From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: Richard Dale 5 Mar 95 01:22:34 Subject: Quotes as passphrase UpdReq Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, Richard Dale said this to Shawn Mcmahon: RD> And I pointed out that I *have* done the monitoring before, a point RD> which you conveniently ignored. RD> The whole unit should be shielded. Please read some literature RD> on the subject and get up to speed with what's going on. I asked for the names of articles and/or texts showing I was wrong, a point which you conveniently ignored. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: Chris Adams 5 Mar 95 01:27:10 Subject: Quotes as passphrase UpdReq Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, Chris Adams said this to Shawn McMahon: CA> Also, if you have a decent backbone feed, what's the problem? The problem, as I stated in the message to which you replied, is LONG DISTANCE CHARGES. Believe it or not, some of us have to *PAY ACTUAL MONEY* to get more echoes. And don't say I oughta join up with the others bringing in echoes in my area; I *AM* the others bringing in echoes in my area. If you have a reference I can check out of the library, or one you'd like to send me, by all means give me the ISBN number or send me routed netmail. But I'm not picking up hundreds of useless messages just so *I* can ask some guy I never heard of (and whose name I don't know) to re-post something. Why don't *YOU* ask him to repost it, and cross-post it here? If you have a decent backbone feed, what's the problem? 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Mark West Area: Public Key Encryption To: Armando Ortiz 19 Feb 95 16:34:20 Subject: unauthorized info gatheri UpdReq In a message to Christopher Baker on , Armando Ortiz wrote: AO> Besides, if there's a DOS interface, why not make a AO> Windows interface? There are already several fine ones, at least one of which has no registeration fees. Oddly, I prefer that one over the other Windows PGP shells. Has nothing to do with being free either. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Gordon Campbell Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 3 Mar 95 22:42:44 Subject: PGP w/GoldEd UpdReq I'm having a huge problem integrating PGP with the GoldEd's internal editor. I used the settings suggested in the docs and evrything works beautifully except signing the message. When I try to do that, all I get is a blank, signed message. Could somebody who's using GoldEd post the relelvant sections of their config for me? Thanks. Cheers, .....G 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Tim Witteveen 2 Mar 95 15:51:56 Subject: Re: Re: unauthorized info ga UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 26 Feb 95, Tim Witteveen was quoted as saying: TW> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- TW> ___--BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- TW> Version: 2.6.2 TW> ___--END PGP SIGNATURE----- TW> ~~~ PGPBLUE 3.0 TW> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 TW> --- Maximus 2.01wb something bit your sig delimiters. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL1Yv8ssQPBL4miT5AQFc3wQAroRwalyxnMspJUeTkmEtJOSfk5I0JTSZ yQmHv6krkbc492jtK90poW2ijGLxSk/OBnZUTiH/7eknU73mdS4Ivc8hido3nu1a Ter9oR6rE15GMaSQz7TP8wnQgK1hXOyA9a3bJi36IRngCwL2h/pJBmkpv7pcphyG jyUrztOAMXo= =XdDi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Zorch Frezberg Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 2 Mar 95 05:23:30 Subject: Quotes as passphrase UpdReq In a msg on , Shawn McMahon of 1:19/34 writes to Nolan Lee: NL>> It's called TEMPEST. :-) Check it out. SM> TEMPEST is the shielding "standard" for blocking the emmissions SM> of one's CRT and keyboard, Nolan. SM> Please quote me a source for it's necessity in blocking the RF of SM> one's CPU. FCC monitor vans cruising Silicon Valley about three months after the 486-DX33 was released. About 25 citations were issued for excess RFI from the then-new CPUs; this happened again with the DX2-66, though not as many citations issued. I've not heard of anything from the Pentiums, even though their operating speed is inside the FM band... That's off the top of the head...I'll have to dig for specific dates and numbers. -zf- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Frits Spieker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Glen Todd 1 Mar 95 10:23:00 Subject: Can I Freq Pgp? UpdReq And then Glen Todd mumbled something about 'Can I Freq Pgp?'