From: Glen Todd Area: Public Key Encryption To: gk pace 23 Dec 94 10:22:00 Subject: Re: A Good Idea! UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- gk pace mumbled indistinctly to Glen Todd something about A Good Idea! --- gp> Easy enough... Address the Fidonet message (header) to uucp at 1:1/31 gp> which is the Fidonet <==> Internet Gateway. Thanks muchly. Will give it a try. Ves thu heil und Gut Jul, // Glen ********************************************************************* * 1:128/203 * High Reaches CyberSchool BBS * 93:9900/12 * * Where the Information Superhighway crosses the Rainbow Bridge * * 74:4001/0 * PGP key 669FE745 - freq PGPKEY * 19:300/400 * ********************************************************************* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLvr5Ox1IzyRmn+dFAQGVZAQAgIoIjdKIY5oi1o2zboOUVlhDHut5x5Vr WlG3UZ/fo7ZGIa4tK5Wp4xqhI9VZn/LhqUUlZhi9NKRN3GevS8+3cGJQRIsGsibN Yqvb/u1lWyNyWwyYWyhM0Pt/EAFy9mg3/dWsLb3x/gRA94TnVTNQqSb0hbrf1cHw lEQqdJOSnGU= =5jKV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ~~~ PGPBLUE 2.5 ... Redundancy: An airbag in Rush Limbaugh's car. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Glen Todd Area: Public Key Encryption To: John Schofield 23 Dec 94 10:23:00 Subject: Re: A Good Idea! UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- John Schofield mumbled indistinctly to Glen Todd something about A Good Idea! --- JS> You can send Internet messages through Fidonet. Send mail with the JS> "TO" field "UUCP", set the Fidonet address to an Internet gateway, and JS> make the first line of the message "To: " followed by the Internet JS> address. Make sure you skip a line, and then start your message. Thanks muchly. Just out of curiousity, what's the reverse path (Internet--->Fido) like? JS> To find an Internet gateway, search for the "GUUCP" flag in the JS> nodelist. Any system with that flag should accept the type of message JS> I described above. The default gateway is 1:1/31, although you should JS> probably use one closer to you. Okay, got it. Thanks. Ves thu heil und Gut Jul, // Glen ********************************************************************* * 1:128/203 * High Reaches CyberSchool BBS * 93:9900/12 * * Where the Information Superhighway crosses the Rainbow Bridge * * 74:4001/0 * PGP key 669FE745 - freq PGPKEY * 19:300/400 * ********************************************************************* ~~~ PGPBLUE 2.5 ... ebius tagline. This is a moebius tagline. This is a mo ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLvr5ah1IzyRmn+dFAQF1rwP+P31iNbki5vJ5DV9LKREBvFJZ27O3Djb9 liT2i1XqH4OBQ/oSFe6ENZrtZkLCT3UzEv0QwsaR60Ea57G/uL8ufDchy49AKpPC c+IJN5KWak+128GS3WpKbwJz4kpSzeHRzahhUDNbFN8XVaBGIivbDbWBMEYgDsco gESrJiFp/xE= =Uiww -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ~~~ PGPBLUE 2.5 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Bell Area: Public Key Encryption To: PRZ@ACM.ORG 23 Dec 94 10:20:00 Subject: Name that phone UpdReq -=> Quoting Prz@acm.org to All <=- Pr> * Original Message Posted via CYPHERPUNKS [lotsa internet routing stuff deleted!] Pr> @Subject: Name that phone Pr> @To: cypherpunks@toad.com (Cypherpunks) Pr> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 19:45:07 -0700 (MST) Pr> Cc: prz@acm.org (Philip Zimmermann), Pr> prz-list@voxbox.norden1.com (alt.security.pgp) Pr> From: Philip Zimmermann Pr> @Reply-To: Philip Zimmermann Pr> @Content-Type: text Pr> @Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Pr> @Precedence: bulk Pr> I'm trying to come up with a name for the secure phone software I'm Pr> planning on releasing. The software would turn any multimedia PC Pr> into a secure phone. Pr> I'm open to suggestions for the name. Some names that have been Pr> suggested: Pr> 1) Voice PGP Pr> 2) Pretty Good Secure Phone (PGSP) Pr> 3) PGP Phone Pr> I like 2 or 3. Does anyone want to suggest other names, or vote for Pr> which of these is better? Send your replies to prz@acm.org, with the Pr> subject line of "Name that phone". The winner will get a free copy. Pr> But then, so will a lot of other people. Could someone please forward this names to Zimmerman for me? I'll try to do it myself, but my ability to do Internet is distinctly limited. My ideas for a good name for a new encrypted telephone system: 1. "Notelephone" ("No-tell-ephone.") or "Notel" for short ("No-tell") (contains an inside joke. A wiretapper might say, "There's notelling what they're saying...) 