From: Michelle Hass Area: Thelema To: Kevin Bold 18 Jan 95 20:36:00 Subject: Newt Gingrich UpdReq KB>anyone outside of Georgia in those days knew who Newt KB>Gingrich was. He gave an excellent speech, one that KB>revealed what a visionary he was, and the next day I met KB>him in the hotel elevator and we chatted briefly. I'm kind KB>of excited that I can honestly say that I met him "way KB>back when". While I certainly do part company with him on KB>some issues, I think Congress needs more forward-looking KB>history teachers (Gingrich's original profession) and a KB>lot fewer socialist lawyers. 93, Kevin... While I agree with you that Congress needs fewer socialist lawyers, the one thing it doesn't need is the Christian Coalition bringing in all those "stealth candidates" like they managed to do this mid-term election. I guess that two years of breathing space is all we got before the Night Of The Living Reaganites came back. I am concerned about my freedom of religion, because many of these newbies and some of the old farts that are still in their seats do not recognise freedom of religion for any religion other than Fundamentalist Protestant Christianity. I am concerned about censorship, I am concerned about the gutting of Public Television, I am concerned about the certain doom of health care reform. I am concerned my right to a safe and legal abortion if my birth control method fails me. And most importantly, I fear that the immigrant-bashing cancer which first infected working-class Britain, then revived the sleeping ghost of the Sturmabteilung in Germany, has surfaced in a very ugly way in America, the first born of Horus, the first society built on respect for the individual rather than the control of the masses by the Strongest Man. In California, a whole bunch of misinformed and very angry white males voted Proposition 187 into law, a mean-spirited law which endangers the public health and does absolutely nothing to curb immigration. And a trial baloon recently went up amongst the newbies in Congress to enact a federal version of 187 which would even go so far as to deny federal benefits to naturalized citizens of this country. This would mean that my mother-in-law, who escaped the Nazis by the skin of her teeth to live in the relative safety of America, would not get her Medicare and Social Security benefits that she paid into when she hits 65. I don't know if Newt Gingrich is the Space Exploration-minded visionary you met way back when, or the wannabe Cotton Mather that he seems to be now. All I can say is, despite my unhappiness about Clinton's spinelessness and Gore's nonentity-hood, that I am actively praying to Hoor that they last through the term without being assassinated. The prospect of President Gingrich is one that would make me take the next flight out to Amsterdam to obtain political asylum. I've got to keep my hopes up...the Year 93 is only two years and two months away. The new current is making a dent in the Osirian stupidity around us, but only a dent. Like Peter Hammill sang about 15 years ago, I want the future now. I want the cancer of the old way of doing things excised and thrown away before it irrevocably metastasises and destroys our world. 93/93 --.\\<-H-- michelle.hass@ledge.com * SLMR 2.1a * Huh huh huh...she said "93." Huh huh huh huh huh.... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kevin Bold Area: Thelema To: Tim Maroney 16 Jan 95 07:33:28 Subject: Re: MEMBERSHIP IN OTO UpdReq 93! TM> By "Da 'Burgh", do you mean Pittsburgh PA? If so, I haven't lived there TM> in TM> about ten years, but when I did there were no occult politics to speak of; TM> virtually no presence at all, in fact, other than the Sign of Aquarius TM> bookstore up in Shadyside. What happened? There are several pagan, occult, and "New Age" groups, most of whom get along with each other, WRC-OTO included (we have overlapping membership with both the local Self-Realization Fellowship chapter and the liberal Christian "Spiritual Co-op", which is led by a Unitarian minister who is _very_ interested in Freemasonry and Hermeticism; we occasionally get together so we can talk about these things; in fact, it was he who loaned me the copy of _Secret Rituals of the OTO_ so I could photocopy it. I offered to buy it, of course, but it wasn't his to sell). Sign of Aquarius is now "Mystic Spirits". Len and Harriet, who did so much to steer prospective OTO members my way, had to sell the store when Len's health got too bad for them to run it. (The good news is that the store is in excellent hands.) TM> Anyway, could you go into more detail about these "troublemakers"? I was TM> glad TM> to see that you realize such cases are very rare and that it's reasonable TM> to TM> be skeptical about such claims. I wonder if you understand that I have a TM> certain concern about the common usage of the term "troublemaker" in the TM> Order TM> in general, and more specifically in a body whose very name seems to TM> suggest TM> an admiration for "troublemakers" -- "Whiskey Rebellion Camp." If Crowley TM> hadn't been a troublemaker, we wouldn't have a tradition now. If TM> Christianity TM> says "blessed are the peacemakers," perhaps we should say "blessed are the TM> troublemakers" -- for they are the ones willing to take the risks and push TM> forward beyond the edge of consensus. Well, I'd rather not go into too many details about this handfull of individuals, as I prefer discussing ideas to discussing people. Let's just say there are _some_ people in Pittsburgh, both "Pagan" and "Thelemite", who just don't have enough sense to refrain from meddling into other peoples' business, who like to publish information (out of context, of course) which they have obtained by misrepresenting themselves as sincere aspirants or would-be friends, and deserve the reputations they have, both here and elsewhere, for being egotistical, manipulative, and a whole list of things I needn't include here, and let it go at that. As for WRC's name, the Whiskey Rebellion wasn't about making trouble. It was about not taking any crap from the government. Congress, at Alexander Hamilton's prompting, placed a tax on whiskey in the hopes of raising revenues to pay for the War for Independence, and the catch was you could only pay it in gold. Farmers in southwest Pennsylvania had no gold, and used whiskey for barter (it was in greater demand than the grains they grew, and easier to ship down the river). Naturally, the government wouldn't take whiskey as payment. The farmers chose to resist, and when a tax collector's house got torched, President Washington himself led a militia from four states to quash the uprising. The rebellion leaders either fled to Ohio (the "wild west" in those days) or were tried in Philadelphia, and Pittsburghers have been resentful of Philadelphia ever since (despite the importance of the event -- our nation's first constitutional crisis -- it doesn't get talked about much in local schools; yes, you can grow up around here and never hear about it at all). Since the Rebellion's spirit was congruent with Liber 77, I thought it would be a good name for SW PA's first OTO body. 93--93/93... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Fir Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 18 Jan 95 07:12:00 Subject: Achad Rec'd UpdReq Hi Josh, Fi> just found out today he's been working on a biography of Fi> Frater Achad for the last 20 years. Small world ain't it? JN > I'd be very interested to see what he's come up with, if it's JN > possible. I'll pass along your request for sure. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Tyger Area: Thelema To: Kevin Bold 17 Jan 95 17:10:00 Subject: WRC-OTO Questionnaire UpdReq Quoting Kevin to Tyger about WRC-OTO Questionnaire on 01-15-95 07:33 T> Can you post the questionnaire, a little information, and tell me about the T> book? KB> how long they've been into magic, what groups if any they've belonged Thanks for the information. KB> (articles for _Annuit Coeptis_, crash space for visitors, etc.). _AC_ KB> is not a book; it's our newsletter. Can you tell me how to get a copy? Tyger ... Best file compressor around: DEL *.* (100% compression!) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718