. GT> chance of leaving something unprotected by mistake -- but I'd GT> definitely like to see a _much_ higher level of integration, both on GT> the reader level and on the FTSC (message/packet) level. You'll be happy to know that Odinn integrated -sort of- GOLDPGP in the latest beta (and alpha) releases of GoldEd 2.50. GOLDPGP is a small, yet very cool Dutch utility to make working with PGP and GoldEd a breeze. By implementing it in the code of GEd itself it has even become easier... So I would say: there is hope yet ;-) CU l8er, // Frits // 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Juergen Werner 4 Mar 95 17:07:38 Subject: Re: key UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 28 Feb 95, Juergen Werner stated: JW> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- JW> Version: 2.3a JW> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- please post keys in the PKEY_DROP Echo. thanks. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL1jkr8sQPBL4miT5AQG3bwP+MbA/YC5rJnnVTYp1FvOMBGEDzsgD1PG+ gfA2K1lWtvE3veU6xXanEFUoNCH6WpvE5+EdaCEoh/NcaUGyo6FkU2yTCiteOd3q aGmk/HJ8RZXAw753UPCreruJLSMlzIb7Tnsy9Sad+9Ooj4ntvQECEHj9lWdqnEwx Q0T0dbH80x4= =CClp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: gk pace Area: Public Key Encryption To: John Roman 4 Mar 95 18:53:06 Subject: Re: Re: Golded @enc: PGP UpdReq In a message dated: 03 Mar 95, John Roman stated: JR> On 1 Mar 95, Glen Todd wrote to John Roman: JR> GT> I've figured out how to do that as well (@ENC seems to give FastEcho JR> GT> heartburn for some reason), as well as pointing out to Odinn that his JR> GT> algorithm was erroneously identifing clearsigned messages as being JR> GT> encrypted (which they are not, as we all know.) JR> So far I haven't heard any reason that it's necessary or JR> required, so why put it in? I did see that Odinn acknowledged JR> that he needs to differentiate between encrypted and clearsigned JR> stuff. That's a step in the right direction. Good work pointing JR> that out to him in a way that he was receptive to it. JR> John. The purpose of the ENC: flag is to identify the "utility" used, rather than for declaring it to be "encrypted". PGP is the most widely used, but not the "only" utility useable for encryption... or for "clear-signed" messages. This Flag may be used by some to identify "encryption"... so be it. But it's real purpose - and the one for which it will be most used in the future, is for determining what utility a message reader must call to decipher/test it. GenMsg has used this Flag since it was first proposed... and it has always added it to clear-signed messages as well as encrypted, and signed-ascii- armored messages. You are right - ClearSigned messages are NOT encrypted... but they do require the use of a special utility for verification... the ENC: flag identifies that utility. -gk 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Gorges Area: Public Key Encryption To: Steve Linton 4 Mar 95 21:45:46 Subject: Re: PGPBLUE & BLUEWAVE UpdReq SL> On Feb. 12, 1995 I wrote the following letter to Bruce Davis. It SL> appears that FIDO ATE IT! So I will try again! If any body can help SL> me, please respond! SL> Thanks, SL> Steve-- SL> I have followed the installation procedures to the letter, yet when I SL> try to run it I get the following error message from PGP: SL> "Error: 'pgpblue.tmp' is not a ciphertext, signature, or key file." SL> Then my editor appears with the original encrypted text all quoted! If SL> I tell Bluewave not to quote the message, then I get the same error SL> message, and the editor appears with a blank screen! This all occured SL> when trying to decrypt a message. Steve: I have encountered the same problem trying to decrypt a cyphertext. I have come to the conclusion that Bluewave is passing quoted text (including the SL> at the beginning of lines) to PGP. Since PGP sees 5 characters at the beginning of lines which it doesn't recognize, it send the error message and drops back to the editor. I was under the impression PGPBlue was supposed to ignore the first 5 characters, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I work around the problem as follows: 1) When back in the editor, insert [MENU] as the first line of the message. 