From: Julia Phillips Area: Base of Set To: Albert Saperstein 18 Oct 94 18:26:42 Subject: UK _ Criminal Justice Bill Rec'd UpdReq Hello Albert! 15 Oct 94 13:15, Albert Saperstein wrote to Julia Phillips: AS> Interesting how the story has not appeared in the "news media" AS> here, but is all over the 'Net. Ah well, and to be sure I'm a prolific poster AS> Censorship IS dead, but I often wonder how long it will take to AS> lay down. I often think those of us living in a "free" society suffer worse censorship than others who *know* their news is censored :( B*B Julia 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Balanone Area: Base of Set To: Julia Phillips 18 Oct 94 16:04:00 Subject: UK _ Criminal Justice Bill UpdReq On Oct 11, Julia Phillips wrote in a message to Balanone: JP> An article related to the Criminal Justice Bill from "The JP> Independent" newspaper dated 10 October (Britain). JP> ... JP> Last night officers from New Scotland Yard said it was one JP> of the worst riots they had seen since the poll tax JP> demonstrations. They believed the rally had been infiltrated JP> by an element determined to see violence at the end of what JP> had started out as a peaceful march. JP> Trouble flared about 5.00pm when several thousand protestors JP> tried to stage a rave party at Speakers' Corner. The JP> proposed Bill will restrict such parties. They tried to JP> bring two sound systems into the park and began to dance and JP> beat drums. As police tried to break them up, other JP> campaigners swarmed back into the park. JP> ***ends JP> As it says "proposed" Bill, it obviously hasn't been passed JP> yet. The various civil rights organisations were protesting JP> vigorously last I heard, but whether it will do any good.... Thanks for the post. Interestingly, I happened to be in London when it happened, and from everything I can tell from a couple of newspapers I read, the violence seemed to be carefully planned and executed by people more interested in a violent demonstration than in the merits or problems of the proposed bill. Balanone PP FidoNet: Balanone at 1:203/444.15 Internet: Balanone@tefnut.astaroth.sacbbx.com 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Albert Saperstein Area: Base of Set To: Julia Phillips 19 Oct 94 22:20:24 Subject: UK _ Criminal Justice Bill UpdReq American society is by no means "free", but then again, "freedom" is an elusive concept. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718