From: Josh Area: Base of Set To: Grendel 27 Jun 92 18:08:00 Subject: SATAN???? UpdReq GG> Oh my. I'm afraid now. GG> What about poor deluded pagans like myself worshiping those GG> sicko ancient gods? GG> -= Grendel =- Heh heh. No shit. -=Josh=- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Josh Area: Base of Set To: Succubus 27 Jun 92 18:11:00 Subject: Greetings UpdReq SS> Greetings all! Just wanted to say "howdy" and introduce myself. SS> I've been involved in Satanism for about 10 years now, and am SS> currently a member of the Ordo Templi Satanis (III'). Seems SS> like a nice cozy echo you've got here! Greetings to you too. Yes, this is usually one of the better echoes. Glad to see "real" people turning up. This has turned into Geraldo in here lately. -* Josh *- 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Ammond Shadowcraft Area: Base of Set To: Oz Tech 27 Jun 92 08:52:00 Subject: RE: My public Key... UpdReq -=> Quoting Oz Tech to Ammond Shadowcraft <=- OT> Well, Ammond, I can tell where you've been spending your time! OT> I've just made the leap to the West Coast. I hope all is well with you OT> & yours.Could you MCImail me some of those meme writings? They're quite OT> good. Will do. Welcome back to our little corner of CyberSpace. ... We learn from history that we do not learn from history. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Conqueror Area: Base of Set To: Ammond Shadowcraft 26 Jun 92 07:51:00 Subject: Re: SATAN???? UpdReq AS> TC> Satan is a loser, and anybody who follows it, is going to lose AS> TC> also. AS> AS> Just how old are you? AS> Why does it matter? How old or young are you? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: The Conqueror Area: Base of Set To: Grendel 26 Jun 92 07:55:00 Subject: Re: SATAN???? UpdReq Gr> > Satan is a loser, and anybody who follows it, is going to lose Gr> also. Gr> > Why don't you stop TRYING to be a rebel for a dumb cause , and Gr> start Gr> > thinking what you are doing. If you enjoy pain and agony then you Gr> are Gr> > going to the right place --- STRAIGHT TO HELL. Have Fun !!!!! Gr> Gr> Oh my. I'm afraid now. Gr> Gr> What about poor deluded pagans like myself worshiping those sicko Gr> ancient gods? Gr> Well your right about one thing, you are worshiping a sicko god. As for myself, My God is ancient, but he is also present. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Phule Area: Base of Set To: The Conqueror 26 Jun 92 23:34:00 Subject: Re: SATAN???? UpdReq Hail Eris, I am not a Satanist, or a Setian, but I do find it at least mildly offensive to call up and find an attack like this. I read this echo because it has a lot of neat info going back and forth through it. There ae christians here, but people like Pale Rider usually post at least SOMTHING that is some kind of information in there messages. I really don't think this echo is th place to launch an attack on sombody's superstition. If you want to do that you should get a TV show. In a message to All <06-24-92 01:40> The Conqueror wrote: TC> Satan is a loser, and anybody who follows it, is going to lose TC> also. Why don't you stop TRYING to be a rebel for a dumb cause , and TC> start thinking what you are doing. If you enjoy pain and agony then TC> you are going to the right place --- STRAIGHT TO HELL. Have Fun TC> !!!!! Besides, the Trinity can't get rid of Satan. They need a fourth for bridge. All Hail Discordia! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Phule Area: Base of Set To: The Conqueror 26 Jun 92 23:43:00 Subject: Re: SATAN???? UpdReq TC> Well your right about one thing, you are worshiping a sicko TC> god. As for myself, My God is ancient, but he is also present. Do you know what God(s) Grendle Worships? If not how do you know that they/it is/are (a) 'sicko'? As for me, I'm sure my Lady Eris is just as 'present' as your god. and the same for Lwob Citsalp, Keeper of the Seal. How ancient is your god, Christian? 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frc Area: Base of Set To: Ammond Shadowcraft 27 Jun 92 10:13:00 Subject: Re: Zorastrian UpdReq AS> Then help yourself by dialing into you local library and see if AS> they have encyclopedias online. C. Springs has two online. Your AS> city may have one or two. Look up Zoroaster. It's Persian. I have been telling him (as you know) for months now to use the dial-up at the Central library here. He dodged that one by saying he has some books three months overdue (because he couldn't bear to part with them). I guess he is unfamiliar with extension of loan by phone. Works for everyone else I know who knows how to use a library. Methinks _some_ people intentionally shoot themselves in the foot (whether they are conscious of it or not). 