From: David Chessler Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jeffrey Bloss 7 May 95 02:09:00 Subject: Re: encrypted messages UpdReq On 05-03-95 (10:12), Jeffrey Bloss, in a message to David Chessler about "RE: ENCRYPTED MESSAGES", stated the following: >DC>> for financial transactions. By your count, the US regulates >cryptography >DC>> for internal use. Well, yes, but only for a specific purpose, and >only to JB>Apples and oranges... setting a "standard" for a specific use wasn't at >all what I was talking about. I'm talking about having to meet some >sort of legal requirement before using any personal encryption >software.. be it membership in one of the "standardized" groups such as >banking or military, or an individual encryption "driver's license" >issued and/or controlled by a third party, and carrying legal penalties >for non-compliance. JB>I claim, and have backed up with references, that contrary to your You have referred to a number of documents, but, by not giving specific citations to them in printed format or their URLs, there is no way anyone can verify your claim. >belief "many" countries restrict or regulate the use of personal >encryption software... and that more and more countries are tightening As far as is known, these restrictions apply only to specific uses of encryption. General personal use, via Email, Fax or telephone is unrestricted in most countries. Restrictions apply only to telegraph and telex. >this control. Your own account of actions in the former Soviet Union >would also seem to support this claim. No. The Soviet Union had been completely unrestricted by law, until the current decree. This does not support your claim. JB>DC>> JB>... Why put Braille dots on the keypads of drive-up ATM's? JB>DC>> Ever use one by walking up to it? JB>Ever hear the words "tag line"? You're responsible for the tag line. You must have believed it made sense, or was funny, or you would not have written or stolen it, much less used it. > * Origin: Meadville Online (1:2601/551.0) -- ___ __ david.chessler@neteast.com d_)--/d chessler@capaccess.org chessler@trinitydc.edu * SLMR 2.1b * E-mail: ->132 1:109/459 david.chessler@neteast.com 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: David Chessler Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jeffrey Bloss 7 May 95 02:13:00 Subject: Re: encrypted messages UpdReq On 05-03-95 (21:24), Jeffrey Bloss, in a message to David Chessler about "RE: ENCRYPTED MESSAGES", stated the following: JB>DC>> Maybe. NSA has nothing directly to do with export licensing. JB>The NSA *is* the approving authority for exportable encryption >algorithms. The NSA gets a copy of your source code, they review it and >make recommendations, you implement them (or not), and are then given a >license (or not). ;) You may have to go through another agency to get >there, but the NSA has first and final say in the matter. :(( No. The State Department has the final say in the matter. If you can convince State that it is in the National Interest for you to be granted an export license, it will be granted. Arguments may include the availability of the software or algorithm abroad, the essential need for encryption, the industry you are in and so forth. NSA's recommendation carries weight, but it remains a recomendation, as does Defense's recommendation for conventional munitions. ITAR is enforced by the State Department, and the State Department must take responsibility for the decisions. > * Origin: Meadville Online (1:2601/551.0) -- ___ __ david.chessler@neteast.com d_)--/d chessler@capaccess.org chessler@trinitydc.edu * SLMR 2.1b * E-mail: ->132 1:109/459 david.chessler@neteast.com 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Robert Purnell Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 8 May 95 00:07:20 Subject: Congressional E-mail question UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello All, Considering the current atmosphere of "the need to control something" to prevent terrorist activity, and the suggestion of banning PGP to assist those ends, doeas anyone on this echo have a congressional E-mail directory so we can get our opinions to our representatives with a clear sig at the bottom of our message? Thanks, Bob -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: robert.purnell@cocolib.hi.net iQCVAwUBL6wQG6Ukq042JVlZAQHoIAP/YqnRnwRaLKC2RHit3VTPacKM7ISnPgJl f+Hk8xsx8XYoTHQeFE01kJZLFloiUCwG1F0kZ8pynHWahfiVsVwg1mCm25XE91Nz gtcTH3bsfku5TG0JkOxVqIaJlc5O6zR+v7qaIMz9cuAeVe6jeRqraYK2d92LtiFO n6BC7OXWpOs= =OkU1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: ISLANDER 7 May 95 13:21:28 Subject: keyring problems UpdReq Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, ISLANDER said this to JEFF TROWBRIDGE: I> Using "-m" does page the display (and PGP has a built-in pager if I> you don't want to worry about picking one), but it seems I> obnoxiously slow when I try it. The built-in pager doesn't I> have a print option, either. There is another reason to use the built-in pager; it doesn't write anything to the hard drive. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718