From: Zorch Frezberg Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 26 Feb 95 03:16:48 Subject: Quotes as passphrase UpdReq In a msg on , Shawn McMahon of 1:19/34 writes to Chris Adams: CA>> Anyway, they do read more than that. It is actually possible CA>> to monitor your CPU, based on the RF it puts off. SM> Source, please. I don't think it is. It's true. I've got the TEMPEST file here, and will put it on hold for you. It's not *easy* to do, but it can be done. *later* Hmmmm..._thought_ I had it... NUTSHELL: You can be monitored by the RF put out by both the CPU and keyboard. MilSpec RF monitor can differentiate between the two frequencies and, at the least, monitor what keystrokes you use on the keyboard...the different key combinations produce a signal that the monitor can translate to anohter computer and retype into a text file. Remember, I went into total immersion after my incident... -zf- -zf- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Bill Brown Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jeff Trowbridge 25 Feb 95 13:13:00 Subject: pgp -ew command.com?? UpdReq Hello Jeff, Friday February 24 1995 17:49, Jeff Trowbridge wrote to Bill Brown: BB>> I can see it now, "There's a bug in PGP. I typed PGP -ew BB>> COMMAND.COM and now my machine won't boot." :) JT> I'm new to pgp, so what would typing that cause? My first answer "should" be RTFM. (Read the fine manual.) Encryption software can be a bit more complex than other varieties, and it's important to know what you are and are not (but THINK you are?) doing. (One thing I WILL recommend learning is "PGP -h" which IS safe to type. Go ahead, give it a try. :) That one can come in handy for reminding you of the syntax of those commands you don't use on a regular basis.) The "e" means Encrypt, and the "w" means Wipe out the original (unencrypted version) from my drive. PGP -ew COMMAND.COM (for DOS users) therefore means "Make sure the operating system can't find itself in the future." BB>> Unfortunately, I suppose I should add, "DON'T try this at home BB>> kiddies." JT> I definately won't. :) I'm glad to hear you didn't. :) I doubt we'd be hearing from you if you had, and I'm glad you're here asking questions. Welcome. Bill Brown 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jay Blair Area: Public Key Encryption To: Christopher Baker 25 Feb 95 01:48:12 Subject: Hello UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6 owHrZChlZmXQ95dctTVGneHCb65MRsamA8wMfbsyw9QX/dwfffIR1y0V2xSr5S2T bNb/fi3Qfczw/VPf446Xl7FX3Ge4sunnkyPfkqoqHR5+v+Khzjs3/oGzS9Gx8+f6 3f769O+YxvHhGZ9HkMFU57k9B674z4iqC+yYMsORMWn9WsbgJJFkK/30/JyU1BQo pZdbnM4ABB6plQrOGUWZxSX5BRmpRYq8XLxcjnnF5alFmXnpCokKQGUK+WkKNkbG Cm6pSQqWpnY6CmlF+bnImhScErOBZEm+gldipYJTTmJmkRXIHF4uBShwyVeIzC9V 8EgsS1UIcA9QMNIz0zNSCMlIzVNwyy9ScAtyDbRXUPBUCM8vzUlR8MnMTlUIyVdw L0pMUnBUcM4vqFRwDHYM4OUC6VAEKcxITFHIy1fITElNBPLKE4sVklIzMvNSFEoy UhVKMnNTi/VA9gPdA6J0dXUV3IHednXRN7YwA9puYqTnbmBmaAp0oZaCf1Fmemae lYK+ra2urS3IVSBHPcxMSQE6LyAnMS+1RAEsFaOgYWhlZG6pb6bJywUA =zku7 -----END PGP MESSAGE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Bell Area: Public Key Encryption To: Richard Dale 25 Feb 95 19:25:00 Subject: PGP NEWS UpdReq -=> Quoting Richard Dale to Jim Bell <=- JB>*You are still attempting to misrepresent my posts as if they were JB>*calling for "threats." RD> You were the one who called for us to write thousands of letters RD> to his home -- a sort of "we know where you live". That's RD> called intimidation. Actually, the term "intimidation" is dependant on the reaction of the person involved. What I suggested might be best described as "friendly persuasion." If a LARGE amount of "friendly persuasion" results in what others have described as "intimidation," who am I to complain? ... Way Too Much is Not Nearly Enough. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Bell Area: Public Key Encryption To: Bruce Bozarth 25 Feb 95 19:29:00 Subject: EFF SUES TO OVERTURN CRYP UpdReq -=> Quoting Bruce Bozarth to All <=- BB> * Original Message Posted via BBSLAW BB> * Date: 22 Feb 95 08:37:34 BB> * From: Bruce Bozarth @ 1:106/6073.27 BB> * To: All BB> EFF SUES TO OVERTURN CRYPTOGRAPHY RESTRICTIONS BB> First Amendment Protects Information about Privacy BB> Technologies BB> February 21, 1995 BB> San Mateo, California BB> In a move aimed at expanding the growth and spread of privacy and BB> security technologies, the Electronic Frontier Foundation is BB> sponsoring a federal lawsuit filed today seeking to bar the government BB> from restricting publication of cryptographic documents and software. BB> EFF argues that the export-control laws, both on their face and as BB> applied to users of cryptographic materials, are unconstitutional. Excellent news! ... Way Too Much is Not Nearly Enough. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Ian Hebert Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jim Bell 26 Feb 95 14:31:10 Subject: Pgp news UpdReq JB> -=> Quoting David Chessler@1:109/459 to Jim Bell <=- [snip] JB> DC> You don't understand still don't understand the difference between JB> DC> effective protest and counterproductive threats. JB> You are still attempting to misrepresent my posts as if they were JB> calling for "threats." JB> DC> What you propose would just make things worse for Zimmermann in the JB> DC> short run and for all of us in the long run. JB> DC> You do not protest to the prosecutor. If you want to protest, you JB> DC> write your congresscritters, the President, and possibly the Attorney JB> DC> General. Mail to them is considered a normal and constitutionally JB> DC> protected "petition" to the government. JB> DC> Any mail to the house of a US Attorney would be investigated as a JB> DC> threat, and would be treated as evidence of a possible conspiracy. JB> They can "investigate" all they want. Writing letters isn't illegal. JB> And it appears that you just wanted to add the part about the JB> "conspiracy" to make your note look good. Gentlemen, this argument is not going anywhere. Why don't you settle on a compromise--write some hard-hitting letters to your Congressmen, outlining your reasons for a desiring a change in the law, and send *copies* of these letters to the prosecutor's office? Ian Hebert London, Ontario, Canada RIME: HOMEBASE (5508) Fido: 1:2401/114 Internet: ian.hebert@homebase.com PGP Key: 1024 / 077A2F7F 1993/02/11 PGP Key Fingerprint: A2 15 DE 22 DA FE D4 DC 0F 17 43 24 1F F2 1E 7B 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Armando Ortiz 26 Feb 95 01:16:18 Subject: Re: Re: unauthorized info gat UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 18 Feb 95, Armando Ortiz was quoted as saying: AO> Be a skeptic, but if there is going to be any legallities involved AO> here, it's the fact that I don't want to be suspect to any AO> government laws for the export of the shell to other countries just AO> because "spies" find it easy to use. the only export restriction is on encryption software. not shells for encryption software. if your program doesn't encrypt, it isn't subject to ITAR restrictions so you've got nothing to worry about. does it encrypt? TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL1ActssQPBL4miT5AQHJqAQAgSQpGtSTvoP/2R4fK7qVWgMfRprk7U6o 1q4sdsWybMeumK9HE5qV0YsEM98MRJr/NCGsrLunOp0she++7aPihUNrYMuVVeTV pB+RAitjZFUFi9pb/lnBIvIOxYzC5qRoHtcn6JGJULfZ61LYpQBw/8pubpy+HCTp mwsMkA6RSnM= =Mj6t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: L P 26 Feb 95 14:56:58 Subject: Re: Something Is Clipping You UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 24 Feb 95, L P was quoted as saying: LP> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- LP> Thanks for the tip. It looks like this was caused by my OLR being LP> in "FidoNet Mode". I took it out of "FidoNet Mode" for this LP> message, and it looks OK now, doesn't it? LP> ...--BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- LP> Version: 2.6.2 LP> ...