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frc Area: Base of Set To: Diane Vera 27 Jun 92 10:32:00 Subject: Re: Greetings Rec'd UpdReq DV> But I have some major disagreements DV> with the ToS philosophy. (Most notably, the dichotomy between DV> "Nature-worshipping religions" and "Psyche-worshipping religions", DV> with Christianity somehow classified as a "Nature-worshipping DV> religion", does not make sense to me.) I think you'll find, as you probably have by now, that not all Setians would necessarily agree with that definition either. No one is required to "rubber stamp" this sort of view in the Temple of Set. It seems a focus on _one_ portion of the semantic hydra; which any atempt at finally defining the LHP/RHP dichotomy seems to be. My feeling is that the submission aspect of the major Moslem/Judeo-Christian sects is the "union" being refered to in the Temple of Set's statement. It is not the same as the "drop merging into the ocean" mentality of the Taoist or Eastern Indian Yogic paradigm, for example. But the "flavor", to me, is that which is being spoken of here. Again, only my opinion. The term "Nature Worship" does not seem to me to be a particularly good way of wording it, but even within Christianity there is the "vale of tears/man born between feces and urine" mentality and there is the Christian ascetic mentality (like St. Francis of Assisi) which seems almost like Eastern mysticism. BTW, of our group of five, three are now Adepts. I was recently Recognized. Xeper 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Frc Area: Base of Set To: Grendel 27 Jun 92 10:34:00 Subject: Re: SATAN???? UpdReq Gr> > thinking what you are doing. If you enjoy pain and agony then you Gr> are Gr> > going to the right place --- STRAIGHT TO HELL. Have Fun !!!!! Gr> Oh my. I'm afraid now. Me too! Gr> What about poor deluded pagans like myself worshiping those sicko Gr> ancient gods? Just wait Jesus gets his hands on you, you litle bastard! :D 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Pale Rider Area: Base of Set To: Ammond Shadowcraft 28 Jun 92 08:06:00 Subject: Re: Zorastrian UpdReq AS> Then help yourself by dialing into you local library and see if AS> they have encyclopedias online. C. Springs has two online. Your AS> city may have one or two. Look up Zoroaster. It's Persian. The library doesn't include the encyclopedia on-line. Your city must be lucky. We just have the card catalog and a community database on-line. Plus, the main library is like in downtown Tulsa. I hate driving down there. It usually takes a few weeks to get a book in, if you request it at a local branch..... But, I'll try anyway..... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Base of Set To: The Conqueror 28 Jun 92 19:33:40 Subject: Re: SATAN???? Sent UpdReq TC> Well your right about one thing, you are TC> worshiping a sicko god. As for myself, My God is TC> ancient, but he is also present. You are assuming here that all Satanists actually worship Satan. Some do, some don't. Pay attention to the conversations if you want to learn about comparative Satanist philosophy rather than just preaching to a disinterested audience. Nitpicking point: You insinuate that your god is present and "sicko" Satan is not. So what are you worried about then? The xtian duality concept falls apart with your own logic, not that any of it has any importance to those of us with other philosophies. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Base of Set To: Phule 28 Jun 92 19:38:04 Subject: Re: SATAN???? Sent UpdReq P> Besides, the Trinity can't get rid of Satan. They P> need a fourth for bridge. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!! 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Base of Set To: Frc 28 Jun 92 19:40:26 Subject: Re: Zorastrian Sent UpdReq F> at the Central library here. He dodged that one by saying he has some F> books three months overdue (because he couldn't bear F> to part with them). Ripping off the library??!! Stealing, thieving, from a genuine `thou shalt not steal' type xtian??!!! Of course, what else would you expect? The preach and preach, but watch them..and your backs. 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Base of Set To: Frc 28 Jun 92 19:43:20 Subject: Re: SATAN???? Sent UpdReq F> Just wait Jesus gets his hands on you, you litle bastard! F> :D I'd have him busted for sexual harrassment... 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718 From: Markie Chao Area: Base of Set To: Pale Rider 28 Jun 92 19:45:00 Subject: Re: Zorastrian Sent UpdReq PR> The library doesn't include the encyclopedia on- PR> line. Your city must be lucky. We just have the PR> card catalog and a community database on-line. PR> Plus, the main library is like in downtown Tulsa. I hate driving down PR> there. It usually takes a few weeks to get a book PR> in, if you request it at a local branch..... But, PR> I'll try anyway..... How generous of you to make an effort, rather than waiting for people to spoon feed all of your studying to you... Nothing personal Pale. ;) 718499927771849992777184999277718499927771849992777184999277718