From:    Saracen                                Area: RPSTOVAL
To:      Rebis                                  31 Mar 92 14:46:20
Subject: Re: "DO WHAT THOU WILT"                

Rebis-
> With respect to the ability to discover and accomplish one's Will:  
> Does a person who has read Liber AL or who has been exposed to the 
> Law of Thelema, in some form or another, have any advantage, or 
> disadvantage, relative to a person who has not?
The question that this brings to my mind is...what of the person who 
already held this worldview before ever reading Liber AL? I also wonder 
if the symbol and thought set tied into Liber AL could also trip up some 
people who automatically do their Will because they cannot concieve of doing
otherwise...and when they are introduced to the concept that it is possible
to do other than hir Will, sie ends up in the centipede's dilemma?
   
Simply stating this seems to imply a dilemma of its own...it seems to me
that my query implies that if an individual makes no effort to other than
their Will...they will by default be following the Law of Thelema. It 
seems quite astounding what one can do when one doesn't know what one 
can't do. :}
   
        Any commentary or further questions anyone?
         93 93/93
                Ann

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From:    Rebis                                  Area: RPSTOVAL
To:      Saracen                                 1 Apr 92 17:56:08
Subject: Re: "DO WHAT THOU WILT"                

If someone already holds a Thelemic world view, then introduction to the Book 
of the Law should be an affirming experience to such a person.  If someone 
gets "tripped up" by exposure to the Law of Thelema, then perhaps that person 
wasn't _really_ doing his or her true will in the first place.
 The fact that a person acts according to what appears to be necessity does 
not mean that such a course of action is "true" for that person.

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From:    Gerald Del Campo                       Area: RPSTOVAL
To:      Rebis                                   2 Apr 92 22:23:42
Subject: Re: "DO WHAT THOU WILT"                

In a message dated 01 Apr 92  17:56:08, Rebis wrote:
 R>  The fact that a person acts according to what appears to be necessity
R> does not mean that such a course of action is "true" for that person.
How do you see doing one's True Will different than "adapting" to 
circumstances.  Does the magician manipulate reality by demanding or willing 
that it change?  or does he change his perception or reality in order to 
exist in harmony?
... RPSTOVAL Oasis:  Badges?  We don't need no stinking badges!


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From:    Tony Iannotti                          Area: RPSTOVAL
To:      Gerald Del Campo                        3 Apr 92 09:09:00
Subject: Re: RPSTOVAL                           Sent UpdReq 

GDC>Do you mean MASS as in the state? or MASS as in the EGC Mass?  Is his motto
GDC>Daemon?  If it is him, I have disccused it with him at
GDC>length, and I dont necessarily buy his interpretation
GDC>either.  No, I haven't come up with any revelations as of
  Yep, that's the fellow. Quite mad, of course, but...
GDC>yet...I beleive that the key is in that grided page
GDC>however, and that the RPSTOVAL part is the secret.  I have
GDC>to keep trying different things with it until something
GDC>clicks  :)  Have you done any similar Work?
   I havre
 * SLMR 2.1a * We all live in a yellow subroutine.


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From:    Tony Iannotti                          Area: RPSTOVAL
To:      Gerald Del Campo                        3 Apr 92 09:11:02
Subject: Re: RPSTOVAL                           Sent UpdReq 

GDC>Do you mean MASS as in the state? or MASS as in the EGC Mass?  Is his motto
GDC>Daemon?  If it is him, I have disccused it with him at
GDC>length, and I dont necessarily buy his interpretation
GDC>either.  No, I haven't come up with any revelations as of
   Yep, that's the one! Quite mad of course, but. ;-)
GDC>yet...I beleive that the key is in that grided page
GDC>however, and that the RPSTOVAL part is the secret.  I have
GDC>to keep trying different things with it until something
GDC>clicks  :)  Have you done any similar Work?
  I have attempted a pathworking explanation, but with no real success
  so far. I wonder if the cipher and the path working might both be
  dove-tailed parts?
 * SLMR 2.1a * All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?


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