From: Gordon Campbell Area: Public Key Encryption To: Alan Pugh 21 Feb 95 09:37:22 Subject: My key and a story... UpdReq On (18 Feb 95) Alan Pugh wrote to Gordon Campbell... AP> were you using pgp2.61 (an unofficial version)? it does not contain AP> the bug that stops 2.6.2 from creating 2048-bit keys. i've had it AP> successfully create a 4k-bit key as well. -just playing around with AP> it though. it's _far_ too slow to use on my current computer. To tell you the truth, I'm not sure which version I was using at the time. I think it may have been 2.61. However, out of four attempts, I only got the 2048 bit key once. I agree with you about slowness, though. An sx-33 simply can't handle a key like that. Now, if I were to buy that parallel processor adapter and a couple of dx2-66s, I'm sure it would be a different matter. ;-) Cheers, .....G ... Raise your IQ -- eat gifted children. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Brad Stiles 22 Feb 95 18:07:32 Subject: Re: Unauthorized Entry UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 20 Feb 95, Brad Stiles was quoted as saying: BS> Armando Ortiz BS> Solortiz Development Teams BS> -+- VFIDO 6.20.00 Gamma Candidate 10 BS> + Origin: Cracking Corner II (1:206/2406) BS> @PATH: 206/2406 2401 3615/50 396/1 280/1 BS> This what you needed? yep. he's on the high side of PCon so i don't understand why none of his msgs since the first one have come here in this Echo. very odd. thanks. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL0vDuMsQPBL4miT5AQFhQAP+L9raPczLETBO8Ab5BEvRx6E+g2KUWIW4 aHzSeXi8VOohagUwHf4HtdmcP+lgJalb7kPXi6aYlamyRwwXVBfyAE3TrZhTX1d8 3Y+iP+Jx9BjYqFOfeoh0Zx7rImNWt4EvB7buTRJWt7buR/u3NULzPAfSqDdjPr6C sSFi+bdKJa8= =C2dt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jim Trudeau 22 Feb 95 18:09:42 Subject: Re: PGPBLUE - Where??? UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 20 Feb 95, Jim Trudeau was quoted as saying: JT> I'd like to download the current copy of PGPBLUE (v3.0 I think...). JT> What BBS's can I get the most up to date version from? here as PGPBLU30.ZIP for DOS or PBLOS230.ZIP for OS/2 by file-request or download [407-383-1372]. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL0vEOcsQPBL4miT5AQHUWwP/flCuDFHWoxuNQISG4bpwU/6nOe4aV5J3 ymyMvKeGuiTCOQdxXC1WRX6iQ52mvhWUPJGSewAzfd9eff36uRey7zn7NhEHk1dX 2chAvYEyScrDZME94rS87dQhNCCf5rdMGo63JeoLTQjnceMEQbFIJCuKpjTYjLNh Qm8cVX9TiiY= =99lb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: David K. M. Klaus 22 Feb 95 18:11:20 Subject: Re: PGP-related filename conventions in FidoNetUpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 20 Feb 95, David K. M. Klaus was quoted as saying: DKMK> What about PGP for the 8-bit Apple II and the Apple IIgs? DKMK> We unreconstructed Apple II users like communications privacy, DKMK> too, y'know. no slight intended. i've not heard of or obtained versions of PGP for those systems. do you have any? i'll be happy to add them to the collection and the list. [grin] TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL0vEnMsQPBL4miT5AQENewQAuvCqLUkcZSpaF/jY3AwNmFA15B8+THqe uQ8/1tFVVRSjsw+0oSMXf4+bP/pu4NuWjTZwTSJ7+yrUwtFZI0w3h/VBRHUxmX8S lhG48/ffAyKw9us7dL3mjJCAkG6LoLhby4EtirpxJ8pNCqrikRv9lnv1EErmV82y XVXIUhj6gTA= =forT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Bill Brown 22 Feb 95 18:12:50 Subject: Re: where are they? UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 20 Feb 95, Bill Brown was quoted as saying: BB> @PATH: 206/2406 2401 3615/50 396/1 270/101 2613/5 BB> There you have it. :) That FIRST message has scrolled off, but BB> here's the most recent message I have from him, complete with kludge BB> lines. thanks. BB> Is my copy different than yours? i never got any except for the first one and those in quoted msgs later. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL0vE9ssQPBL4miT5AQFArgQApI3uqnnVbBe0MqMmJx4yoD2SDMpZ+zbb d0X+dEDMw2ZvvMbTk/PMjKcnAeQ12NU8OYedCwi5BOTOIi8sw0OBwpQYNlB/a+Gz UIFYfu+MaHNjrwJ0WXN0Bk1jtdcYr++8iWqG9HdnJwaQpqddQbr5xBVRkZEMhpsw I9PwHMNrRG8= =x7hw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: L P 22 Feb 95 18:15:44 Subject: something is clipping your delimiter lines [Was: Unauthorized Info Gat -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 20 Feb 95, L P was quoted as saying: LP> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- this one was normal. LP> ...--BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- LP> Version: 2.6.2 LP> ...--END PGP SIGNATURE----- LP> LP> VbReader V1.4 these were not. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBL0vFpMsQPBL4miT5AQHtNgQAoUr5Z3osvJ3rpRt6Cuv5JenkiCz0N1GY UvQg/gEfjdvV9N1XH/JRFSK7jxKFamXjn6uZba3woERjUayHLeQWjEDFem0Rd0Lt MVXFFYHoxZkJ0hoEzc9nv9ya+hrxh/yyYwqv+CLb1Vbz1mK4KV4Z7p0dLZZPt69/ zHggn+W83Tg= =wqpD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jay Blair Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 20 Feb 95 18:23:24 Subject: Hello UpdReq Hello All. Here's My SigNature To Add To All Of Yours... -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6 owHrZChlZmXQ98z6uDVGneHCb65MRsY/vUz/y7ZPmntXjenIXKcpB+4XnNPZ4tWt qZ8bdYdXrqn2TOyLrb9KZKudfqpxiyUcbLxn8XJTkFZ+iKpVZPuesshvUQ/3561b E5e9eFXmttX9G7N3h9rOe23+3dlxi5+yjYXB7ZDWsMI1zUkiyVb66fk5KakpUEov tzidAQg8UisVHHNyFHm5QNArsRJE6erqKrgDlbm66BtbmCkY6ZkY6bkbmBma8nIp aCn4F2WmZ+ZZKejb2ura2iqEZKQquOUXPcxMSUnNUwjIScxLLVEAS8UoaBhaGZlb 6ptp8nIBAA== =wYh4 -----END PGP MESSAGE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Geoff Gowey Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 21 Feb 95 19:25:56 Subject: PGP ver 2.6.2 UpdReq =================== Begin Message Info: =================== Time Written: 19:25 Date Written: Tuesday February 21 1995 Written By: Geoff Gowey at 1:2606/425 ================ End Message Info ================ Can someone please send me the OS/2 ver of PGP ver 2.6.2. I got the dos ver from the MIT site and the source, but I can't get the source to recompiler since GNU Make won't run under OS/2 warp for some reason. Thanks. Geoff Gowey (1:2606/425) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Gordon Campbell 22 Feb 95 23:04:00 Subject: Do you guys think this type of thing is constructive? CommeUpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Gordon Campbell wrote in a message to jason carr: aGC> Well-reasoned and non-threatening though it may be, it GC> probably won't do a heck of a lot of good. Most people who GC> are confused about this sort of thing either aren't willing GC> or able to understand the need/purpose for sigs. I received NetMail from Patty that indicated she understands how pubkey crypto works. She was just being considerate of her (new) co-mod by not taking a firmer position. I'd look for rule change in the next coupla months. jason ... If you hear an onion ring, please answer it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP_ECHO: CypherEcho to the gods... iQCVAwUBL0wz80jhGzlN9lCZAQFtnQP/UdjVUCV30Loqb4i3oJD/BRMWc8T+8CJN doinfqB9zUxGe+yiw0JeZMQDebA3IWJF7vrsEmYP74ekKMZfpvrQpcO9T4S2AD9M BGdm+MGVyobkUY6U20jeHF8oqweewwDaHmtegsopiN+EMWzk8Euzmrym0NzNejR8 ZXvQYlzlgxk= =yzS2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ... Key fingerprint = 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Bill Brown Area: Public Key Encryption To: Mike Ellis 22 Feb 95 17:02:04 Subject: PGPblue UpdReq Hello Mike, Friday February 17 1995 09:32, Mike Ellis wrote to All: ME> If I JUST sing a message and it is altered, can the person ME> receiving the message tell that it has been altered and if ME> so do they need me PublicKey to do it? Any program which uses PGP (including PGPBlue) can only check the validity of a digisig IF the have the public key of the person who signed the message. ME> Also what is the difference between PGP -s and PGP -sa to a text file? Adding the "a" specifies that the output of the command is in ASCII-Aromored (and therefore e-mailable) format, rather than binary. IF you already have this option turned on as you default in CONFIG.TXT, the two command will produce the same results. ME> -+---BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-+--- ME> Version: 2.6 An example: Since *I* do not have your public key, I was unable to verify your signature. Bill Brown 