From: Jay Banks Area: Public Key Encryption To: John Schofield 26 Apr 95 13:01:00 Subject: Encrypted Messages˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ UpdReq JS>Even though use of PGP is legal, you could have been sued for patent >infrigement. (You could still be sued, if you use a version of PGP prior to >2.5.) There was some doubt, as I recall, whether PKP's patent would stand u >in court. Since they never sued anyone for using PGP, we probably will neve >know. Does anybody know if anybody has ever been arrested for exporting PGP??? TTYL -=JB=- --- * QMPro 1.0 23-8855 * CCITT- Can't Conceive Intelligent Thoughts Today --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 # Origin: The Barn Owl BBS (1:3801/4.0) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Tom Almy Area: Public Key Encryption To: jason carr 26 Apr 95 06:41:12 Subject: Send/rec PGP Msg's UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -=> Quoting jason carr to Tom Almy <=- CF> I've never found an echo strictly for PGP msg's. TA> No reason for one. jc> How so? Seems like it would be a great way for people to practice jc> proper comsec in a casual, low-threat setting. Private, direct email would be better. Why post (for wide distribution) a personal message? Only advantage is to thwart traffic analysis, but I doubt most people using a PGP encryted message echo is really thinking along those lines. jc> Anything that teaches us to think carefully and creatively is jc> justified as an end unto itself. Carefully, perhaps. Creatively, no. This is an area where trying to be creative can cause problems -- most crytpographic ideas are put forward for lengthy public scrutiny. TA> Using PGP is TA> not a game. jc> It is if you do it right. I'd say those that are doing it wrong are treating it like a game. And I've seen plenty of that. It takes a lot of work to follow all the suggestions in the PGP manual. I bet that an overwhelming majority of users: 1. have the private keyring publicly accessible 2. have a poor passphrase 3. trust public keys on PGP_KEYS and on Internet keyservers 4. sign keys where they aren't absolutely sure about the owner (meet them personally and check IDs). The large number of "unofficial", and incompatible, versions is also not taking things seriously. Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBL55NOtmt3ugi2IbhAQHJmQP+JcMGw0FgXorj46L18MDc8jLnKZfgL7Jq 5OfyVUSM8fDxye1KJRBUx7AEioBssdz3Jug7teGk4lusYzM+6YOvwEuuFVrGMHwA 9OutVN9S/rx1LjOCbkTl48IgOLLzZHcMLg1h2zLdF2S/lqc3YGSBSR0NGr9KwjVQ kpyfxpZ0lCw= =vRV4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 # Origin: Bitter Butter Better BBS, Tualatin OR, 503-692-5841 (1:105/290) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Shawn McMahon Area: Public Key Encryption To: jason carr 26 Apr 95 13:06:28 Subject: Re: Send/rec PGP Msg's UpdReq Despite the stern warnings of the tribal elders, jason carr said this to Tom Almy: jc> Anything that teaches us to think carefully and creatively is justified jc> as an end unto itself. That's a demonstrably untrue statement. Plotting and executing the perfect serial murder would teach you to think carefully and creatively, but I doubt anyone in his right mind would say it was "justified as an end unto itself." Although I appreciate (and agree with) your point about PGP usage being an end unto itself for the present, the above justification isn't a true statement. (Now watch as Richard Dale claims I'm comparing PGP usage to serial murder.) --- Sqed/32 0.98/r15029 # Origin: Void Where Prohibited/2 (1:3806/10) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201 From: Andy Hayes Area: Public Key Encryption To: ALL 24 Apr 95 04:12:00 Subject: PGP stuff UpdReq Is there an add-on utilty for OLX (or OLX-td) that will allow me to use PGP with it? Andy |-| Jose (: * QUOTEOLX 2.4 1892898 * * OLX 2.2 TD * This tagline was created from many little letters. --- GEcho 1.00 # Origin: Digital Dungeon - (317) 398-2622 - Fido (1:231/75) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694201