From: To Meta Therion Area: Thelema To: Alexander Haigh 8 Nov 94 16:20:00 Subject: Initiation UpdReq An odd thing occured to me today. I looked into the mirror and realized that the person looking back was not me. This may seem to be a simple realization, but it is very powerful when it hits one the right way. I found that my reflection offered up no information as to my personality, my likes, my dislikes, or my beliefs. It seems odd to me that so many people can judge others and say they know others by just looking at them in a club or on TV. I know that this is a basic idea, but what I am afraid others do not understand, is that I felt this completely when before, I just gave it a passing thought. Somehow, this idea has become a part of me, and I do not know from whence it came. Any ideas? It seems that the energies that I absorbed in my recent initiation have expanded themselves and are more diverse than I first thought. This thought struck me as hard if not more so as when I looked at a group of my peers and saw them all as nothing more than hairless apes journeying in and out of classes in a futile hope to make something of themselves, but luckily this was a more positive affirmation. I have arisen from an ambiguous and confusing state of mind to a more centered,peaceful, and happy ideal of humanity and those influences surrounding me. I sit and laugh to myself sometimes for no reason. I enjoy the very thrill of existence, its wonderful surprises and pains titillate me in a way that sends shivers of joy throughout my being. Who knew that life could be this grand? If all initiations are such as this, then how can I stop advancing myself? I now feel that I can hold at least the title of Zelator without a fear of preaching falsehoods to those that ask. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: To Meta Therion Area: Thelema To: Michael Aquino 8 Nov 94 16:39:44 Subject: Thelemic Order of the Golden Dawn UpdReq MA> I recently received a newsletter from an organization called the Thelemic MA> Temple and Order of the Golden Dawn, based in Los MA> Angeles and apparently the MA> joint creation of Christopher Hyatt and David Cherubim. MA> I have not had any previous contact with this MA> organization, and am curious to MA> know how it is regarded in the Thelemic community. I received a letter from them some time ago, and have recently sent them a list of questions that I hope they will answer concerning the purpose and direction of their order. It appears that they may have taken A.'.A.'. grades and ascribed them to an order that is more easily contacted and open. I haven't talked to anyone involved in the order on the net yet, but I'm sure somebody has to be out there lurking about. I assume that the idea has taken off though, if they are still sending out bulletins. Perhaps you could do a little research on it since you are closer than I (way over here in Cincinatti). I think the general state of those that have heard about it is curiosity, and not much more, but I guess we should wait and see if others take note of your message. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kayla Block Area: Thelema To: Joseph Max 8 Nov 94 07:48:04 Subject: Re: THELEMIC MEANINGS UpdReq 93 joseph! JM> KAYLA! Where ya been, girlfriend! I was just thinking about you the other JM> day, and was about to post a message to see if anyone had heard from ya i've been prowling the internet quite a bit, and starting to explore the possibilities of cyber-ritual. haven't been too active as far as posting anywhere goes.been more in lurk mode for some reason. still trying to make a trip north to go house-hunting. we'll have to hook up when i'm there. :-) JM> Hey, he asked me "if it was okay with me". Well, yes, JM> it is okay with me. I heh, well, i suppose you do have a point there....(i dont think i actually did see your original post). JM> Aside form that, where ya been - New Zealand or something ? Or just JM> lurking the nets in silence? Enquiring busybodies wanna know... hrmm...no, NZ has been permanently cancelled.... :-( anyway, hope to see you soon! 93, --kayla-- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Paul Hume Area: Thelema To: Michelle Hass 4 Nov 94 10:32:12 Subject: Natural laws? UpdReq Michelle - AH> There are no laws that cannot be subverted in one way or AH> another. MH> Well then, can "Do What Thou Wilt" be subverted? Depends how you defined subversion, I suspect (g). We have all probably been unlucky enough to run into the "Thelemite" who invokes "do what thou wilt..." to justify outrageous impositions on the Wills of others, ranging from theft to assaults ("sexual" or otherwise). And the no less insidious wanna-guru-bees who instruct that only by suppressing your perception of Will can allow you to grow into a big strong magician (the "do what *I* will shall be the whole of the Law" specimens). And of course, "the slaves shall serve" justifies anything you DO get away with. The Will, like Liberty, which seems to be to emanate from it, is a potent force, yet curiously, like Liberty, fragile. Without a certain amount of vigilant cultivation, and reinforcement by respecting it in others, it can be turned into something as alien to its organic and proper function as Liberty does when it becomes "Political Correctness." Just a thought. Paul 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Josh Norton Area: Thelema To: Andy Bender 4 Nov 94 11:55:00 Subject: Tzaddi Is Not The Star UpdReq AB> (Message originally from FRA:. MICHAEL 111 on the Qbl echo) F1> Sun Tzaddi Tz 90 Aquarius F1> Star Resh R 200 Sun AB> "Tzaddi is not the Star". Right? Why, then, is the adoration of the AB> Sun Liber Resh sub figura CC? That would imply that the Sun is, in AB> fact, Resh, number 200. I don't know if Fra. Michael was referring to this, but Crowley's original switch exchanged the Tarot cards for Tzaddi and Heh, not Tzaddi and Resh. Thus Tzaddi became "The Emperor" and Heh became "The Star". Personally, I don't buy it. ___ X SPEED 1.30 [NR] X 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718