2. Kryptophone. (Sort of a combination of crypto-phone and Kryponite.) 3. "Nonsaphone" ("No-NSA-phone") Jim Bell, N7IJS. ... The rest of this tagline is encryp*&l#1E0+=|>fcd}85^7@jowxz*7"[=- ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Todd Rourke Area: Public Key Encryption To: Christopher Baker 22 Dec 94 20:34:58 Subject: SecureMail Host Routing system map UpdReq CB> |--- 16 Todd Rourke 1:323/110 CB> | | CB> | |-- 323 Todd Rourke 1:323/110 CB> | |-- 325 Frank Perricone 1:325/611 X |-- 132 Alan Hitchmoth 1:132/209 -TR ... He who laughs best today will also laugh last. - Nietzsche 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Chris Adams Area: Public Key Encryption To: Glen Todd 23 Dec 94 17:15:00 Subject: A Good Idea! UpdReq While saving civilization, Glen said this to the evil Gk: gp> would like to suggest an effective means of protest. As many of us as gp> can write coherent messages should send PGP SIGNED statements of gp> support for Phil Zimmermann to president@whitehouse.gov. gp> This would have several effects: It would show support for freedom of gp> encryption. It would show that people are actually using PGP in their gp> daily lives. And it would put our names on the line; we're giving gp> *proof* that we personally sent those messages. (And for exactly that gp> reason, be sure not to admit to anything illegal or say anything that gp> might be considered a threat of violence.) GT> I like it. My only question would be an address for those of us who GT> don't have direct internet hookups. (Like me -- grin.) Can't we use that Fido<->Internet gateway? Near as I remember, its 1:1/31, and you send messages to UUCP, with the first line being TO: and the address. ... Don't drink and park - accidents cause people. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Grubs, W8GRT Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 24 Dec 94 15:20:04 Subject: A Good Idea! UpdReq > This works for any Internet address. > You can also receive mail from the Internet. Your default address, > assuming you don't make any special arrangements with one of the > gateways, is: > glen.todd@f203.n128.z1.fidonet.org You forgot to warn him that his only response from president@whitehouse.gov will be a b......t robot message. Sincerely, Jim Grubs, W8GRT 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 22 Dec 94 12:55:56 Subject: Re: KEY REVOKE UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- SM> Me, too; that's why I made sure to include that part about Brian not SM> being stupid. This is something that can happen all too easily; but Absolutely. SM> pre-creating a revocation certificate, IMO, creates more security SM> problem than it solves. I haven't reached a decision on this one, yet. SM> A far better solution would be to change your password to something SM> you *CAN'T* forget, backup your key, change your password back, and SM> put that disk somewhere secure. Although some balk at the idea of a SM> safety deposit box, it's my opinion that an adversary who can locate SM> and penetrate your box is in a position to do far worse things to you SM> than steal your PGP key. Or if you're gonna SDBox your backup key, you could skip a step and just put your current pass in the SDBox, huh? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP_ECHO: CypherEcho to the gods... iQCVAwUBLvmvNEjhGzlN9lCZAQE1bgP+NODoSjoZz0iaVWUlket2DvSAFN4/ANwO H4O0gLlp27PU9knmESRr7ZL92tTJuLm+x+uAl+xG06yE9OsaerkVaPTRRxk9ELaj y7+rKMUJRIyow+kFjgFkafuBlRBZXRhaK077eMSNjeTzkOxgI2dNOJLckCsSyGrV r/klkSIjZa0= =NyXL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- jc BlueWave > BW-PGP.BAT < PGP 2.6.2 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Wes Landaker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Lawrence Garvin 24 Dec 94 12:46:04 Subject: legal PGP UpdReq Hello Lawrence! 