From: Tim Maroney Area: Thelema To: Andy Bender 4 Dec 94 09:24:22 Subject: Re: Clash Of The Aeons UpdReq You are correct in pointing out an obsession with the old-aeon/new-aeon theme among Thelemists. It is one of the several unquestioned assumptions of their system of thought. Attempts to discuss the question of its =accuracy= -- that is, any discussion which does not begin with the assumption -- are met with either silence or defensive insults in virtually every case. This obsession goes so far that they are even unable to perceive objections to this dogma as philosophical or historical questions; instead, the aeonic theme is substituted in place of the actual criticism. Instead of asking whether the theory is accurate, in their minds the critic is accusing them of being "old aeonic" -- and having made this convenient substitution, they proceed to defend themselves against a criticism which was never made. Even given the limited traffic that reaches this site, I have seen more than one example of this substitution defense here in the last few days alone, and of course, I have seen it repeated many times over the years. Tim Maroney I* O.T.O. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Doug Plexico Area: Thelema To: Michelle Hass 3 Dec 94 09:41:38 Subject: Copy-rights... UpdReq That is a shame. Crowley's works should be Public Domain. It's like having a copyright on the Bible! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Doug Plexico Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 3 Dec 94 09:38:20 Subject: Crowley on CDROM? Rec'd UpdReq DP> I went to COMDEX this month and talked to the DP> folks who do this. I am DP> awaiting futher info in the mail from them concernign DP> this. I will post the info when I get it. Reply to your message, Same message as above. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Tony Iannotti Area: Thelema To: Doug Plexico 6 Dec 94 07:26:26 Subject: Copy-rights... UpdReq DP> That is a shame. Crowley's works should be Public DP> Domain. It's like having a copyright on the Bible! Yeah, it's too bad Crowley didn't see it that way. Or any other author whose writings you find inspiring. How dare they claim copyright! ;-) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Tony Iannotti Area: Thelema To: Doug Plexico 6 Dec 94 07:23:24 Subject: Crowley on CDROM? UpdReq DP> I went to COMDEX this month and talked to the DP> folks who do this. I am DP> awaiting futher info in the mail from them concernign DP> this. I will post the info when I get it. DP> Reply to your message, Same message as above. ????? I think my question was about who you were talking to. They are not the _only_ "folks who do this," so I was curious exactly which company or companies you were talking to. If you have forgotten who they are, and are waiting for the mail to find out, just say so. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: .Nisaba Area: Thelema To: Brian Dare 5 Dec 94 15:21:08 Subject: Re: O.A.S.I.S. UpdReq Brian Dare was chatting with All the TL about O.A.S.I.S. on 03 Dec 94 07:26:- BD> Just curious if anyone knows what happened to the O.A.S.I.S BBS in BD> B.C.? BD> I call there on a regular basis, and he (Andrew Haigh) has apparently BD> been down all week? There's an oasis bbs in Australia not too far from here who is definitely in business at the moment, but I suppose that's no help to you... .n. ... A man's best friend is his dogma. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Michael Aquino Area: Thelema To: Josh Norton 3 Dec 94 09:33:42 Subject: Re: Stargate (2 of 4) UpdReq JN> (Eric Partridge's excellent etymological dictionary offers the half- JN> serious alternative that the word derives from the Greek "puramis", a JN> sort of party-cake. These "mystic monuments" are really nothing more JN> than giant baklavas! ) Alternately: I remember a cartoon a few years ago showing scientists finally dismantling the GP to find out its true secret once & for all. About 1/3 the stones were removed, and part of a gigantic razor blade was exposed. Will Cuppy, author of _The Decline & Fall of Practically Everybody_, also offered an opinion that: "The pyramids of Egypt have remained standing for 5,000 years because it is not in the nature of a pyramid to tip over." 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: The Cegorach Area: Thelema To: All 5 Dec 94 06:06:46 Subject: Randolph UpdReq What has PB Randolph written? ... equal opportunity heretic. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Martin Krog-Poulsen Area: Thelema To: Keith S Schurholz 1 Dec 94 03:26:04 Subject: C.F. Russell and Michael Bertiaux UpdReq High Keith! 93! it was around Thursday November 17 1994 that Keith S Schurholz informed Tony Iannotti: KSS> Re: Bertiaux, have you picked up any new material of late -we So you're into Thelemic History? Well maybe then you can help me.... Do you know the "Story" behind Bertiaux's initiation of Peter Robert Knig up to the XIth Degree and the passing on the Authority of the Mem&Mis of the "Holy Roman Empire"? KSS> Keith S Schurholz M K-P 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Martin Krogh-Poulsen Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 1 Dec 94 03:42:06 Subject: C.F. Russell and Michael Bertiaux UpdReq well, hi Tony! it was around Monday October 31 1994 that Tony Iannotti informed Keith S Schurholz: KSS>> Also- are there any Krumm-Heller enthusiasts around? We are KSS>> near to completing a translation (Spanish to English) of his KSS>> "Logos , Mantram, and Magic" essay, as well as his larger book KSS>> on the Gnostic church. TI> Sounds interesting! I think you have everything we have in the TI> archives? Though I don't remember looking for K-H specifically. How can one get ahold of this "Logos, Mantram, and Magic" text? I am VERY interested :) M K-P 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ain Soph Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 28 Nov 94 23:53:02 Subject: Crowley on CDROM? UpdReq Hello Tony! Friday November 25 1994 09:21, Tony Iannotti wrote to Michael Aquino: MA>> No, I haven't seen any _AL_ parodies, TI> I think you'd find it entertaining. theres also a 'Liber You can call me AL well well now' .. think i found it in a newsletter from a Lodge somewhere .. Ain Soph 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Martin Krogh-Poulsen Area: Thelema To: Michael Aquino 1 Dec 94 03:10:04 Subject: Crowley on CDROM? UpdReq High Michael! it was around Thursday November 17 1994 that Michael Aquino informed Tony Iannotti: MA> All this and a CD to say how thou didst come hither and a GIF of this ink MA> and paper for ever - for in it is the word secret & not only in the MA> English - and thy comment upon this Book of the Law shall be encoded MA> beautifully in ANSI upon terminals made in Japan; and to each man and MA> woman that thou E-mails, were it but to flame them, it is the Law to give. MA> Then they shall chance to abide in this bliss or no; it is no odds. Do MA> this at 28,800 baud! HAHAHAHA!!! Rofl! Thou art a Humorous little devil.....;) Haha! M K-P 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Martin Krogh-Poulsen Area: Thelema To: Christeos Pir 1 Dec 94 03:37:06 Subject: More AC Bull. UpdReq well, hi Christeos! it was around Saturday November 19 1994 that Christeos Pir informed All: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. CP> been proven, where there's smoke there must be fire, therefore, Crowley CP> and all his idiot followers really DO smoke fetuses and poke each other CP> in the ass. Have you read P.R.Knig's "Thelema, repressed homosexuality and Paranoia"? Now THATs one big collection of AC and Thelemic Bull! Love is the law, love under will. CP> - Christeos Pir M K-P 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718