From: Josh Norton Area: Thelema To: Kreizenski 11 Jun 92 19:01:18 Subject: Re: Creation/Destruction UpdReq Our PODNET node is going down for about 10 days, and I'm not sure I'll get back on with a detailed reply to you and Steve before it does. I can see that we have more areas of disagreement than just the point of this discussion. A couple of quick comments on correspondences: 1. Astrologically, Taurus (usually equated to the Hierophant) represents Custom as the basis of social order. That is, the attitude of "Granny did it that way, so that's the way I'm going to do it". It relates more to the village elders as keepers of lore and tradition than it does to priesthoods in the formal, organized religious sense. 2. Jupiter rules Catholic-style priesthoods because it is the ruler of Pisces, the sign governing religion, and also the ruler of Saggitarius, the sign that governs both philosophy and religious visions. I use Frater Achad's version of the Tree of Life, rather than the supposedly "traditional" G.D. version. Since his version of the Tree is almost entirely based on astrological lore, these interpretations fit in very well. I'll agree that in the G.D. Tree, other considerations seem to be more prominent. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Norton Area: Thelema To: Kreizenski 11 Jun 92 19:14:32 Subject: Re: Creation/Destruc 2/ UpdReq I want to leave you with one more thought. You say that creation and destruction are equal because they are both part of the evolutionary process. Did it ever occur to you that the global evolutionary process (both mundane and spiritual) is itself the product of an ongoing creative act? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Fra.: Nachash Area: Thelema To: Steven Craig 12 Jun 92 09:28:52 Subject: Re: DMT UpdReq In a msg on Have you heard about the new, easily grown plants that FN> contain high levels of DMT? Check out a company names FN> `...of the jungle' located in Sebastopol, CA. They also FN> have plants and seeds of the South American plants FN> available. SC> I have an electronic catalog from "...Of the Jungle", and they SC> have some really neat stuff. However, might you know the name of SC> the plant in question? If I am not mistaken, the electronic catalog you have is out of date... You should try writing them and get the new '92 catalog! Here is a description of one very interesting item they offer: ============= Acacia phlebophylla Leguminosae. One of the most rare and sadly, most endangered of Acacia species, an endemic confined to the rocky declivities on the granite slopes of Mount Buffalo Massif in southern Australia. Its native elevation gets some snow, so this will be a relatively hardy tree in cultivation. The 6" x 3" leaves are broad, thick and leathery; heavy when dry, with triple the properties of Psychotria ^^^^^^ viridis yet much more vigorous & adaptable. Makes an excellent trimmed hedge for borders or cerebral maze gardens. Adopt this endangered species! ============= In other words, this plant contains 3 times the DMT that is found in Psychotria viridis! 93! NChSh 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Fra.: Nachash Area: Thelema To: Mike Pfeiffer 12 Jun 92 09:38:48 Subject: Re: DMT UpdReq In a msg on Thanks! I will look into it. Don't know nothin' 'bout no MP> Magick Plants echo. Tell me more... -!- TBBS v2.1/NM Ask Frater Ehubi about picking it up from one of his links. The echo has very little traffic, but it is dedicated to all things ethnobotanical/entheogenic! 93! NChSh 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Fra.: Nachash Area: Thelema To: Frater Almost 12 Jun 92 09:41:36 Subject: HOLINESS FROM THE LORD Rec'd UpdReq In a msg on Hagios Dio.... Hagios Iommi.... Hagios Appice.... AUMGN! AUMGN! FA> AUMGN! The New Black Sabbath Album with the 1983 Lineup of FA> players is coming out on or about the Solstice..... It sounds FA> absolutely GREAT! It's called "Dehumanizer" and is going to make FA> all of the GNR / METALLICA / DEF LEPARD crap look like the trash FA> that it is......... Watch out! ;) Pax! 93 -!- TBBS v2.1/NM Finally! When they hit the road you will have to come down to N.O. so's we can go check them out ;) If they can keep the pace with their Heaven and Hell & Mob Rules efforts, then it will be delightful! Hey, I think Metallica are okay! No need to throw them in the line with GNR and DL, sheesh.... ;) 93! NChSh 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718