2) Use the editor to delete the first five characters of every line starting with -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE up to and including ----- END PGP MESSAGE. I use QEDIT and have inserted a macro to do this. 3) Save the "editted" message. This should drop you to the PGPBlue menu. 4) Select D to decrypt. This certainly is NOT the way this program was supposed to work, but I have found no other way to overcome the problem. Not very elegant, but it seems to work. I'm trying to find a way to contact Carl Forester. His netmail address (1:366/515) is no longer in the fidonet nodelist. I'm hoping he still reads the Bluewave echo. I don't know why you're having a problem with clearsigning. Decrypting is the only function which doesn't work correctly in my installation. Jim Internet: Jim.Gorges@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Bruce Davis Area: Public Key Encryption To: Steve Linton 5 Mar 95 08:31:10 Subject: PGPBLUE & BLUEWAVE UpdReq -=> Quoting Steve Linton to All on 02-21-95 21:07 EST <=- SL> On Feb. 12, 1995 I wrote the following letter to Bruce Davis. It SL> appears that FIDO ATE IT! So I will try again! If any body can help SL> me, please respond! First time I've seen the message, however....here goes. When I first got PGPBlue, I too had all sorts of problems. I finally ended up deleting the program, and re-installing it step by step with docs in hand. I can tell that you are frustrated at this point and I know these words might not be of much help, but that it what it took for me to get it going.......AND it WAS worthwhile to do so. PGPBlue runs without a flaw and I use it on a daily basis. If you want to work through this over the phone let me know and I'll send you a phone number. ~~~ PGPBLUE 3.0 -- Bruce Davis bruce.davis@mercopus.com Tampa, FL bldavis@gate.net PGP Key Available on Request ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20m Beta 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: John Roman Area: Public Key Encryption To: Gordon Campbell 5 Mar 95 11:46:18 Subject: Re: PGP w/GoldEd UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3 Mar 95 10:42pm, Gordon Campbell said the following: GC> I'm having a huge problem integrating PGP with the GoldEd's internal GC> editor. I used the settings suggested in the docs and evrything works GC> beautifully except signing the message. When I try to do that, all I GC> get is a blank, signed message. Could somebody who's using GoldEd post GC> the relelvant sections of their config for me? Thanks. Hi Gordon, lucky for you I just spent last weekend figuring this one out. The original PGP instructions in the GoldED manual are wrong. The instructions in the GOLDPGP.DOC file in the new 2.50 Beta5 is right. The problem is that PGP won't create a clearsigned text file with the same name as the original file without wiping it out (you get signature only [a correct one too], but the text gets lost). Some of these switches may not work with the 2.4x versions of GoldED. The -NoKeepCtrl prevents the GoldED tearline and origin line from being included in the signature block (Nice...because previously I had just turned off the GoldED tear and origin lines to get around that). ================cut from advanced.cfg========================== ; ------------------------------------------------------------------ ; External utility definition for PGP ; ------------------------------------------------------------------ IF DOS EXTERNUTIL 1 -Wipe -NoKeepCtrl pgp.exe +force -sta @tmpfile -u "@oname" -o @file EXTERNUTIL 2 -Wipe -NoKeepCtrl pgp.exe +force -sea @tmpfile "@dname" -u "@oname" -o @file EXTERNUTIL 3 -Wipe pgp.exe +force @tmpfile -o @file EXTERNUTIL 4 tagdude.exe -add3 @file EXTERNUTIL 5 F:\SS\SS.EXE @file ELSEIF OS/2 EXTERNUTIL 1 -Wipe -NoKeepCtrl pgp2.exe +force -sta @tmpfile -u "@oname" -o @file EXTERNUTIL 2 -Wipe -NoKeepCtrl pgp2.exe +force -sea @tmpfile "@dname" -u "@oname" -o @file EXTERNUTIL 3 -Wipe pgp2.exe +force @tmpfile -o @file ENDIF ; ------------------------------------------------------------------ ; Enable the "Save menu" (pops up after ext./int. editor)? ; ------------------------------------------------------------------ EDITSAVEMENU Yes EDITSAVEUTIL 1 "C PGP Clearsign" EDITSAVEUTIL 2 "E PGP Encrypt & Sign" EDITSAVEUTIL 5 "S Sharespell" EDITSAVEUTIL 4 "T Run Tagdude" ======================================================================= =======================cut from goldkeys.cfg===================== F11 ExternUtil01 ; Clearsign F12 ExternUtil02 ; Sign & Encrypt ^F11 ExternUtil03 ; Decrypt ================================================================= That's it. Of course the wrapped lines for EXTERNUTIL 1 & 2 need to be put back on one line in your config file. John. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL1oUxA4f7XXjzQ6JAQEEZgP/UHat/LBa43W3Co+H5dFDyNaVkBJvakoG BQSEyMdup3hg+vKW1XwQJuSYz0/KF5lCcayDqnBPhwbPK5rVKRcCd6HvYHsvEtC0 sH4txX4QCsbTBx09nRCz+IG/eUzyHr+zD6e4GZbAGXcuFpwiVQ5pXcXbi1gRoo+h vCAFxeHoQgk= =43Gi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ... Windows? WINDOWS?!? Hahahahahehehehehohohoho... 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: John Roman Area: Public Key Encryption To: Christopher Baker 5 Mar 95 11:55:32 Subject: Re: unauthorized info ga UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 2 Mar 95 03:51pm, Christopher Baker said the following: TW>> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 TW>> --- Maximus 2.01wb CB> something bit your sig delimiters. It's the Max QWK door that does this (I suppose it thinks it's squashing bad tearlines or something). Anytime you see Max and QWK in the same message you can bet on it. John. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL1oW4g4f7XXjzQ6JAQGPeQP8CyUGT2FyUQ5v2Oi9ngmAwPn26lxezCas cJBkZjPJpMA4in/EwlNXUtkM9BaqKVkazX1NdiZGkZ/7dKw2wdciDzSoV6uwrGiE /UpngPiF3damK15RD2qWkiLmXsgR+tF37vvSglC7zYqnwVV5l/CU96W23VECPx3a 2t/cNpy5TuM= =+qmd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ... Sam, Ziggy says there's a 94% chance that Christopher is not real. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: John Roman Area: Public Key Encryption To: Gk Pace 5 Mar 95 11:25:10 Subject: Golded @enc: PGP UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 4 Mar 95, gk pace wrote to John Roman: gp> The purpose of the ENC: flag is to identify the "utility" used, rather gp> than for declaring it to be "encrypted". PGP is the most widely used, gp> but not the "only" utility useable for encryption... or for gp> "clear-signed" messages. OK, that makes sense. I can see how that would be useful if reader authors would use it to automatically process encrypted or digital signature messages. But...I can also see how it could be used to indiscriminately bounce clearsigned or encrypted traffic (not that it can't be done now, this just seems to make it a simple matter of course). gp> You are right - ClearSigned messages are NOT encrypted... but they do gp> require the use of a special utility for verification... the ENC: flag gp> identifies that utility. In that respect I can see a purpose for the kludge. I guess it we'll just have to wait and see how it ends up being used. Thanks for the info. John. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL1oP4w4f7XXjzQ6JAQFb/wP9GIyaShjMGkN/DR3GbTaQ1Z+9mZULMk1t JlWCCUNX2tTQXyh8Sg6ZdxRDQu49tywvT0chJq2h9ShyyvZjeVkNMAM7JHFS6dGr Ldimwl3YbARPkUufwsrPZZyh8MjiJJFGlWcQ7i//X2CsT0LX+eKrh6xtu9+5g+cZ IBrX4qw9bQY= =hPDu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ... U.S. Congress: 536 reasons for term limits. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Scott Mills Area: Public Key Encryption To: Eddie Benson 5 Mar 95 07:02:28 Subject: Quotes as passphrase Pvt UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Friday March 03 1995, Eddie Benson writes to Scott Mills: SM>> For more info you can freq TEMPEST from here. If I have it set up SM>> right that should get you a 21k zip with two text files on tempest. If SM>> you have a problem let me know. EB> I never heard of this program. Do you know a FTP site that I could EB> get it from? The file I have for freq is just a compilation of two files from the cd "The Hacker Chronicles II". I got the cd at MicroCenter so you could probably get it at your local computer store. If not you can call P-80 systems, the producers of the disk, at 304-744-7322. Or call the distributor, Data Express Inc. at 305-572-4848. Or name me a ftp site I could post it to and I'll put it there for you. Scott I either want less corruption, or more chance to participate in it. - Ashleigh Brilliant Scott Mills 1024/26CD5D03 For my PGP key freq PGPKEY sm@f119.n265.z1.fidonet.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL1mpkCP6qSQmzV0DAQE/EgP9EIxmmzs5s+IR1gV2hI0t8FT6CW+ig1Dr P4O/2HPc7y5YGiIXxBfNBLcR2SntCcTML8coXwwi1wjHPYyqw4uqG1J9biyzgw9l FeVpnU2YBHR084M/+KLAr/rQroBvjVGDCYjGWmvstXC+bbwB66iWLHLQ4i/0oEXZ eAwMv0bEvio= =jnQT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Scott Mills Area: Public Key Encryption To: Eddie Benson 5 Mar 95 18:55:20 Subject: Internet mail reader that supports PGP.UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Friday March 03 1995, Eddie Benson writes to All: EB> Does anyone know of a good Mail reader that supports PGP? Golded is very versatile and has built in latches for PGP. It comes in both dos and OS/2 versions. Scott A fate worse than death: To be married alive. Scott Mills 1024/26CD5D03 For my PGP key freq PGPKEY sm@f119.n265.z1.fidonet.