--END PGP SIGNATURE----- LP> ... LP> VbReader V1.4 unfortunately, no. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL1DdDcsQPBL4miT5AQFxNAP/ZaJTsKuEAGJ3sfmq/PT56oGHG6JxOlfB RCCndg5gKQJW8XugWjv/A8zqpr/2Nnp8ZiCKGlZZn1DyzqyKUswgcPNAVNK/fnK1 U1Kr9vnKZIqdXkkY6IfMNdSeWhL5cw+kEM91uibFmVrzF3BaseDEL0N3vZX1icKd wyqYC7SVeyA= =2Rc9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jeff Trowbridge 26 Feb 95 14:59:32 Subject: Re: secdev12??? UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 24 Feb 95, Jeff Trowbridge was quoted as saying: JT> I came into this thread late, so my question is what kind of JT> program is SECDEV12? here's the opening paragraph from the doc: 1. WHAT IS IT? SecureDevice is a device-driver that will help you keep your private data private. It creates 'extra drives' on your system that are accessible just like normal disk drives, but everything you transfer to the volume will be encrypted using the IDEA encryption algorithm, and when you transfer data from the volume it will be automatically decrypted. The encryption/decryption mechanism is transparant to DOS and other application programs. -30- TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL1DdpssQPBL4miT5AQEeRwP9EPAmbW0UCntfdMn4zC5WBsh/jmgjemkE r7FtNXdzNfHxeF/8p18E+4oMm8P7ga2pQQEZ+ytqgyd1SmZYgKkkBGYCgs4NyI16 KCFS33mQWnzyPSyD2c3Sx6OrCKZ+U6ISRcsTH4JOmCItIN45jQqnBd7z+C9yOwbF +1CIAd4rcXI= =iqsT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: John Bennett Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 26 Feb 95 13:07:00 Subject: PGP Blue with SLMR UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- DID YOU KNOW? ...that PGPBlue works well with Silly Little Mail Reader? Even if you could care less, pass the word on to some of your friends who still use DOS based programs or just like SLMR. Sure, SLMR is an old program, but it's fast and simple. Just point SLMR to PGPBlue when it invokes your text editor. Simple eh? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQBVAwUBL07VMRbJcTHDDRc1AQHkJQH+JAfwAtTMnVI427DKi0a0DvRwshBKCnEs EPFIk7umw8MBbjQowJRnN4SJmz5ZkEDroETwwKe3WV3sGfjhHW0PFw== =OENq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ~~~ PGPBLUE 3.0 * SLMR 2.1a * Call toll free before digging. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Chris Adams Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 26 Feb 95 01:50:02 Subject: Quotes as passphrase UpdReq On (23 Feb 95) Shawn McMahon wrote to Chris Adams... CA> Anyway, they do read more than that. It is actually possible to SM> monitor CA> your CPU, based on the RF it puts off. SM> Source, please. I don't think it is. Ask over in BBSLAW. Some guy there used to do this... ... What do you mean "CONNECT 300"????" 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Chris Adams Area: Public Key Encryption To: Alan Pugh 26 Feb 95 22:07:58 Subject: My key and a story... UpdReq On (24 Feb 95) Alan Pugh wrote to Chris Adams... AP> were you using pgp2.61 (an unofficial version)? it does not contain AP> the bug that stops 2.6.2 from creating 2048-bit keys. i've had it AP> successfully create a 4k-bit key as well. -just playing around with AP> it though. it's _far_ too slow to use on my current computer. CA> What speed? AP> 33mhz 486sx. i recently ran some tests on a 486/100dx and the speed AP> of it was acceptable even on 4k keys. 3k keys only took 20 secs to AP> encrypt messages. it did take a _long_ time to generate the 3 & 4k AP> keys though. This is what I was talking about earlier. The 2048 key was acceptable for your machine (I get much better performance than you on my 386-20. Are you running windows or something? Takes about 10 seconds for a message), and the 4k for a dx100. What about a PPC 110? Or a PPC 620 (Something like 300 SpecFps, 2?? Spec) That's why I was proposing extending it a bit. however, it seems that it has already been done... ... "There's no intelligent life here Scotty -- Beam me up" 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718