRI (especially when shorn of its unfortunate-but-valid Christian associations) is of vastly wider applicability. I'm constantly fiddling with the Hex ritual -- don't think I've done it the same way twice in a row in years. But I did write down several versions; let me see if I can find the files....(insert "Jeopardy" ticking-clock music here).... The only one I can find is the version for use in Enochian work. With the rubric, it's too long to fit a single message, so I'll just paste in the opening section. It'll give you an idea of the way I use it. (Excuse the doggerel -- poetry isn't my forte.) =============================================================== 1.1 Return to the center of the circle, face east. Declare to the universe: "AMGEDPHA!" [trans: "I begin anew."] 1.2 Extend arms to the East, and do several deep breaths, drawing energy from the East and diffusing it throughout the aura. 2.1 Do sign of Harpocrates, then hold wand or sword vertical before the chest, other arm down at side. 2.2 Recite: "I. N. R. I." (Concentrate the energy in the aura above the top of the head. As the letters are spoken, draw it down to activate certain chakras in turn: I - Sahasrara and ajna chakras N - Throat chakra R - Heart chakra I - Chakras below the diaphragm 2.3 Draw all the energy down into the chakra at the base of the spine. 2.4 Recite: "Yod, Resh, Nun, Yod" (Visualize the energy moving _up_ the spine and both side-channels, activating the chakras in reverse order of point 2.2) 2.5 Recite: "Isis, Horus, Set, Thoth" (The energy fountains out the top of the head in four streams and diffuses back into the aura.) 3.1 Recite: "The passage of Man through the Earth." "The passage from Earth to the Stars!" 3.2 For theurgic works, recite: "Isis, Nature, innocent blindness" "Horus, Warrior, the struggling soul" "Set, Apostate, seeking the spirit" "Thoth, the Wise One, encompassing all!" For thaumaturgic works, recite: "Thoth, star-namer, decreeing the pattern" "Set, destroyer, dividing the poles" "Horus, sun-king, providing the power" "Isis transformed is the manifest goal!" (Assume the god-form of each god before speaking her/his line.) ================================================================ The closing is basically the same, save that the initial "Amgedpha" is eliminated, and the words "Iad, gemeganza" (God, thy will is done) are said at the very end. I think this version maintains the spirit and intent of the original while updating the symbolism. OTOH, I have some doubts about most of the "Thelemic" hex rituals I've seen. One of the advantages of traditional-form hex rituals is that they are nicely generalized; their symbolism is applicable on many levels and in many circumstances. Thelemic symbols are substantially more specific in their applicability; putting them into the hex ritual maintains the superficial _form_ of the ritual, but changes the symbolic spirit and intent almost completely. Seems to me that one would be better off designing a whole new ritual especially for the Thelemic gods, and leaving the hex ritual as a useful, general invocation of planetary forces. ... Come 'n see the violence inherent in th' system! --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 * Origin: Access! 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Just don't like to be "butting in." ;) > BD> In Regardie;s _The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic_, he has an > BD> essay entitled "Self Initiation." > Thanks for the suggestion. I cracked the GD bookstop edition when > I was prepping for the Pat Zalewski lecture on Enochian magic, > but I haven't read that chapter yet. > BD> Then, he expresses that one could gain the equivelent experience > BD> found > BD> in the Elemental Grades of the G.D. (Zelator, Theoricus, Practicus, > BD> Philosopohus) by performing effectively and repeatedly the Opening > BD> by Watchtower which he outlines in his book _Ceremonial Magic_. > This is a ritual I have a definite interest in and have already > started reading this book. I'll be getting around to posting a > recap of the Zalewski lecture on the Enochian echo one of these > days. I did ask him what he thought the purpose of this ritual > was, under the guise of a discussion on the 3 names of God in > each of the Elemental Tablets. > His take on it was that it was based on the portal ritual, that > Regardie had written it, that it wasn't GD 2nd order material. > That's about all he said, except that someone else felt that the > Hierophant's wand was inappropriate for this ritual. I'd hazard a guess that is not far from the truth. But as a leading exponent of the GD System, if Regardie managed to develop a ritual that one can use in solitary and achieve results, it probably deserves at least a minor looking into. Sorry I didn't answer this post sooner, but I've been having weird problems getting my mail on some nets lately. Oh, well. Talk to you again soon. In LVX, BD --- * SLMR 2.1a * And for my next trick, I'll channel Cthulhu! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718