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL1pPqSP6qSQmzV0DAQFkqgQAsLIf7uoQ9cuucDuwu8lkUtJmyhUVwU9W x0i7bzGTcbTHzG/VUmeSygmQTEAGLdbenq507m7AuEcC/T7z7DTRNc00bLm9Xg0Y LtdceFXIS2XVW4Erm/t4WBXPO8PG0lV2RDYE5TFPYcVt64EaBZg3e8ZdXh4Qx4YZ TT3TRtz3Nlc= =ic4D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Randy Edwards Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 5 Mar 95 00:48:44 Subject: Re: Fight Scientologist Censorship UpdReq * Original Message Posted via ANEWS * Date: 03 Mar 95 17:24:54 * From: Randy Edwards @ 1:325/805 * To: All * Forwarded by: Christopher Baker @ 1:374/14 * Message text was not edited! @MSGID: 1:325/805 00ec49f1 by Tony Sidaway tony@sidaway.demon.co.uk The Church of Scientology is taking illegal steps to hound its critics, and threatening the internet by its use of forged cancels of USENET posts which it alleges contain violations of its copyright. In recent months, posts detailing serious abuses by Scientologists have been posted to alt.religion.scientology, a newsgroup set up for that purpose. Some posts have been delivered to the net, purporting to describe ludicrous "courses" which the cult is using to gull the susceptible. ************************************************************************* One such course describes a tyrant named Xenu who, 70 million years ago, it is claimed, kidnapped people in spacecraft resembling mid-20th century DC-8 airliners, dropped them in volcanoes and nuked them. An average Scientologist could pay many thousands of dollars, and be subject to months or even years of softening his critical faculties, to prepare him to hear this crap. ************************************************************************* The Scientologists have been issuing illegal forged cancels from netcom accounts. As usual, netcom is doing very little about it. This is stopping some vital information getting through, but some is still making it. Now the Scientologists have obtained warrants and mounted a fishing expedition on one person, and seem set to do the same to at least two more. The information they get from these raids allows them to threaten and silence critics of the cult's many abuses. The scientologists excel in "Dead Agent" tactics--using lies and distortions of the truth to invalidate someone's arguments. In another development, the Scientologists have breached the integrity of the anon.penet.fi server, making the administrator hand over records identifying one of the posters. It is imperative that more people spread the news about this case, and spread the bad news about the cult's evil activities. The freedom of all people is threatened by these abuses. ********************************************************************** Subscribe to alt.religion.scientology. Find out what is happening. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get active. ********************************************************************** *** Netcom users: ask your sys admin why they are not stopping the illegal cancels being issued by the Church of Scientology's tame poodles. *** Day of Protest on March 13th, L Ron Hubbard's Birthday. *** World Wide Web Site http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~sloth/sci/sci_index.html *** Book on the founder of Scientology, L Ron Hubbard. AUTHOR: Miller, Russell. TITLE: Bare-faced messiah : the true story of L. Ron Hubbard / EDITION: 1st American ed. PLACE: New York : PUBLISHER: H. Holt, YEAR: 1988 PUB TYPE: Book FORMAT: x, 390 p., [8] p. of plates : ill. ; 24 cm. NOTES: Includes index. Bibliography: p. [382]-383. ISBN: 0805006540 SUBJECT: Hubbard, L. Ron -- (La Fayette Ron), -- 1911- Scientologists -- Biography. -- Tony Sidaway tony@sidaway.demon.co.uk "The most horrible thing they have done is to put out hundreds of messages all over the net that say "free phone sex", with the scientologists' toll-free phone number on it: 1-800-367-8788" --an211810@anon.penet.fi "Poor little clams - snap! snap! snap!" --SubGenius Pope Charles of Houston @ Origin: Socialism OnLine! * Home of ANEWS * Venceremos! * (1:325/805) @PATH: 325/805 3615/50 374/1 98 14 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Randy Edwards Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 5 Mar 95 00:49:32 Subject: Re: Sup. Ct. Justices Express Concern on Computer PrivacyUpdReq * Original Message Posted via ANEWS * Date: 03 Mar 95 17:24:54 * From: Randy Edwards @ 1:325/805 * To: All * Forwarded by: Christopher Baker @ 1:374/14 * Message text was not edited! @MSGID: 1:325/805 00ec4a5b Reply-To: ACLU Information Supreme Court Justices Express Concern About Computer Privacy; Opinions Suggest Mounting Interest on Nation's Highest Court For IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 1, 1994 A majority of the justices of the U.S. Supreme Court, ruling in a criminal evidence case, today suggested that they had serious concerns about the potential invasion to individual privacy raised by the nation's increasing reliance on computer technology. In a series of opinions in a case from Arizona about whether evidence seized by the police because of a computer error could be used during trial, the justices raised questions about the impact of computers, particularly on law enforcement. "Although we believe the Court ruled incorrectly in deciding that the evidence could be used during trial, I think the majority opinion is quite narrow," said Steven Shapiro, ACLU Legal Director. "The more lasting significance of the case," he added, "may be that a majority of the Court seems quite troubled by the risk that computer technology poses to personal privacy. "In particular," Shapiro said, "a majority of the Court was clearly unwilling to create a new and broad exception to the Exclusionary Rule whenever government officials violate the Fourth Amendment based on a computer error." In his majority opinion for the Court, Chief Justice Rehnquist reversed a decision of the Arizona Supreme Court, which had ruled that the evidence could not be used because it had been seized during what turned out to be an arrest based on a mistaken warrant. Justices O'Connor, Scalia, Kennedy, Souter, Thomas and Breyer joined the Chief Justice's decision. But Justice O'Connor wrote a concurring opinion, which was joined by Justices Souter and Breyer, that discussed the growth of technology and its impact on law enforcement. "In recent years, we have witnessed the advent of powerful, computer-based recordkeeping systems that facilitate arrests in ways that have never before been possible," O'Connor said. "The police, of course, are entitled to enjoy the substantial advantages this technology confers. They may not, however, rely on it blindly. With the benefits of more efficient law enforcement mechanisms comes the burden of corresponding constitutional responsibilities. And in another brief concurring opinion, Justice Souter, who was joined by Justice Breyer, wrote that "our very concept of deterrence by exclusion of evidence should extend to the government as a whole, not merely the police, on the ground that there would otherwise be no reasonable expectation of keeping the number of resulting false arrests within an acceptable minimum limit." Justice Ginsburg, in a dissenting opinion joined by Justice Stevens, wrote that "widespread reliance on computers to store and convey information generates, along with manifold benefits, new possibilities of error, due to both computer malfunctions and operator mistakes." "Most germane to this case, computerization greatly amplifies an error's effect, and correspondingly intensifies the need for prompt correction; for inaccurate data can infect not only one agency, but the many agencies that share access to the database," she wrote. In a particularly "conspicuous example," Justice Ginsburg said that the computerized databases of the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) contain over 23 million records, identifying, among other things, persons and vehicles sought by law enforcement agencies nationwide. "Thus," she wrote, "any mistake entered into the NCIC spreads nationwide in an instant." ### -- ACLU Free Reading Room | American Civil Liberties Union gopher://aclu.org:6601 | 132 W. 43rd Street, NY, NY 10036 mailto:infoaclu@aclu.org| "Eternal vigilance is the ftp://ftp.pipeline.com | price of liberty" @ Origin: Socialism OnLine! * Home of ANEWS * Venceremos! * (1:325/805) @PATH: 325/805 3615/50 374/1 98 14 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 5 Mar 95 22:11:58 Subject: new in PUBKEYS file distribution UpdReq * Original Message Dated: 05 Mar 95 22:11:30 * From: Christopher Baker * To: All * Msg Header modified by: Christopher Baker @ 1:374/14 * Message text was not edited! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- the following was recently hatched into PUBKEYS file area: CP-FAQ.ZIP Cyphernomicon - Cypherpunks/cryptography FAQ by tcmay. 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From: NY Transfer News Collective Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 11:01:45 -0500 (EST) From tomh@cyberzine.org Sat Mar 4 09:54:37 1995 From: WWW Consultation Date: Sat, 4 Mar 95 06:56:21 -0800 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAMPAIGN TO STOP THE US COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT (S. 314/H.R. 1004) PLEASE WIDELY REDISTRIBUTE THIS DOCUMENT WITH THIS BANNER INTACT DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE AFTER MAY 1, 1995 Feb. 22, 1995 [updated Mar. 3 to include House version's bill number] Distributed by the Voters Telecommunications Watch (vtw@vtw.org) and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (ask@eff.org) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [In order to use the net more effectively, the following organizations have joined forces on a single Congressional net campaign to stop the Communications Decency Act, S. 314 & H.R. 1004 (in alphabetical order): the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT), the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), the Electronic Frontier Foundation-Austin (EFF-Austin), (Note that EFF-Austin is not a chapter of the DC-based EFF) the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), the Hands Off! the Net petition drive, the People for the American Way (PFAW), the Society for Electronic Access (SEA), and the Voters Telecommunications Watch (VTW) These organizations are using the Voters Telecommunications Watch (VTW) as a conduit for legislative feedback. When you contact Congress about the Communications Decency Act and send your feedback to vtw@vtw.org, that information is being fed back to all participating organizations. If your organization would like to signon to this campaign and receive legislative feedback, contact vtw@vtw.org. -Shabbir] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTENTS Introduction What you can do Contact Information Background Current status of S. 314 Where can I learn more about the bill? (URL included) Where will I learn about updates to this alert? Current list of participating organizations ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- INTRODUCTION Dear Net Citizens: Legislation has been introduced before the Senate which would severely restrict your freedom of speech, halt the free flow of information on the net, and require all telecommunications carriers to censor your public and private communications. The "Communications Decency Act of 1995" (S. 314), introduced in early February by Senators Exon (D-NE) and Gorton (R-WA), would place substantial criminal liability on telecommunications carriers (including traditional telephone networks, Internet service providers, commercial online services such as America Online and Compuserve, and independent BBS's) whenever their networks are used to transmit any material which is deemed indecent or harassing. In order to avoid these penalties, carriers would be forced to restrict the activities of their subscribers and censor all public and private communications. We must act quickly to stop the progress of S. 314. The bill may soon be incorporated into Senate telecommunications reform legislation, which is currently being drafted by the Senate Commerce Committee. The telecommunications reform bill may be introduced as early as mid March, and is expected to be considered on a fast track. If S. 314 is included in this bill, it will be extremely difficult to change or remove and could pass quickly. We are asking you to join us in urging key members of the Senate to prevent S. 314 from being included in Senate telecommunications reform measures and to hold open, public hearings on the issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHAT YOU CAN DO (IN ONLY FIVE MINUTES) 1. Contact Sen. Larry Pressler (R-SD, Commerce Committee Chairman), Sen. Bob Packwood (R-OR) and Sen. Ernest Hollings (D-SC, ranking member) and urge them to keep S.314 from being incorporated into telecommunications reform legislation. You'll find their addresses, phone numbers, and fax numbers below. Also, if you live in: AK AZ HI KY LA MA ME MO MS MT ND NE NV OR SC SD TX WA WV you should also contact your own Senator from the Commerce committee. Remember, the best and most effective means of influencing a member of Congress is to write a letter in your own words. 