From: Christeos Pir Area: Thelema To: Navitae 30 Aug 94 21:58:12 Subject: Re: More books... UpdReq -=> Navitae sent a message to Christeos Pir on 22 Aug 94 10:23:01 <=- -=> Re: Re: More books... <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Na> Excellent stuff! Just the sort of heresy I thrive on. Thanx for Na> the pointer, I'm going to look into it. The letter's in most recent issue of The Magical Link (Vol VII No 4), dated 9 Nov 1921. Na> I couldn't have said it better. You should do publicity work ;) Does being Camp Secretary and newsletter editor count? Na> One of my teachers told me to toss all the pre-1904 stuff I've Na> accumulated and this does seem to be the direction A.C. was going Na> in (rewriting the rituals etc). Hmm... IMO there's a big difference between recognizing the need to grow and evolve new modes that build upon the past, and throwing it all on a bonfire. "He who refuses to learn from history is doomed to repeat it." Learn from it and go on, yes. Toss it, no. (Just my 93 cents.) Love is the law, love under will. - Christeos Pir Fr. Vitriol Io, O.T.O. ... and verily I shall rise again, and my children about me, 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christeos Pir Area: Thelema To: Richard Waddington 30 Aug 94 22:01:48 Subject: Aiwass Oasis UpdReq -=> Richard Waddington sent a message to All on 28 Aug 94 19:04:40 <=- -=> Re: Aiwass Oasis <=- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. RW> Greetings to all Thelemites! 93, Y'all! RW> This is to inform you that the Oasis of Aiwass has just moved into RW> your area. We are seeking earnest initiates and aspirants to RW> communicate and be a part of a local OTO body. Please feel free to RW> contact us at: (209) 668-0910 and leave a message. You might want to modify this to include some indication of where you are, since this echo is seen pretty much around the world. Good to "see" you here anyway! Love is the law, love under will. - Christeos Pir Fr. Vitriol Io, Secretary William Blake Camp, O.T.O. (in the Washington DC metro area) ... Then let him sway the force of him to and fro like a satyr in silence, 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Wicked Area: Thelema To: All 27 Aug 94 01:16:02 Subject: crowly*ey UpdReq Anyone have a spare copy I could buy cheap?? (poor witch) Wicked 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jaq Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 30 Aug 94 22:24:32 Subject: Re: Secret Rites of the O.T.O. Rec'd UpdReq TI> It's not that common. Sometimes you find one for that price, but TI> more often you pay over a hundred for one. I paid 150 for the last one TI> I bought, but that was more to float a friend than "get it off the streets" TI> ..... ;-) Well I'm glad I found mine then. I had been trying to get a copy but w/ no luck and then I gave up. Thats when I found it. Whats this "get it off the streets" deal? eh? Justin Harvey 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jaq Area: Thelema To: Navitae 30 Aug 94 22:30:36 Subject: Re: More books... UpdReq N> Ja> Besides most references I can remember were N> Ja> putting down Crowley. N> N> Not that I recall. Bertiaux has complaints about A.C. as does N> just about anyone with brains, but he also incorporates a lot of N> Thelema in his stuff. One passage I remember was in reference to books like Liber AL. That any one could "channel" them, and Crowley wasn't so special. I can't embark on any real critisim of Bertiaux because I haven't seen his book in over 5 or 6 years(maybe more). But I read the book through and through, and the impression I got is that it seems to be really good stuff on the surface but the core was bull. Justin Harvey 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Alex Area: Thelema To: JOSH NORTON 29 Aug 94 16:33:00 Subject: Ashtar? UpdReq JN> did with her under the name of Ashtoreth -- i.e., changing her from aJN> female god into a male demon. Whoa!! First, I always thought it was Ashtaroth, not the spelling above. Second, the -oth ending in Hebrew is feminine plural, not maculine. Question... Keeping this in mind, how can you say that? The name is still feminine. B*B Alex * SLMR 2.1 * Do the Muses have PMS, too? When? Ah, shiiitttt!!! 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Kevin Bold Area: Thelema To: Christeos Pir 30 Aug 94 08:13:28 Subject: Re: Secret Rites of the O.T.O. UpdReq 93! CP> Trying to get them all "off the street," so to speak? Perhaps, like myself, he's tired of having only a photocopy and would like the "real thing" 93--93/93... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Fir Area: Thelema To: Tony Iannotti 29 Aug 94 06:22:00 Subject: Secret Rites of the O.T.O. Rec'd UpdReq Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Hi Tony! J> How common is "The Secret Rituals Of The OTO"? TI> It's not that common. You can say that again. When Grendel told me he found this at a used bookstore and that he left much behind I went to take a look. Picked up quite a bit including hardcovers of Regardie, Dion Fortune, one Eliphas Levi, etc. The store bought a 500 book collection (not all occult) from the the husband of a 60 year old woman who had died. Makes me wonder about the woman who collected all those books! Other topics in her collection included alternate living styles (farmsteading, etc.) and architecture. Love is the law, love under will. Fir 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Tony Iannotti Area: Thelema To: Jaq 1 Sep 94 13:51:16 Subject: Re: Secret Rites of the O.T.O. UpdReq -=> Quoting Jaq to Tony Iannotti <=- Ja> Well I'm glad I found mine then. I had been trying to get a copy Ja> but w/ no luck and then I gave up. Thats when I found it. Without lust of result..... Ja> Whats this "get it off the streets" deal? eh? I prefer to have OTO rituals, and even mangled copies, in the hands of OTO people. `~~~ PGPBLUE 2.0 ... If you would know a man, observe how your cat treats him. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Tony Iannotti Area: Thelema To: Fir 1 Sep 94 14:02:10 Subject: Re: Secret Rites of the O.T.O. UpdReq -=> Quoting Fir to Tony Iannotti <=- Fi> You can say that again. When Grendel told me he found this Fi> at a used bookstore and that he left much behind I went to take Fi> a look. Picked up quite a bit including hardcovers of Regardie, Fi> Dion Fortune, one Eliphas Levi, etc. Nice haul! Fi> The store bought a 500 book collection (not all occult) from the Fi> the husband of a 60 year old woman who had died. Makes me wonder Fi> about the woman who collected all those books! Yeah, the old Crowley-o's from the 50's, 60's and 70's are dropping left and right. Found a bunch of first editions here in NYC last year. Marginalia from one of Achad's students. By the way, I have not yet found my Mezla's. As soon as I locate them I will get the comment on Liber 66 out. Sorry for the delays! `~~~ PGPBLUE 2.0 ... A bird in the hand can be messy. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718