From: Peter Bradie Area: Public Key Encryption To: Jim Grubs, W8grt 1 Nov 94 22:17:00 Subject: Pgp signatures UpdReq -=> Quoting Jim Grubs, W8grt to Peter Bradie <=- JGW> The rationale is that if someone wanted to tamper with your key or JGW> create a phony in your name he would have to replace all the copies on JGW> everybody's keyring. Perhaps I'm missing something, but wouldn't that someone have to replace all the keys that I'd specifically given out? Or tamper with the keys that I have from those I know and trust... ... Karaoke is Japanese for "Tone deaf"... ... Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Peter Bradie Area: Public Key Encryption To: Alan Pugh 1 Nov 94 22:28:00 Subject: Pgp signatures UpdReq -=> Quoting Alan Pugh to Peter Bradie <=- AP> it depends upon how paranoid you are. i collect keys and sprinkle AP> them throughout my keyring. if someone were to have a copy of your AP> public key, it might tell them something about the people you use AP> secure communications with. I guess I'm not *that* paranoid, Alan. My public key wouldn't tell them anything. My public keyring can only be accessed by breaking and entering to access my computer. Anyone who monitors my message traffic knows who I communicate with; secured or otherwise. Of course they might have a hard time determining whether the message is simply encrypted ZIP with a password, rather than encrypted with PGP, through casual observation; ASCII garbage is ASCII garbage.:-) ... After we pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is NOT our friend! ... Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Charles Chapman Area: Public Key Encryption To: Wes Perkhiser 2 Nov 94 22:41:00 Subject: hpack UpdReq * In a message originally to all, Wes Perkhiser said: WP> Looking for a FREQable source for MS-Dos version of HPACK WP> (any version later than 0.78) and/or KEYCVT (to allow the WP> HPACK to use public key encryption). WP> Thanks, WP> Wes WP> * Origin: Perk's 'Puter, Omaha (1:285/1.20@fidonet.org) I uploaded HPACK79A.ZIP to the Sprawal BBS, Fidonet 1:102/903. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Alan Pugh 2 Nov 94 21:11:26 Subject: Re: traffic UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 27 Oct 94, Alan Pugh was quoted as saying: AP> for the past couple of weeks, i've only been getting 4-10 messages AP> per day in this echo. are we missing anything here? with no active debate going on, that's about normal. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrhG08sQPBL4miT5AQGQMQQAoUDtzJZmyNTIg2xlxTpWM30v1qKJl4V9 fcjphOZThYOiBdmHSQMo26FyxtxhTojdMb0g9dSvwYRFWtvnrQw2oYEeWSWInfhF DLaou0/xBMdM9DV+GXO4plsYMCM1tFNxSM1xEeihfWmS3J6B5DlfdhgTAleNt3zT jEMGrdr6wtk= =w8pm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: John Mudge 3 Nov 94 12:48:28 Subject: Re: PGP 2.6.2 Official M.I.T. UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 31 Oct 94, John Mudge was quoted as saying: JM> Are you aware of any Court Rulings defining BBS's as "Press" under JM> the First Amendment? Actually, the entire First Amendment would JM> seem to cover BBS operation! good questions and i have taken the liberty of cross-posting your msg to the BBSLAW Echo where it might have wider audience. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrkib8sQPBL4miT5AQEDTQP+Ogp86dk6yrMIdMZZ1mr4KcEBHjP+v+6E hkO4amBlZPZzuVWJ6l090ZxeOmttUWyyVQvRzKOMOZxDEIPmGeBB8u3GUR6WuiYr A6qoZ09aFGnE0Vg80SZAgtiMwQ2aEspmSytj9s+tSG6Pq03LM/CM0RX4URKJniDy dKU+RPqADzw= =oCkG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Ian Lin 3 Nov 94 12:54:08 Subject: Re: PGP 2.6.2 Official M.I.T UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 01 Nov 94, Ian Lin was quoted as saying: IL> use PGP? I use PGP 2.3a (I refuse to use the MIT versions). I best why? not still nursing that grudge against Phil because he upgraded the software are you? [grin] IL> my key off here so people can check my signatures in the future. please let your key off in PKEY_DROP Echo where it belongs. thanks. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrkjwssQPBL4miT5AQGFpAP/WhNuhqfZB1gsD9PtUrGdxdxxa0qKYNXS EyZtqHjOxnPHNRaM1qwsHUaSc3EPW1PSCYnPiUHVvoFucy+IofLN383F9iQ0zxeb KGFBFFrlxz+l+V0BmhUAFFPJWWEReeHepMHAj/ZzR4Y3Xd87jDK/BfAqe9fS6qz6 3mmV/JxtZCw= =sMLC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Ian Lin 3 Nov 94 12:58:56 Subject: Re: legal PGP UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 01 Nov 94, Ian Lin was quoted as saying: IL> PGP 2.3a is legal outside the U.S.! I'll use that instead. :) Is IL> PGP 2.3a totally illegal now in the U.S.? it is the EXPORT from the U.S. that is 'illegal' unless you possess an ITAR export license. there is no way that the U.S. government can make a program of any kind 'illegal outside the U.S.' that's silly. 2.3a was never 'illegal' in the U.S. either. it MAY have been a copyright infringement but that copyright was NEVER asserted. there is no reason to continue to use 2.3a unless you just want to stay behind the advancing technology. there are also people who refuse to upgrade from ZIP 1.10. go figure. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrkk4ssQPBL4miT5AQFx2AP/bLFNrOr/ln4PjiRgcynB4KG9TOgYWi87 yJfXdPpmm1eYGQ8EgNv6e5vbFREmx3WAY7tSywOgMr1Wu225F2n4vOz8qs3X9nlC TPANtQvfeBQM92kykOzogLdVQlsQ/nEgNjwK7QNol/cZvo87iveQBZld+vwoRZNA z91w12xYVr4= =3o2D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Nolan Lee 3 Nov 94 16:44:12 Subject: Re: hpack UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 02 Nov 94, Nolan Lee was quoted as saying: SM> HPACK79D.ZIP (DOS version.) SM> HPACK79O.ZIP (OS/2 version.) NL> The dos version is, I just grabbed it, thanks. :-) i got both from 1:396/1 and sent a note to the author to ask if the source was also available as it was in 78. the above are available here and so will the source if forthcoming. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrlZr8sQPBL4miT5AQGD5AP/ZdSjx/UV4Vb+BtgMNvmsu1FRN5S0WR8p Kbt+Gobu/JzBZG0tkr3Y18pJIkcc1Uox5H+uFcJbmyroj7qjrzS08qhs1DQG+87H YmX1kpcE5fQ6l4p8PwLcfugRR8up73RP9UwN0ALxzNlg9eGWVxtKS6njMnnhubna wpGCosDpWpU= =9cC9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: John Schofield 3 Nov 94 16:46:04 Subject: Re: GMSG UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 01 Nov 94, John Schofield was quoted as saying: JS> From: GenMsg AutoReturn @ 1:123/456 JS> To: John Doe @ 1:123/456 keeps it from reentering the stream to you. JS> My address (1:102/903) doesn't show up anywhere. Do I have yes it does. your address is at the bottom on the GenMsg tear line. if you bounce Echomail, your Node is on the From: line. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrlaHssQPBL4miT5AQEWUAQAqD5bio7wOWYJ4QowV1TSrSlbBaDPXmDl eTwHJesU7TGMFyrmQLzxMkikm7Fzs9xRekuDMi5N1sUtA2IFK/Z1ZOw7bvY5+gSx B/m4qJQrmuVg8FfoirYkW5crOvc/sgXvzg1mwx43yQJaJOJiIwtyjop+v91dCl9h 4mYo48egeFQ= =EBKu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Dan Mlodecki 3 Nov 94 16:48:18 Subject: Re: legal PGP UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 01 Nov 94, Dan Mlodecki was quoted as saying: DM> -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- DM> Version: 2.3a DM> hIwC8d4fqT/H2B0BBACYKXfXX+HuU3L8SbQ/cjpfsvT71jfcLz+ZX5GhgZUjGz7/ DM> -----END PGP MESSAGE----- if you want to experiment with encryption in the Echo, don't make it user-specific. thanks. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrlapssQPBL4miT5AQEVZQQAkLIg9S2qcGPiQoL9w7sp/9FGMEX4cONf 0po8LxIbTr8/I2XGC6K/sKVXRgKrG+z+/TMf53BNKmJcGH1G27peNjyy/eIEuFOz AWMnkLI6Dsz9ZBq1snYyjxPi5GNMNZePzMZ3cxGJxTz9grbsGB5c+G2NdBuDL3TO qpNR5UfgBoY= =GQKj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Dan Mlodecki 3 Nov 94 16:49:18 Subject: Re: Pub Key.. Just in case I forgot UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 01 Nov 94, Dan Mlodecki was quoted as saying: DM> Just in case I forgot to post it here... DM> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- DM> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- please post keys in the PKEY_DROP Echo. thanks. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrla4MsQPBL4miT5AQFZbwP/bFlp5W1eqn4AJwIR6D1NdelIt+1Mw08U DbpzXNR4P2tN/4+jdNVVygvIen3weDzHyfSXRyiU3na1UUJ1Gan0l/tQdNz8lklb M70UAVuINEqNhmsKenlhYlWy2vVF0NPpT0EQMKQCo30jmCmPM30LEyU71/v9qNCt HwLIXmsY/hI= =RlFf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: Michael Bauser 3 Nov 94 16:52:30 Subject: Re: PUBLIC_KEYS Echo Guidelines - regular repostUpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In a message dated: 02 Nov 94, Michael Bauser was quoted as saying: MB> I'm just kibitzing, as usual. Let me know what you think. good points. thanks. TTFN. Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrlboMsQPBL4miT5AQFGqgP/bOIh7iXrIMPeH8zeZvavP3pQnhvOTx96 OHWBERox0louMyMijTm+wVryPhSP+mg2ONwXO7uNnT41ywta5NuMaTYaOWQfQOB4 dZQEmuy8ELkTZZFiBGBJUrmqDGUnfEdB/zXOityBurC8zGyf/2u1hN1OCZ75Vjn1 BAAqh+DKDnc= =nu5J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Christopher Baker Area: Public Key Encryption To: All 3 Nov 94 17:32:54 Subject: PUBLIC_KEYS Echo Guidelines - edited repostUpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is the PUBLIC_KEYS Echo. The purpose of the Echo is to provide a place to discuss public-keys for data privacy within FidoNet and elsewhere. We also consider electronic signature possibilities using public-keys and discuss data and software encryption and the various schemes and programs that produce them. This is a technical Echo with very few rules. Those very few rules are: 1. Stay on-topic. Topics of keys and encryption and related privacy and electronic signature issues are welcome. Others are not. 2. No politics [except as it relates to privacy issues] and no religion. 3. No personal attacks, slurs or innuendo. Stick to issues not personalities. 4. No Private flagged messages in Echomail! Encrypted traffic using public-keys is permitted for the exercise so long as it is on-topic. Don't send person-specific encrypted traffic. Such specific traffic belongs in direct Netmail. Encrypted traffic should be in the form of ASCII-armored or personal key encrypted messages that can be read by anyone with PGP 2.6+ and your public-key. Include your public-key in a separate message before sending such test messages in case the other end doesn't have it or make them aware of how to get it from your system. If you just want to post your public-key, use PKEY_DROP Echo. 5. Clear-signed messages are not encrypted and may be used freely in this Echo. 6. This Echo may be traveling around the world so try to be concise. Avoid excessive quoting for one-liner responses. 7. Be aware that Echomail is NOT secure. Don't take anything at face value. 8. The posts in this Echo are the sole responsiblity of the poster. If you need verification, use Netmail. 9. The Moderators will deal with off-topic traffic. Don't respond for them. Links to this Echo will only be curtailed when absolutely necessary so please don't make it necessary. [grin] The Moderators are Christopher Baker [KeyID: 1024/F89A24F9 1994/05/18] and GK Pace [KeyID: 1024/EE38FB41 1994/05/14] at 1:374/14 and 1:374/26, respectively. It is Gated into Zone 2 by Jens Mueller at 2:24/24 who sends it on to Harry Bush at 2:51/2. Consult Jens or Harry for Zone 2 feeds. The Echo is gated into Zone 3 by Jackson Harding at 3:800/857. [thanks, guys!] The other Zones are open [hint, hint]. It is