21 Dec 94 05:21, Lawrence Garvin wrote to Wes Landaker: WL> I see the bug in the Pentium--it's been proved--it's a WL> solid, rational, acknowledged flaw. With PGP, however, the WL> only "flaw" is a whole lot of rumors going around about how WL> "unsafe" it is. :) LG> Here's one to think about. The flaw in the Pentium is a LG> fourth-digit of accuracy mathematical error. LG> Insomuch as PGP keys are a function of the multiplication of LG> prime numbers, -large- prime numbers at that... LG> What are the odds that a Pentium-based system might -incorrectly- LG> cypher or decypher a PGP key due to a mathematical error? I think all the tests run on PGP's primes would probably narrow down the chances, but I suppose it _is_ possible. :) I don't run a Pentium anyway, so I haven't thought much about it. Anyway, if it did happen, I'd suppose that it would just render the key/message/whatever unusable. I doubt it would compromise any data. wjl -- Wes Landaker * [Team OS/2] Fidonet: 1:202/322.0 wjl@dstorm.jd.com Telephone: +1-619-872-4343 wjl@ovro.caltech.edu Address: 2333 Stone Circle * PGP Key C0E9A805 * Bishop, CA 93514 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Grubs, W8GRT Area: Public Key Encryption To: Lawrence Garvin 24 Dec 94 15:17:02 Subject: legal PGP UpdReq > Wes Landaker said in a message to Ian Lin: > WL> I see the bug in the Pentium--it's been proved--it's a At the risk of incurring the wrath of the powers that be, here's a program to check for buggy pentiums (pentia????). Run "pgp pentium.asc" and rename 'pentiuum' to 'pentium.exe.' It only runs under Windows. My new pentium machine tested positive. 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201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: mark lewis Area: Public Key Encryption To: prz@acm.org 24 Dec 94 12:43:12 Subject: Name that phone UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- pa> I'm open to suggestions for the name. Some names that have pa> been suggested: pa> 1) Voice PGP pa> 2) Pretty Good Secure Phone (PGSP) pa> 3) PGP Phone pa> I like 2 or 3. Does anyone want to suggest other names, or pa> vote for which of these is better? Send your replies to pa> prz@acm.org, with the subject line of "Name that phone". pa> The winner will get a free copy. But then, so will a lot of pa> other people. how about PSP -- Pretty Secure Phone -- just like your PGP -=B-) [ also sent direct via internet email ] )\/(ark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUBLvxeA5sj1FW2DCDFAQEIFQP/VaUfErRmrGn+AlCJGYkpMIgvrxeP2ICI +s5OjRoueFuFMe67ScdEtmGOgxod/KvqCiovms27JezbQk7pMTZXFCM6E23DmemS V4ckI87jxQ3QVMrTtj5fd72rNhmhCMPkKQA8o7tUptWAywI/SmIvWlSMXAFH4b5V QiiUHCh4Eg0= =v+rX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- # Origin: (1:3634/12) 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jim Grubs, W8GRT Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jim Bell 24 Dec 94 15:21:04 Subject: Name that phone UpdReq > Could someone please forward this names to Zimmerman for me? I'll try > to do it myself, but my ability to do Internet is distinctly limited. Done. Sincerely, Jim Grubs, W8GRT 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Jeff Trowbridge Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 22 Dec 94 20:44:54 Subject: PGP and PPoint UpdReq I was wondering if anyone here uses PGP along with Ppoint software? I'd like to add a PGP signiture but I am unsure how to do it. Thanks, Jeff 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: jason carr Area: Public Key Encryption To: Shawn McMahon 22 Dec 94 13:22:32 Subject: Re: REVOKE.BAT UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- SM> Ah; stupid me. You deleted it from the pubring in step 3. Potential SM> pitfall there; the user should be warned to answer *NO* when prompted SM> to delete it from his secring, or he's screwed even worse. (Secret I thought that meant SEC as well as Pub, not instead of... Been a few months since I've run a key removal, though... SM> copy PUBRING.PGP %1.BAK SM> PGP -kd %1 SM> PGP -kx %1 REVOCATI.ON SM> copy %1.BAK PUBRING.PGP Looks good. You could even save a step by doing this, I think: copy PUBRING.PGP PUBRING.TMP PGP -kd %1 PUBRING.TMP PGP -KX %1 PUBRING.TMP REVOCATI.ON Either way is good because it keeps an original copy of the PUBRING untouched. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP_ECHO: CypherEcho to the gods... iQCVAwUBLvm1bkjhGzlN9lCZAQHEdQP/Zvh2y9SX783Y270z+ne4jRQn3bUztRhy BdKNuOJMoF/hYlUNONWFZNUunDTIZwpwe18YnDy/uzfUVJ6ELtu8RrEKsLjHOU8Z SK2gQEXla6AdVUZg8Gp5jvKBcoOcGAvsEI1V3CFuzVP+cOfPS3IJFk9VuUMqaYLn paQ4gbmmvss= =dWDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- jc BlueWave > BW-PGP.BAT < PGP 2.6.2 60 97 B2 AE 7D 90 11 2F 05 1C 35 98 E9 B9 83 61 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718