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Bill Brown Area: Public Key Encryption To: Glen Todd 22 Feb 95 17:41:04 Subject: unauthorized info gatheri UpdReq Hello Glen, Monday February 20 1995 14:10, Glen Todd wrote to Jeffrey Bloss: GT> Once PGP makes it across the border (which 2.6.2 did, within hours GT> of release) Haven't all of the recent versions been released OUTSIDE the US? Big Brother has yet to try to argue against IMPORT of encryption software. :) Bill Brown 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Bill Brown Area: Public Key Encryption To: Richard Dale 22 Feb 95 17:27:06 Subject: Can I Freq Pgp? UpdReq Hello Richard, Tuesday February 21 1995 16:05, Richard Dale wrote to Glen Todd: RD> I would say it would be incredibly dangerous to put PGP in the hands RD> of about 90% of the people I've ever met who work with a computer. I can see it now, "There's a bug in PGP. I typed PGP -ew COMMAND.COM and now my machine won't boot." :) Unfortunately, I suppose I should add, "DON'T try this at home kiddies." Bill Brown 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Bell Area: Public Key Encryption To: DAVID CHESSLER 21 Feb 95 15:59:00 Subject: Pgp news UpdReq -=> Quoting David Chessler@1:109/459 to Jim Bell <=- DC> On 02-12-95 (21:03), Jim Bell, in a message to David Chessler about DC> "PGP NEWS", stated the following: > JB>That assumes that the letters are "intimidating." What about a few > >dozen "NICE" letters... mailed to his house? JB> DC> Give up. You're wrong. Dangerously wrong. JB>"Baaaaahh! Baaaaahh!" JB>I love your sheep imitation! DC> You don't understand still don't understand the difference between DC> effective protest and counterproductive threats. You are still attempting to misrepresent my posts as if they were calling for "threats." DC> What you propose would just make things worse for Zimmermann in the DC> short run and for all of us in the long run. DC> You do not protest to the prosecutor. If you want to protest, you DC> write your congresscritters, the President, and possibly the Attorney DC> General. Mail to them is considered a normal and constitutionally DC> protected "petition" to the government. DC> Any mail to the house of a US Attorney would be investigated as a DC> threat, and would be treated as evidence of a possible conspiracy. They can "investigate" all they want. Writing letters isn't illegal. And it appears that you just wanted to add the part about the "conspiracy" to make your note look good. JB> DC> Even "nice" letters to the house would be taken as "we know where >you > DC> live," and as a threat. JB>Well, given that he's a government thug, you may be right that he'd >interpret them in that way. But if that's indeed the case, then we >REALLY NEED to apply as much pressure as we can, and unless the letters >contain actual threatening language, they won't be legally actionable. DC> Bullshit. They don't have to threaten anything. All the law DC> enforcement people have to do is show a conspiracy, and show an implied DC> threat An "implied threat"? Hardy har har! Just exactly how "implied" must it be to be a "threat"? DC> And, as I said, this kind of pressure would push back. They would DC> come down on Zimmermann like a ton of bricks. I see an inconsistency in your comments. On the one hand, you admit that they would interpret letters of any kind as if they were some type of "threat," and yet you are suggesting that they would, in fact, INVITE turning those "threats" into actual attacks by escalating their misbehavior? JB>And, of course, nothing stops us from writing NICE, yet UNSIGNED >letters. DC> That's worse. Those would be treated as threats. "treated as threats"? Tell me, suppose I accused you of threatening me with unjustified prosecution by repeatedly misrepresenting my posts as if they had contained "threats." I would, in fact, be approximately correct with such an assertion. Care to apologize? DC> And do you want to DC> find out how good--or bad--the FBI is at tracing unsigned letters. I would absolutely love to see thousands of unsigned (nice?) letters arrive at his house. The