recommended that individual, public-keys be made available via Netmail or by file-request with the magic filename: PGPKEY and that the public-key provided for that request by given a distinctive filename using part or all of each provider's name and address. For example, on my system, a file-request of PGPKEY will give BAK37414.ASC to the requesting system. A magic filename of KEYRING will yield extracts from my Public Keyring as BAKPUB14.ASC. This will avoid duplicate overwriting and make it easier to track the keys. Using standard magic filenames will make it easier to find keys and keyrings on different systems. The PGP and Privacy and encryption related files on each system should be maintained with a magic filename for file request. PGPFILES should be set on all participating systems to allow your current related files to be picked up at any time. It is suggested that the actual filename indicate the origin of the list to avoid confusion and overwriting. PGPFILES requested from this system gets the requestor a file called: PGP37414.LST. The contents of this Echo are archived on 1:374/14 as the area is purged. The current past traffic is in the file PUBKEY.ECO. Archives are no longer kept. This Echo is currently available on the Zone 1 Backbone. It has been EListed as of ELIST211. Please feel free to announce this Echo in all Nets and Networks. A companion Echo for the purpose of submitting public-keys only is now available as PKEY_DROP Echo. PKEY_DROP may be obtained via the same channels as PUBLIC_KEYS. NOTE: If you lose your secret-key password [or forget it] or your secret-key in a drive crash [because you failed to back it up on floppy], you cannot issue a revocation certificate. In that case, you should make a general announcement in all related Echos that your old key should be disabled using the PGP disable command [PGP -kd userid] for your userid. That keeps your useless key on their keyrings [so they won't be replaced from other lists who didn't get the word] and permits them to add a new key from you without one interfering with the other. Thanks. TTFN. Christopher Baker & GK Pace Moderators -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP 2.6.2 is LEGAL in Zone 1! So USE it! [grin] iQCVAwUBLrllGssQPBL4miT5AQEV1gP/fvVvONgvfr04aySYLyi4l/peCgDOZ/Ax somYHB1R5NmW1Mjqqbg1xUZWcLCq9n36fnKfgJFq/dsl2IqVdjfWlYZb/b1NBGv2 qbBhNcDIYAy75dMd8d0DbRSrVXWq8wVwVzWaJIrisUrQHfpsgioOXlqS06GXKMhH PDPGu5kMk7g= =p9zE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Marc Stuart Area: Public Key Encryption To: Scott Miller 3 Nov 94 10:13:00 Subject: My new improved key UpdReq -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- * Reply to msg originally in Public Key Drop [FidoNet] SM> DON'T CLEARSIGN YOUR KEY!!! Why not? BTW, if you want to yell, feel free to justify it by explaining yourself. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLrj+H50oU3J5RriBAQEyRwP/TSQCKA4yMJGpNuQdFUrwZNo0/Nsinf7V K4Lz6LVhRYiuXMUUFjO1gggt7pf3eV/oxMzm8QLe0YteOYWR/7g8B0Bd5nWymtkx jSMzxK6Gt5Cne5gBbwPt+zV9MAhN1INR7W/JmjfcK3WTv8OEyvLfDFTryW9AtCp9 Xo5btCS9WWI= =I61z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ~~~ PGPBLUE 3.0 ... Several excuses are always less convincing than one. 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718 From: Glen Todd Area: Public Key Encryption To: Mike Riddle 31 Oct 94 10:09:00 Subject: PGP 2.6.2 Official M.I.T. UpdReq Bright the day, Mike! 29 Oct 94 09:11, Mike Riddle wrote to Jim Bell: MR> Bruce Scheirer(sp?) wrote _Applied Cryptography_ and my understanding is MR> that the book could be exported, but not the disk that contained programs MR> listed in the book. Like, maybe they figure nobody in any other country can type? Wind to thy wings, Glen 201434369420143436942014343694201434369420143436942014343694718