2. Write/Fax/Email them a letter or make a phone call. Try to mention as as many of the points below (marked with a *) as you can fit politely into communication. 3. DON'T FORGET TO DROP A NOTE TO VTW@VTW.ORG to tell us who you contacted. We'll tally the results and feed them back to all participating organizations. It's crucial we have this feedback, even if you just got a form letter, or a "thank you" to your phone call. 4. Feel good about yourself. You've just participated in democracy without leaving your seat. 5. (Extra bonus activism) Reproduce this alert with the expiration date and contact information intact to other non-Usenet places. Fax it to your friends, post a copy to your local bulletin board. Please don't spam it to places like rec.pets.cats, but place it in places where people who don't read a lot of Usenet might see it. Non-net connected BBSs are great, as are physical bulletin boards. Please don't post it to email lists or newsgroups not related to politics, as this will annoy people. Most especially, try to reach people in the larger online services, such as America OnLine and Compuserve and the large PC networks, such as Fidonet. When writing a letter or making a phone call, try to include the following points in your message: * S. 314 must not be incorporated into the Senate telecommunications reform bill. * The bill would force communications service providers to limit or remove my access to file archives, discussion forums, and electronic mail. * S. 314 would dramatically restrict the free flow of information through out the online world and limit the free speech and privacy rights of individual users. * Placing criminal liability on communications service providers will force providers to censor the activities of their subscribers. * As a user of interactive communications technologies, I am capable of deciding for myself and for my children what content I wish to receive. The government should not be involved in deciding what kinds of content I may access. * Public hearings must be held to consider possible technological means and policy alternatives to government content restrictions in interactive media. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTACT INFORMATION Here are the Commerce committee members. Please contact Sen. Larry Pressler (the Committee Chairman) and Sen. Ernest Hollings at a minimum. If you see your state listed below, contact your own senator as well. All addresses are Washington, D.C. 20510 P ST Name and Address Phone Fax = == ======================== ============== ============== R SD Pressler, Larry 1-202-224-5842 1-202-224-1259* 243 RSOB larry_pressler@pressler.senate.gov *Note this is the Commerce Committee's fax number D SC Hollings, Ernest F. 1-202-224-6121 1-202-224-4293 125 RSOB R OR Packwood, Robert 1-202-224-5244 1-202-228-3576 259 RSOB D HI Inouye, Daniel K. 1-202-224-3934 1-202-224-6747 722 HSOB R AK Stevens, Ted 1-202-224-3004 1-202-224-1044 522 HSOB D KY Ford, Wendell H. 1-202-224-4343 1-202-224-0046 173A RSOB wendell_ford@ford.senate.gov R AZ McCain, John 1-202-224-2235 1-202-228-2862 111 RSOB D NE Exon, J. J. 1-202-224-4224 1-202-224-5213 528 HSOB R MT Burns, Conrad R. 1-202-224-2644 1-202-224-8594 183 DSOB D WV Rockefeller, John D. 1-202-224-6472 1-202-224-1689 109 HSOB R WA Gorton, Slade 1-202-224-3441 1-202-224-9393 730 HSOB Senator_Gorton@gorton.senate.gov D MA Kerry, John F. 1-202-224-2742 1-202-224-8525 421 RSOB R MS Lott, Trent 1-202-224-6253 1-202-224-2262 487 RSOB D LA Breaux, John B. 1-202-224-4623 1-202-224-2435 516 HSOB R TX Hutchison, Kay Bailey 1-202-224-5922 1-202-224-0776 703 HSOB senator@hutchison.senate.gov D NV Bryan, Richard H. 1-202-224-6244 1-202-224-1867 364 RSOB R ME Snowe, Olympia 1-202-224-5344 1-202-224-6853 176 RSOB D ND Dorgan, Byron L. 1-202-224-2551 1-202-224-1193 713 HSOB R MO Ashcroft, John 1-202-224-6154 1-202-224-7615 170 RSOB ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT STATUS OF S. 314 The bill was introduced on February 1, 1995 by Senators Exon (D-NE) and Gorton (R-WA). It is currently pending before the Senate Commerce Committee (chaired by Senator Pressler (R-SD)). No committee action has been scheduled as of February 21, 1995. It may be included in the Senate telecommunications reform legislation, expected to be introduced by mid-March. A House of Representatives version of the bill has also been introduced --- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718