total number of man-days wasted by the FBI in tracing down those letters would serve them right! Whaddaya think they're going to do, charge people with "felony anonymous-nice letter writing"? Hardy har har! JB> JB>Acting like sheeple (you _do_ know what a "sheeple" is, don't >you?!?) > >only encourages the thugs to continue their previous abuse. JB> DC> Cheap threats are worse. JB>Stop misrepresenting my notes. You don't get 'debate points' by lying >about somebody else's statements. DC> You are the one who is talking about "pressure". Do you recall the march on Washington during the Vietnam war? That was "pressure"! But was it illegal? Hell no! So don't continue to try to misrepresent things. It's getting VERY old. DC> There is no way you DC> can pressure a US Attorney, and your talk of sending them to his house, DC> not his office, and not signing them does most definitely move them to DC> the category of cheap threats. Threats you have no way of backing up. I think your behavior is classic "agent provocateur." Such people are sent into organizations to ratchet up legitimate protests, etc, and turn them into illegal activities. One of their techniques is to start talking about illegal acts, or to misrepresent legal acts as if they were illegal or were intended to be illegal, then using the FAILURE of other people to disclaim them at the time as some sort of evidence. You have REPEATEDLY used the term "threat" when I have not, which could easily indicate that you are attempting to make my actions look somehow suspicious. This is CLASSIC FBI "agent provocateur" behavior, and I will have none of it! JB>Let's look very carefully at what you just said. You said militias are >not threatening, but they scare the Feds. Right? Indicating that the >Feds can get VERY nervous even when nobody is doing anything illegal. >Well, if that's the case perhaps we've got to ask WHY. DC> Because they have guns. Armed men and women, organized with DC> commanders, who talk about "tyranny," and when asked for examples, talk DC> about actions by duly sworn law enforcement officers, pursuant to DC> warrants, which they might consider tyranny. Gee, I wonder why! DC> Threats by people with guns are not cheap threats, and are taken DC> seriously. Like I said in my previous paragraph, you keep using the term "threat". Hello, "Agent Provocateur"! I think you've been effectively unmasked. BTW, I'm keeping a copy of this note, encrypted, to ensure that evidence against you exists when you do your "Emad Salem" impression! ... * Learn to laugh at yourself.............WE HAVE! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: David Chessler Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn Mcmahon 22 Feb 95 10:35:00 Subject: Pgp news UpdReq On 02-19-95 (12:22), Shawn Mcmahon, in a message to David Chessler about "PGP NEWS", stated the following: SM> DC> What did they put Al Capone in prison for? Do you remember? SM>Tax evasion, David. That's an actual crime. They had an actual charge. That's right. And they will find a crime or invent one. The tax evasion arose because he did not report income from illegal activities, which would have been self-incrimination. The supreme court has since ruled that in some instances, self-incrimination can be a defense (for example, in the instance of the gambling tax). A parachutist landed in Central Park in New York once. There's no law against it, specifically. He was convicted of violating the sanitary laws (endangering the public health, safety or welfare). -- ___ __ david.chessler@neteast.com d_)--/d chessler@capaccess.org chessler@trinitydc.edu * SLMR 2.1b * E-mail: ->132 1:109/459 david.chessler@neteast.com 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: Chris Adams 23 Feb 95 11:50:30 Subject: Quotes as passphrase UpdReq Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, Chris Adams said this to Shawn McMahon: CA> Anyway, they do read more than that. It is actually possible to monitor CA> your CPU, based on the RF it puts off. Source, please. I don't think it is. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718